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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:01 #81

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I don't expect to see it in my lifetime save some incredible evolution.
I like to keep dreaming while living the nightmare though.
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That is the point where we often end up clashing.

I recognise and accept that the human species are not ready, willing or able to adopt the attitude and responsibilities you aim for.
Truthfully it would be as realistic to expect a shrimp to evolve into a zebra.

There is little point in becoming frustrated and impatient with the shrimp. Accept it as a shrimp and act accordingly.
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:05 #82

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oioioi wrote:
I don't expect to see it in my lifetime save some incredible evolution.
I like to keep dreaming while living the nightmare though.
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That is the point where we often end up clashing.

I recognise and accept that the human species are not ready, willing or able to adopt the attitude and responsibilities you aim for.
Truthfully it would be as realistic to expect a shrimp to evolve into a zebra.

There is little point in becoming frustrated and impatient with the shrimp. Accept it as a shrimp and act accordingly.

:chuckle:

I plod on regardless but can't erase the thought that there has to be more to life than this and how we could create an environment to try and fulfill our potential.
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:06 #83

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There is no human nature imho as we're primarily creatures of nurture. We adapt to environment. If the environment is fucked up then we're fucked up to cope with it. Simple as.

& the environment we have to adapt to is HARSH. By the law of nature, not by the law of man!

How clear does it have to be spelt out? Reality is dog-eat-dog survival, courtesy of nature, and you me and everyone else is subject to it, like it or not. We are just sophisticated intelligent animals amongst all the rest, the ones that happen to be top predator for now. thats all we are, and to believe otherwise is just arrogant to the nth degree.

This 'civilisation' of ours is veneer-thin, so fragile. & the moment it starts to crumble, we quickly revert to 'savagery' Fact...history says so and the present world today says so too.
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:07 #84

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oioioi wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
oioioi wrote:
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TO who ever,
Will there be any armies then ?
Any police ?
Courts ?
:band:

When is then? If it's when anarchism arrives you've already answered your question.

Oh and ex-squaddies will build the hospitals. :D

Well that's me, Andy and the Apprentice sorted then :killinme:

Seems your argument is just pie in the sky woowoo the same as ICKE...
Weapons....do they just vanish ?
The criminally insane...police themselves I guess
Don't worry about all the rapists and nonces or are you going to terminate them early because of all this great technology ?

Clothes... I want what he is wearing :rofl: The thing is always somebody will want what somebody else has got and will not be prepared to wait for it.

Lets not even bother talking about the religious nuts who will no doubt find some thing against there Gods :spank:

Dont worry about people who are fighting over land in the Sudan, eastern DRC or Palestine, you will make it all happy :pmsl:

I don't expect to see it in my lifetime save some incredible evolution.

I like to keep dreaming while living the nightmare though.

:coffee:

Living a nightmare !!!
Is Greece surrounded by an electric fence then ?

This is what really fucks me off with people in the west sitting on the pc complaining how hard done by they are.
Your free to post your thoughts online
Free to go to the local supermarket and stock up on some grub
Free to fuck off on a plane or catch a boat or train to most locations in the world.
Lets see what shit hole I end up in next. Ill get you a ticket for a visit, then come and complain to the locals about your gripes ;)
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:09 #85

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:

So how do you think technology got where it was today ?
1. The war machine
2. Driven by profit margin to get the best product out there to beat the rivals current technology.
How is technology going to progress if every item they wish for is at a persons disposal for doing fuck all ?
Where is the link to this great project or is it the one I put up ?
FFS people cant even agree on a location and time for a meet up :spank: never mind changing the world.

The only way I foresee change is through a global natural catastrophe or global war eliminating most of the population and it starting afresh :beer:

War was certainly not always the driver of technological advance anymore than profit was.
In fact, you can only take that as given in relatively recent times.

The question is not if technological advance happened but what course it took and which specific areas advanced and which did not.

Also complete annihilation of the human race although 'change' is not exactly the specific kind of change we'd really like to see...unless you're KOTG but I would hope no1 here is that nuts :)

As for meeting up I'm already seeing mikey this weekend :p
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:11 #86

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diamondgeezer wrote:
andyh wrote:
There is no human nature imho as we're primarily creatures of nurture. We adapt to environment. If the environment is fucked up then we're fucked up to cope with it. Simple as.

& the environment we have to adapt to is HARSH. By the law of nature, not by the law of man!

How clear does it have to be spelt out? Reality is dog-eat-dog survival, courtesy of nature, and you me and everyone else is subject to it, like it or not. We are just sophisticated intelligent animals amongst all the rest, the ones that happen to be top predator for now. thats all we are, and to believe otherwise is just arrogant to the nth degree.

This 'civilisation' of ours is veneer-thin, so fragile. & the moment it starts to crumble, we quickly revert to 'savagery' Fact...history says so and the present world today says so too.

Its a choice.
The environment can be just about anything we care to put our minds to.
Any particular reason why it has to remain static? :)
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:11 #87

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
Living a nightmare !!!
Is Greece surrounded by an electric fence then ?

This is what really fucks me off with people in the west sitting on the pc complaining how hard done by they are.
Your free to post your thoughts online
Free to go to the local supermarket and stock up on some grub
Free to fuck off on a plane or catch a boat or train to most locations in the world.
Lets see what shit hole I end up in next. Ill get you a ticket for a visit, then come and complain to the locals about your gripes ;)

Existential/philosophical nightmare not as a result of being in Greece. :roll:

Free as in at no cost?

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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:15 #88

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oioioi wrote:
I plod on regardless but can't erase the thought that there has to be more to life than this and how we could create an environment to try and fulfill our potential.

This is indeed what God gave us a brain for.... :D
To envision first and then construct. :roll:
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:18 #89

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andyh wrote:
oioioi wrote:
I plod on regardless but can't erase the thought that there has to be more to life than this and how we could create an environment to try and fulfill our potential.

This is indeed what God gave us a brain for.... :D
To envision first and then construct. :roll:
..... skewers to stick up the shrimps arses before chucking them on the barbie. :D
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:19 #90

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feather wrote:
andyh wrote:
oioioi wrote:
I plod on regardless but can't erase the thought that there has to be more to life than this and how we could create an environment to try and fulfill our potential.

This is indeed what God gave us a brain for.... :D
To envision first and then construct. :roll:
..... skewers to stick up the shrimps arses before chucking them on the barbie. :D

lol :)
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:20 #91

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andyh wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:

So how do you think technology got where it was today ?
1. The war machine
2. Driven by profit margin to get the best product out there to beat the rivals current technology.
How is technology going to progress if every item they wish for is at a persons disposal for doing fuck all ?
Where is the link to this great project or is it the one I put up ?
FFS people cant even agree on a location and time for a meet up :spank: never mind changing the world.

The only way I foresee change is through a global natural catastrophe or global war eliminating most of the population and it starting afresh :beer:

War was certainly not always the driver of technological advance anymore than profit was.
In fact, you can only take that as given in relatively recent times.

The question is not if technological advance happened but what course it took and which specific areas advanced and which did not.

Also complete annihilation of the human race although 'change' is not exactly the specific kind of change we'd really like to see...unless you're KOTG but I would hope no1 here is that nuts :)

As for meeting up I'm already seeing mikey this weekend :p
Well good luck with that :killinme: Ask him if has tracked me down yet :pop:
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:21 #92

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
andyh wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:

So how do you think technology got where it was today ?
1. The war machine
2. Driven by profit margin to get the best product out there to beat the rivals current technology.
How is technology going to progress if every item they wish for is at a persons disposal for doing fuck all ?
Where is the link to this great project or is it the one I put up ?
FFS people cant even agree on a location and time for a meet up :spank: never mind changing the world.

The only way I foresee change is through a global natural catastrophe or global war eliminating most of the population and it starting afresh :beer:

War was certainly not always the driver of technological advance anymore than profit was.
In fact, you can only take that as given in relatively recent times.

The question is not if technological advance happened but what course it took and which specific areas advanced and which did not.

Also complete annihilation of the human race although 'change' is not exactly the specific kind of change we'd really like to see...unless you're KOTG but I would hope no1 here is that nuts :)

As for meeting up I'm already seeing mikey this weekend :p
Well good luck with that :killinme: Ask him if has tracked me down yet :pop:

He's busy atm trying to track down all the booze I asked for I think :p
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:22 #93

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oioioi wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
Living a nightmare !!!
Is Greece surrounded by an electric fence then ?

This is what really fucks me off with people in the west sitting on the pc complaining how hard done by they are.
Your free to post your thoughts online
Free to go to the local supermarket and stock up on some grub
Free to fuck off on a plane or catch a boat or train to most locations in the world.
Lets see what shit hole I end up in next. Ill get you a ticket for a visit, then come and complain to the locals about your gripes ;)

Existential/philosophical nightmare not as a result of being in Greece. :roll:

Free as in at no cost?

:killinme:

Trapped by your own mind then lol
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:28 #94

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andyh wrote:
diamondgeezer wrote:
andyh wrote:
There is no human nature imho as we're primarily creatures of nurture. We adapt to environment. If the environment is fucked up then we're fucked up to cope with it. Simple as.

& the environment we have to adapt to is HARSH. By the law of nature, not by the law of man!

How clear does it have to be spelt out? Reality is dog-eat-dog survival, courtesy of nature, and you me and everyone else is subject to it, like it or not. We are just sophisticated intelligent animals amongst all the rest, the ones that happen to be top predator for now. thats all we are, and to believe otherwise is just arrogant to the nth degree.

This 'civilisation' of ours is veneer-thin, so fragile. & the moment it starts to crumble, we quickly revert to 'savagery' Fact...history says so and the present world today says so too.

Its a choice.
The environment can be just about anything we care to put our minds to.
Any particular reason why it has to remain static? :)

You are positing a scenario of technology conquering nature....idealistic sci fi for now.

& if technology ever did conquer nature, it wouldn't change human nature would it? Until we have evolved as a species, nothing will change.

Its not the NWO or the 'elite' or the government's fault....its ours. ;)
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I think the shit that has been posted on here today was instigated by DCRI to stop ;my world domination. :mad:
At least Ive got some Hospital builders sorted ;)
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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
oioioi wrote:
entrangermercenary1 wrote:
Living a nightmare !!!
Is Greece surrounded by an electric fence then ?

This is what really fucks me off with people in the west sitting on the pc complaining how hard done by they are.
Your free to post your thoughts online
Free to go to the local supermarket and stock up on some grub
Free to fuck off on a plane or catch a boat or train to most locations in the world.
Lets see what shit hole I end up in next. Ill get you a ticket for a visit, then come and complain to the locals about your gripes ;)

Existential/philosophical nightmare not as a result of being in Greece. :roll:

Free as in at no cost?

:killinme:

Trapped by your own mind then lol

:think:

Quite the opposite.

:facepalm:

Chuck another one on feather!
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The Sad Truth To Why Most People May Not Wake Up! 29 Jan 2013 20:37 #97

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entrangermercenary1 wrote:
This is what really fucks me off with people in the west sitting on the pc complaining how hard done by they are.
Your free to post your thoughts online
Free to go to the local supermarket and stock up on some grub
Free to fuck off on a plane or catch a boat or train to most locations in the world.
Lets see what shit hole I end up in next. Ill get you a ticket for a visit, then come and complain to the locals about your gripes ;)

I'm sure the people I was giving out food parcels to over Christmas would love the opportunity of a ride on a boat or plane.

It's certainly true that in comparative terms in the West there is an overall far higher standard of living than many parts of the world. However, relative inequality engenders an acute perception oif those that exist within one's immediate environment. And somebody living in a grimy Salvation Army hostel in the North West - the kind of people I spend a lot of time around - don't give a fuck about your jaunts abroad.
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diamondgeezer wrote:
andyh wrote:
diamondgeezer wrote:
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There is no human nature imho as we're primarily creatures of nurture. We adapt to environment. If the environment is fucked up then we're fucked up to cope with it. Simple as.

& the environment we have to adapt to is HARSH. By the law of nature, not by the law of man!

How clear does it have to be spelt out? Reality is dog-eat-dog survival, courtesy of nature, and you me and everyone else is subject to it, like it or not. We are just sophisticated intelligent animals amongst all the rest, the ones that happen to be top predator for now. thats all we are, and to believe otherwise is just arrogant to the nth degree.

This 'civilisation' of ours is veneer-thin, so fragile. & the moment it starts to crumble, we quickly revert to 'savagery' Fact...history says so and the present world today says so too.

Its a choice.
The environment can be just about anything we care to put our minds to.
Any particular reason why it has to remain static? :)

You are positing a scenario of technology conquering nature....idealistic sci fi for now.

& if technology ever did conquer nature, it wouldn't change human nature would it? Until we have evolved as a species, nothing will change.

Its not the NWO or the 'elite' or the government's fault....its ours. ;)

You're thinking far too complicated.
A house is changing the environment as is not having a koran or a bible lying around.
Technology can easily do many things right now with stuff we discovered a hell of a long time ago, let alone cutting edge.
Like I said, its a choice isn't it? We don't use certain tech in certain situations because its not profitable to do so is it?

Picture a human being who is born into a world without money and without profit motive. How would they think as adults after growing up in such an environment? The results of such a thought experiment are truly staggering and quite scary for those who would prefer things to remain as they are.
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oioioi wrote:
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Quite the opposite.
:facepalm:
Chuck another one on feather!
Merc, adopt the position son.
You might feel a little prick at first. :D
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There is not one person here who, if faced with a situation where it was either themselves and their family starve to death, or survive by taking someone else's food, would not do so.

And anyone who denies that is deluding themselves.
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