foonclown wrote:
I don't even know where to begin with that statement. It speak volumes in regards to where the idiot authorities stance is on these things.

What a fucking joke.

psketti wrote:
The "authorities". The police. These are offenders too, in my opinion. They should often stand trial alongside the criminals, as aides and abettors.

People will try to believe the "authorities" will act, even if they have to be pressed. But, eventually, when they realise that these idle, slothful gits won't do anything that costs money or effort, people WILL do it for themselves. One way or another.

psketti wrote:

Yes I feel the same how can sex offenders be monitored if they have served their time on the register Just because they are not on the register anymore does not mean they are not a danger to children. Should be on the sex offenders register for life.

psketti wrote:
AFAIK the LD were key.

I've actually met several sex offenders over the years. But working with that stuff is very specialist so I've never got into what they've done in detail.

I prefer to see it as a continuum. Jimmy Saville appears to have been a knowing, calculating abuser. Perhaps beyond redemption. I wouldn't complain if you dug him up, cut his rotting knackers off and made them into a small leather purse.

Other people I do know have been very successfully rehabilitated. I don't know much about the programmes they use, but I do know they do stuff like teach people techniques to stop themselves when they feel tempted. I think that motivation is the key. You can't really help what you find sexy. It must be awful if you just can't help being attracted to kids. If you're a bit kinky you can't help being a bit kinky, but it isn't going to hurt anyone if it's between consenting adults. Pedos can't do what their desire tells them to without harming someone. And some of them have had disturbed upbringings, maybe been abused themselves. I think we need to give people the chance to deal with it. People need to be able to go to their GP and say look doc, I just can't help fancying kids. Give me bromide if you like, just help me deal with it without fear of persecution. Pedos who are willing to acknowledge they should not act out their desires can and are helped to cope with their feelings.
It is those that choose to be predatory and reject any efforts to help them overcome their sexual urges that I think cross the line and need to be prevented by any form of society.

Additionally, a fair few offenders tend to quite young. I think if you can nip that shit in the bud, there's a reasonable chance of success. It doesn't show the actual manual, but here's the contents page of the programme they use with adolescents to give you an idea. I know of people it has worked with and have not re-offended after some kind of incident (like maybe being caught looking at child porn or inappropriate touching or something) alerted people.
www.aimproject.org.uk/index.php/models_a...idelines/article/36/

There are also other dynamics. For example those who groom teenagers for sexual exploitation tend not to be pedophiles in the sense that they are not attracted to young children. Instead they are seeking to control and manipulate post pubescent individuals for their own ends. I can't see that they're really any better.

The group now has changed its name from nonce watch to CAPS communities against paedophiles. Still less than a month old and nearly 4000 members now. Went to an informal meeting last night and it was packed out.

There was a good talk on institutional paedophile gangs and local news .

www.facebook.com/groups/128921303961491/?notif_t=group_r2j

CAPs against catholic paedophile priests

www.facebook.com/groups/182719818547118/

Manchester group is slowly building
www.facebook.com/groups/619902101372546/


Blackburn
www.facebook.com/groups/490469194335920/