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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:04 #1

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Just watched it and wasn't impressed. I've seen it before and knew I didn't like it, but I couldn't remember why.

It was just like a watered-down/extended version of the first (which was classic, imo). There are also some inaccuracies and plot holes that make me unhappy, like the disappearance and no mention of the eldest daughter from the first film (the actress that played her may have died in real life, but still).

Also, some of the spiritual guff was a bit wanky.

Sequels... :fap:
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:09 #2

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Yeah, the original was one of my favourite films. What's that little psychic woman called - Tangina or something. :D

It's years since I saw the sequel, but I seem to remember not liking it as much as the first. Don't ever bother watching the 3rd - it's very poor indeed - no continuity, and just naff in every way, I thought.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:20 #3

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Yeah, the original was one of my favourite films. What's that little psychic woman called - Tangina or something. :D

It's years since I saw the sequel, but I seem to remember not liking it as much as the first. Don't ever bother watching the 3rd - it's very poor indeed - no continuity, and just naff in every way, I thought.

Is that the one in the tower-block?
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:26 #4

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I think so - it's decades since I saw it. I think it had Tom Skerritt in, & I usually like him, but it was dire.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:28 #5

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Am now watching 'Devil Inside' and it better be good as I paid £4.00 for it.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:31 #6

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What's worse is fucking re-makes - like apparently Poltergeist is being remade now - why?????? The original is fine as it is.

I mean, they're remaking Robocop now - and making him look like a cross between Batman and Judge Dredd for some inexplicable reason -

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What the fuck is that supposed to be?? It's not fucking Robocop that's for sure

They've remade Evil Dead - and from what I know about it it seems they've tacked on some bullshit story and crammed in every horror film cliche of the intervening 30 years down to the sole surviving female lead archetype (which people will probably love as it keeps everything nice and safe), they remade Nightmare on Elm Street (not watched), there was that bullshit Thing prequel that sucked, they've remade Total Recall (not watched)...the list goes on and on - they even remade fucking Fright Night for God's sake.Soon they'll be remaking Teen Wolf and Vamp or something. Can't these people think of anything new??????

I want to make a film where some Hollywood execs find an old abandoned 80s video rental shop in the middle of the woods (just because it has to be the middle of the woods) while searching for long lost films to remake. They awake the spirit of 80s cinema who hunts them down one by one and chokes them to death with 80s film scripts.

And yeah. Poltergeist II wasn't much cop but III makes it look like a masterpiece.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:36 #7

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I agree dogsmilk...

It's not like you can even use the excuse that everything has already been done, because that is bollocks. There are millions of talented writers out there, not to mention all the fantastic stories that haven't even been told yet.

A lot of it is to do with product placement and advertising, imo. There is so much hype already if it's a remake, which is what they're after. The film itself is usually dire and not a patch on the original, but it is an opportunity to flog a load more tat to the next generation, I suppose?

I shall ponder your eighties store in the woods further. This idea pleases me greatly...I think it would make a fantastic script.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:37 #8

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It's like they've run out of new stories, Dogsmilk. I'm with you - I hate it when they remake films that were boody good the first time round.

@ Abs - I was about to slag that film off too, but then realised it's 'The killer inside' I was thinking of. Nasty!
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:39 #9

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I can't wait when Disney goes and remakes the orginal Star Wars trilogy.... :facepalm:
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:41 #10

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Oh and apparently the travesty that would be a Starship Troopers remake might be axed now - here's praying because -
He also said their remake is not going to be anywhere near as violent as the original “Starship Troopers” was.

“The more expensive a film is, the harder it is now to make it that violent,” Jaffe said. “With ‘Recall’ in particular, we made a conscious choice to keep it tonally closer to something like ‘Minority Report.’ It gives the studio, and us as producers, the opportunity to reintroduce it in a new way.”

But don’t throw your hands up in disgust right away. The fact that this new “Starship Troopers” isn’t going to be a straight remake of Verhoeven’s original is a good thing. No one else can make a film like him, so why try? The way Jaffe talks about the remake makes us thing that it could be a visual treat instead of a criticism of our military and political system. Let’s face it, it could be something much worse instead.

www.ifc.com/fix/2012/06/starship-troopers-remake-2

The fact it was a political satire wrapped inside a cheesy, violent action film was the whole point of the film and what made it good you morons

....just needed to get that out of my system...
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 19:51 #11

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Ab Origine wrote:
I agree dogsmilk...

It's not like you can even use the excuse that everything has already been done, because that is bollocks. There are millions of talented writers out there, not to mention all the fantastic stories that haven't even been told yet.

Yeah - just look at European cinema. I mean it was cheesy as fuck and knew it was, but I thought Iron Sky had far more creativity in a B-movie than Hollywood A-list films can manage these days. Troll Hunter owned (so predictably Hollywood want to remake it so people don't have to cope with subtitles). Rare Exports was pretty good too, and very original. I'm thinking Thale looks like it might be a zero budget winner.



And the French have totally cornered the gory horror market. American films might still earn big bucks, but creatively Hollywood is imploding. I thought Killer Joe was good though.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 20:51 #12

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OK...'The Devil Inside' is also officially shit.

Maybe I'm just 'over' films?
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 21:01 #13

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Ab Origine wrote:
OK...'The Devil Inside' is also officially shit.

Maybe I'm just 'over' films?

Good ones seem few & far between. I didn't even rate the latest Batman film. Enjoyed The Hobbit though - ooh, did you watch it - did you get an eyeful of Kili? :gcat:
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 21:04 #14

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Gilly wrote:
Ab Origine wrote:
OK...'The Devil Inside' is also officially shit.

Maybe I'm just 'over' films?

Good ones seem few & far between. I didn't even rate the latest Batman film. Enjoyed The Hobbit though - ooh, did you watch it - did you get an eyeful of Kili? :gcat:

Nah, I've been a bitch about all of them so far though. It's just you speak to so many people who rave about them and that have never read the books.

I'm not being snobby either...I genuinely believe that you miss so much of the 'message' of that story through the films. I don't doubt that they're very entertaining though.

Plus, I already know what Gandalf and Bilbo look like in my head, from the books, much as I love 'Serena' McKellan and all.
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 21:05 #15

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...but I could be wrong. :heart1:
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 21:06 #16

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Serena's a gem. Martin what's is name is good as Bilbo. But you need to look up Kili, Abs. *Nudge nudge*.
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OK...last film of the night is American Evil starring Bradley Cooper. If this is no good then I turn my back on all films made after the nineties for good.

Apparently, it's not a remake, prequel or sequal, and it isn't filmed in that annoying, shakey hand-held camera format that we've all become so used to lately.

Plus, it's got Bradley in it who quite frankly, is just sex.

Fingers crossed!
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Poltergeist II 03 Feb 2013 21:21 #18

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is the 2nd poltergeist the one with the creepy man in the hat?

First time i watched it (the first one) was at a youth club when I was 15/16, went home, made a sandwich in the kitchen, went to the livingroom then went back to kitchen and the 3 kitchen chairs were piled up on top of the table. I was the only one in the house

The house was haunted but , still, that freaked me right out , I cant really watch any horror films now

I remember one from when I was about 8/9 that gave me constant nightmares called 'The Devil rides again'?

I watched saw for the 1st time last year and managed ok with that, I thought it was quite good
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Gilly wrote:
Serena's a gem. Martin what's is name is good as Bilbo. But you need to look up Kili, Abs. *Nudge nudge*.

*Edit* Your above post is right - didn't see it when I posted mine - I'm sure it wasn't there. :conf:

But yes - he's good, isn't he. :good:
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is the 2nd poltergeist the one with the creepy man in the hat?

First time i watched it (the first one) was at a youth club when I was 15/16, went home, made a sandwich in the kitchen, went to the livingroom then went back to kitchen and the 3 kitchen chairs were piled up on top of the table. I was the only one in the house

The house was haunted but , still, that freaked me right out , I cant really watch any horror films now

I remember one from when I was about 8/9 that gave me constant nightmares called 'The Devil rides again'?

I watched saw for the 1st time last year and managed ok with that, I thought it was quite good

Yeah, it was the man with the hat, Dawn.
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