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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 18:09 #21

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Let's say Spain, France, or Italy without having any visible means of support, basically and in other words, can you become a hobo in another country that accepts tourists and be able to stay like a refugee in a way.

Refugee may not be the correct word but excuse my lack of worldliness

As an EU citizen you have the same rights as the rest do. Some brits do take advantage of it.

Unfortunately that isn't the case andy.

A UK citizen cannot just waltz into another EU country and receive benefits such as jobseekers allowance for example....many countries require that you must have previously worked and lived there for a set amount of time before you are eligible.

Citizens of other EU countries can however just waltz into the UK and claim benefits without any such requirements.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 19:24 #22

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
France, Spain and Italy seem more laid back than the UK. They work to live, rather than live to work. You could live a more relaxed life without even adopting the hobo mentality.

It seems to be a lot more about quality of life in other places too...does that make sense? Although we may have mod-cons and everything that may indicate a 'civilized' society over here...I dunno. I'm sure it's the same the world over, but when you go on holiday, other places don't seem as commerialised as "home", to me, anyway. For example, your average city-dweller is entirely dependent on the services of others and usually spends a large portion of their salary on things like utilities and groceries (usually from one of the main traders), or otherwise, just buys tat off the internet.

I don't really know what I'm trying to say and I suppose in part that is due to the fact that I've never actually lived anywhere else. I just know that I hate it here.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 19:42 #23

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Rick wrote:
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Let's say Spain, France, or Italy without having any visible means of support, basically and in other words, can you become a hobo in another country that accepts tourists and be able to stay like a refugee in a way.

Refugee may not be the correct word but excuse my lack of worldliness

As an EU citizen you have the same rights as the rest do. Some brits do take advantage of it.

Do you mean a European citizen and which countries don't honor that free travel may I ask?

Yes an EU citizen can travel to and reside in any EU state he/she chooses. All of the EU states apply just the same.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 19:43 #24

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Although Italy's tempting, because there are Italian men there. :D

:yup:

They would let you stay without a time limit?

Theres no time limit or visa or whatever for EU citizens. They get right of residency.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 19:49 #25

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diamondgeezer wrote:
andyh wrote:
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Let's say Spain, France, or Italy without having any visible means of support, basically and in other words, can you become a hobo in another country that accepts tourists and be able to stay like a refugee in a way.

Refugee may not be the correct word but excuse my lack of worldliness

As an EU citizen you have the same rights as the rest do. Some brits do take advantage of it.

Unfortunately that isn't the case andy.

A UK citizen cannot just waltz into another EU country and receive benefits such as jobseekers allowance for example....many countries require that you must have previously worked and lived there for a set amount of time before you are eligible.

Citizens of other EU countries can however just waltz into the UK and claim benefits without any such requirements.

Where did benefits come into this all of a sudden? :)
I said all EU citizens have the same right of residency is all. Local welfare systems obviously vary. A brit CAN receive some welfare payments in SOME of the EU states, you'll want to investigate it though and look up the various differences.
Ireland for example is no problem at all, they'll issue you with a national insurance number and stuff like child benefit the very few weeks after you're there. The basic jist is to have a job first and show registration for tax et voila, sorted.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 20:56 #26

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andyh wrote:
Where did benefits come into this all of a sudden? :)

Well I see equal rights to receipt of benefits as just that, a right. :)

& to be fair, benefits are relevant to the thread subject, as being able to claim them immediately in a foreign country (or not) can affect a persons ability to make a successful move abroad....indeed it can make all the difference between success and failure in those crucial first few months.
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If your in England can you pack up and move to ..................... 05 Feb 2013 21:06 #27

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AFAIK the core thing to have is just enough NI credits in each country to qualify for benefits, simple as.
If you have half a brain then you get a job or go with enough savings to get kicked off I suppose.
If I can do it, or mikey or oi or whatever then anyone can.
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