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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 02:13 #1

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^I was just watching this part of of UK reality show of police in London.

What is the name of that show? Here in the US we have a similar show called COPS.

For the record I would be all for a gun ban here in the US if our police also did not carry guns.

That's cool that your cops don't carry guns, but is that why violent crime in the UK is so high?

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.......... wrote:
but is that why violent crime in the UK is so high?

Compared to... ? :conf:
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Ab Origine wrote:
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but is that why violent crime in the UK is so high?

Compared to... ? :conf:

Compared to Europe or America.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-...pital-of-Europe.html

The United Kingdom is the violent crime capital of Europe and has one of the highest rates of violence in the world, worse even than America, according to new research.

Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.
The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.
Opposition leaders said the disclosures were a "damning indictment" of the Government's failure to tackle deep-rooted social problems.
The figures combined crime statistics for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 02:50 #4

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OK...

Look at your link, then take a look at this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941...outh-Africa-U-S.html

They are more or less the same copy, right?

One glaring difference though is this which reads from the DM link:
We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'

The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.

But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

And this from your link:
"We're now on our fourth Home Secretary in this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction."

The figures were sourced from Eurostat, the European Commission's database of statistics. They are gathered using official sources in the countries concerned such as the national statistics office, the national prison administration, ministries of the interior or justice, and police.

:dunno:

Just a wee point of interest re the reliability of 'sources' etc. These papers are basically printing the same story - where has this story come from and for what purpose has it been spun in this particular fashion?

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The DM version actually goes on to clarify that unlike other countries, incidences of 'affray' will also fall within these statistics.

It's all a load of bollocks anyway. It could just mean that Brits are slightly more likely to bother reporting crimes than other countries, particularly as most of us have to get written permission from Parliament to have a shit but even then, I'm not sold on the validity of these 'stats'. I'm pretty sure there are slightly more violent places than the UK on this planet right now and the fact that they are so violent probably has a lot to do with the UK too, in fact.

Same as it ever was. :uk:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 02:58 #5

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Good post :cool:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:09 #6

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Guns cannot be uninvented. Someone will always be able to get one. As long as that's a possibility; I want a gun in my home. Besides, there are other ways to murder- even mass murder- and I would rather not have to try a stab someone in self defense. Just me, personally, I am a woman who lives alone and has the build of a victim. I like knowing I have a gun and am a good shot. Just a year or so ago, a man broke into a woman's house, dragging her out if the shower and dragging her into her bedroom to rape her. She had a gun by the bed. :D
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:15 #7

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K-Bone wrote:
Guns cannot be uninvented. Someone will always be able to get one. As long as that's a possibility; I want a gun in my home. Besides, there are other ways to murder- even mass murder- and I would rather not have to try a stab someone in self defense. Just me, personally, I am a woman who lives alone and has the build of a victim. I like knowing I have a gun and am a good shot. Just a year or so ago, a man broke into a woman's house, dragging her out if the shower and dragging her into her bedroom to rape her. She had a gun by the bed. :D

I'd imagine they're also mighty useful in the event of a 'zombie apocolypse'. The majority of Brits will be jabbing at the recently reanimated with cutlery and pinking shears when this does happen, that's only after realising that trying to reason with dead people isn't working, then calling the police only to find nobody is answering, then swearing and throwing tea-bags at them hasn't worked either. That's if we can be roused for long enough from staring at the television to even bother taking evasive action...

Sorry. Went off on a bit of a tangent there. :emb:

Be entertaining for you lot to watch on the telly anyway. :chuckle:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:20 #8

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Considering there's yet another airbourne deadly virus on the go, then you may get your zombie apocolypse pretty soon :coffee:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:22 #9

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Ab Origine wrote:
K-Bone wrote:
Guns cannot be uninvented. Someone will always be able to get one. As long as that's a possibility; I want a gun in my home. Besides, there are other ways to murder- even mass murder- and I would rather not have to try a stab someone in self defense. Just me, personally, I am a woman who lives alone and has the build of a victim. I like knowing I have a gun and am a good shot. Just a year or so ago, a man broke into a woman's house, dragging her out if the shower and dragging her into her bedroom to rape her. She had a gun by the bed. :D

I'd imagine they're also mighty useful in the event of a 'zombie apocolypse'. The majority of Brits will be jabbing at the recently reanimated with cutlery and pinking shears when this does happen, that's only after realising that trying to reason with dead people isn't working, then calling the police only to find nobody is answering, then swearing and throwing tea-bags at them hasn't worked either. That's if we can be roused for long enough from staring at the television to even bother taking evasive action...

Sorry. Went off on a bit of a tangent there. :emb:

Be entertaining for you lot to watch on the telly anyway. :chuckle:

Hey, it could happen! There are zombie ants in nature, you got people gnawing on faces...anything could happen! That is why I want a gun! Protecting yourself against the tyranny of government is one thing but there is also a collapse of government scenerio. Someone will form a militia, someone will have access to guns- criminals, thugs, anarchy! Who knows?

And of course, zombie apocalypse....it could happen... :axe:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:23 #10

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psketti wrote:
Considering there's yet another airbourne deadly virus on the go, then you may get your zombie apocolypse pretty soon :coffee:

:hypo:

I blame that there meteor/asteroid thingy.

And the gays.

Obviously.

I'm off to sharpen the end of my broom. :nervous:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:24 #11

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What part of London was that video in?

What BBC police show was that?

I watched a few louis theorx BBC shows before also
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 03:50 #12

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.......... wrote:
What part of London was that video in?

What BBC police show was that?

I watched a few louis theorx BBC shows before also

I don't watch TV generally so can't tell you the name. 'Police, Camera, Action' or summat? Not sure whereabouts that happened either.

Top-tip for you though: 'BBC' and 'Reality' in the same sentence is a bit of a stretch at the best of times. ;)

I like Louis too.
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 06:57 #13

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Well re the zombie thing, perhaps space slime bacteria could be the harbinger of doom. (Are you reading this, Feather? DOOM :nilly: :D )

“Space” Slime Shows Up in Somerset Following Russian Meteor Crash

The news just broke that a peculiar substance, best described as a weird-looking green slime, was found at the RSPB Ham Wall Nature Reserve in Somerset.

Under usual circumstances, biologists and wildlife researchers would be the only ones to take a special interest in this slime's showing up in said part of England.

However, given the recent meteor crash in Russia, quite a lot of people seem eager to learn more about the jelly-like substance.

This is because, according to several folktales, such slime is no more and no less than astral jelly, a.k.a. space slime, astromyxin or star jelly.

More precisely, rumor has it that such substances come from outer space, hence their only making an appearance following meteor crashes and meteor showers.

Granted, the meteor struck Russia and this slime was found in England, yet those who hold folktales very close at heart are unlikely to back down on their claims on account of such geography-related details.

Sources quote Tony Whitehead, a spokesperson for the RSPB, who made a case of how, “Although we don't know what it actually is, similar substances have been described previously. In records dating back to the 14th Century it's known variously as star jelly, astral jelly or astromyxin.”

“In folklore it is said to be deposited in the wake of meteor showers. Our reserve team will be looking out for the slime over the next few days, but if anyone can offer any explanations we'd be glad to hear,” he went on to add.

By the looks of it, piles of this so-called astral jelly have mostly been found on grass banks, at a considerable distance from the water's edge.

As well as this, most of the piles had a diameter of roughly 4 inches (about 10 centimeters).

Presently, the staff at the RSPB Ham Wall Nature Reserve is waiting for specialists to conduct various tests on this weird-looking jelly-like substance, and maybe even provide them with some answers.

Up until now, it has been suggested that the substance might be nothing more and nothing less than bacteria, fungus or toad innards.


news.softpedia.com/news/Space-Slime-Show...r-Crash-330542.shtml

Astral jelly = get armed up & ready. :nervous:
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 10:06 #14

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The UK police do carry guns, just not on the beat normally is all.
Tasers are ofc becoming the norm.
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but is that why violent crime in the UK is so high?

The brits have always been violent compared to many other nations, its a part of our history.
We were the trained attack dogs of the largest empire the world has ever seen, long before the americans got started ;)
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andyh wrote:
The UK police do carry guns, just not on the beat normally is all.
Tasers are ofc becoming the norm.

Which cops in the UK get to have guns and why do others not have them.

I admire the fact some UK cops don't use guns.
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British police don’t have guns? (BBC UK Police Reality Show in London video) 20 Feb 2013 20:59 #17

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andyh wrote:
The UK police do carry guns, just not on the beat normally is all.
Tasers are ofc becoming the norm.

Which cops in the UK get to have guns and why do others not have them.

I admire the fact some UK cops don't use guns.

Theres a larger proportion of London Met police who are armed, even on the beat in central london, also airport police and at some ferry ports now too.
They have armed police units in each county who are on call for when they respond to certain calls involving weapons etc.

Eventually we will see armed bobbies as the norm, just a question of time really.
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Theres a larger proportion of London Met police who are armed, even on the beat in central london, .

But not the ones in London from the OP video.

Not that anyone should ever be busted for weed but the cop would have never been hurt if they just pulled a gun and said freeze.
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Theres a larger proportion of London Met police who are armed, even on the beat in central london, .

But not the ones in London from the OP video.

Not that anyone should ever be busted for weed but the cop would have never been hurt if they just pulled a gun and said freeze.

I've seen that before it's good footage. The guy puts up a really good fight considering he's handcuffed.
If the cops weren't bothering him about some weed there wouldn't have been a problem.... they're making problems out of nothing.
He'd already admitted to being a dick on his bike so they should have just booked him for that and let him on his way.
Trying to kidnap & assault people for smoking weed is for cunts & the cop got a taste of his own medicine.
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Nothing to learn from that place. :D
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