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Don't Trust the Police Thread 17 May 2013 07:49 #1

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Feel free to add to this as inevitable examples of police corruption / lies / brutality / incompetence come up on an almost daily basis.

Exhibit 1:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/...an-rigg-8619815.html
IPCC to re-examine custody death of Sean Rigg

Police officers who used “unsuitable force” to restrain a schizophrenic man who died in custody face further scrutiny after a review criticised the police watchdog for failures in its initial investigation.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) will re-examine whether the five officers involved in the arrest and detention of Sean Rigg, a 40-year-old musician who died shortly after being arrested, five years ago, were guilty of misconduct. Its initial investigation, which found that “officers adhered to policy and good practice”, was criticised for a number of shortfalls in a review published today.

Rigg, who lived in south London, was arrested in 2008 for assaulting a police officer, public disorder and theft of a passport, which turned out to be his own. He died in Brixton Police Station of a cardiac arrest.

The review was set up by the IPCC after an inquest jury ruled that officers had used “unsuitable force” to restrain Rigg and found that the eight minutes he was held down in the prone position “more than minimally” contributed to his death. Officers were accused of lying to the jury to “cover up” their mistakes.
This is an interesting one because the so-called Independent Police Complaints Commission also can't be trusted:

www.london24.com/news/police_watchdog_cr...estigation_1_2198434
An independent review has criticised the way the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) handled an inquiry into the death of a man in custody.

Mr Rigg had been held in a prone position for eight minutes, and had been handcuffed with his hands behind his back from the time he was apprehended. His handcuffs were only removed after he collapsed.

Today an independent report into the IPCC’s handling of the case found the police watchdog had failed to robustly examine all the evidence. It also recommended further investigation into the care given to Mr Rigg when he arrived at Brixton Police Station, and said the IPCC should reexamine whether there was potential misconduct in respect of the actions of the police officers involved in Mr Rigg’s arrest and detention.

The IPCC has accepted the findings in the review, and Mr Rigg’s family has welcomed the report.

Dr Silvia Casale, who put together the independent review with James Lewis QC and Martin Corfe, said: “We found that the IPCC investigation and report concerning the tragic death in custody of Sean Rigg in 2008 should have been more robust, in particular as regards its pursuit of lines of inquiry and critical analysis of the evidence. Our recommendations focus on what can be learnt from that case for future investigations into deaths in custody.

“We welcome in particular the significant changes underway and the developments in the pipeline, in terms of the IPCC’s management of cases and methods of investigating and reporting. These improvements will help the IPCC to fulfil its important and complex mandate: to ensure that the UK meets its obligations to protect the right to life and to prevent deaths in custody.”

The review also criticised the way the IPCC had failed to robustly examine CCTV evidence the amount of time Mr Rigg was restrained in the prone position, and the support the IPCC gave to Mr Rigg’s family.

Mr Rigg’s oldest sister Marcia Rigg, speaking on behalf of the Rigg family said: “My family sincerely welcomes this unprecedented thorough review of the IPCC’s original investigation into the death of our beloved Sean, and the true and honest findings and recommendations of the review.

“We also welcome the IPCC’s acceptance of the failures in its investigation, its wholehearted apologies to us for those failures and its promise to take action on the recommendations, including to re-examine any potential police misconduct.

“It is the family’s strong opinion that possible criminal offences should also be considered afresh and we will be discussing that soon with the Commissioner now overseeing this case, Mary Cunneen.

“It has been a pleasant surprise for us to see that the IPCC accepts the need to put its house in order for the betterment of all future investigations into deaths in police custody. The Rigg family respectfully insist that all such investigations must be robust, fearless, transparent and properly effective. If the review’s recommendations are fully implemented, this can only improve public confidence in the IPCC, which society does need to fulfil its purpose. But the police and the police federation need to sit up and take notice of this Report – they need to put their houses in order rather than obstructing the IPCC in its statutory role.

“Almost five years after Sean’s unnecessary death, my family’s pursuit of justice and our dignified determination to arrive at a truly clear picture of what happened to Sean on August 21 2008, has hopefully contributed to real and positive change into the way the IPCC and all key agencies should fulfil their obligations, by law, into a death in custody so that no other family should ever have to endure the pain, grief and anger we and other families have endured.

“We look forward to seeing the IPCC’s action plan in the coming months and working with Mary Cunneen and Catherine Hall on their review of Sean’s death in the coming weeks and months.”

Dame Anne Owers, chair of the IPCC, said: “The Rigg family has demonstrated determination and dignity over a long period of time. Above all they have been committed to getting answers about the circumstances of Sean’s tragic death. I am conscious that the shortcomings identified in this review, and the length of time it has taken to get to this stage, have added to the distress and grief of the Rigg family and I have apologised to them for this. I hope it will be of some comfort that they have helped shape our work in future and our approach to bereaved families like theirs.

“I would like to thank Dr Casale and her team for the valuable work they have done. Their review has produced telling and important findings which the IPCC has accepted. We are already taking a critical look at the way we investigate deaths in general, and this specific review, and the lessons to be learnt from it, will play an important part in the way that we develop and change our approach.”

Key findings

The independent review made a number of recommendations to the IPCC about procedures in general in cases involving a death. It recommended:

•Independently investigating all deaths in custody at the outset;
•Interviewing officers and staff involved as early as possible with transcripts produced of interviews in which officers’ accounts are probed;
•Ensuring IPCC Commissioners take a proactive role during investigations;
•Taking a multi-disciplinary approach both internally and externally;
•Exploring the use of non-police experts in areas such as mental health, restraint and CCTV;
•Taking a more analytical approach in investigation reports;
•Taking a broader approach in deaths investigations rather than focusing just on criminality or misconduct;
•Providing better support to bereaved families.
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Don't Trust the Police Thread 23 May 2013 09:28 #2

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www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/sweden...tml?utm_hp_ref=world
Gangs of youth angered by the police shooting death of an elderly man in a mainly immigrant neighborhood hurled rocks at police and set cars and buildings on fire in a Stockholm suburb early Monday, forcing the evacuation of an apartment block.

Residents said they had gathered to protest against the shooting death and that police responded by sending in SWAT teams that cordoned off the area.

"I understand that people react like this," said Rami Al-Khamisi from the organization Megafonen, which represents citizens in Stockholm's suburbs.

The organization said police had used excessive violence against the youths and also attacked passers-by with batons and dogs.

Police have launched an internal probe to investigate the shooting death on May 13 of a 69-year-old man in Husby. They say they shot the man in self-defense because he had attacked police with a knife when they broke down the door to an apartment, where he had locked himself up with a woman.

However, Megafonen has criticized police for initially releasing a faulty report saying the man was taken to a hospital. The group said residents had seen his dead body being transported from the scene hours after the shooting in a hearse, which police later admitted was correct.
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Don't Trust the Police Thread 10 Jun 2013 19:54 #3

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Pig shoots and kills protestor in Turkey



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Don't Trust the Police Thread 10 Jun 2013 19:55 #4

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Don't Trust the Police Thread 11 Jun 2013 21:33 #5

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Smeg, who shouldn't be outside of a small cage, including the cow of a judge! :mad:

In front of the tiny daughter too - who displayed heart-warming courage in trying to stand up to the smeg. On top of everything else, the thought of those vermin succeeding in splitting the child from her mum for 2 months makes me seethe with rage.

So fat perv got sacked! I want them all sacked & humiliated, and imprisoned for a long time. Including the cow of a judge.
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Wow!
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It must surely be getting to the point now where people who once had moderate views are having their tolerance eroded. I know I restrained myself when saying I want them behind bars. I don't. I want them deported to Pluto. They're soulless twats, and that they've obtained those positions of respect and authority makes them so very much more despicable and dangerous.
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2 minutes in was enough for me.

Things like that make my fists itch. :(
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That's just absolutely horrendous to watch. WTF was the judge doing? I can't believe my eyes sometimes.
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Can't watch the vid, what occurred please?
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Is don't trust the Police, the Corporation or the individual :pop:
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Can't watch the vid, what occurred please?
A very obese police officer saw an opportunity to grope an attractive woman without a witness. She was only in court due to a divorce case, it was according to the video a two-minute technicality. She complained about her treatment, so the police officer who'd groped her threatened her with arrest. There was a marshal present who did nothing. The officer went on to say that the only way she could avoid arrest would be by withdrawing her statement. She refused to do so. So they arrested her. Meanwhile, the female judge who was present did nothing and even distracted her very young child from what was going on. Then her child came over and said "don't take my momma away". They did take her away, they put her in prison. She then made a complaint and essentially it was completely ignored and wasn't passed through the correct channels. But since then the video has possibly come to light and the police officer has been fired, but he's suing for wrongful dismissal. The judge has received no punishment or penalty.
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You are annoying me!

4 years in prison for you.
" Section 1. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 240.33 to
read as follows:

S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER.
A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM
A PERSON WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE SUBJECTS
SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.
AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER IS A CLASS
E FELONY.
S 2. This act shall take effect on the first of November next succeed-
ing the date on which it shall have become a law.

open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2402-2013
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Yes I read about that recently, Humanspirit. It's so ab.so.lutely incredible that I read it twice, thinking I must have misread it the first time round. But I didn't - it will be illegal to annoy a police officer.
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"Speaking as a fascist pig these people exercising their democratic right to protest don't half annoy me!"

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humanspirit wrote:
You are annoying me!

4 years in prison for you.
" Section 1. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 240.33 to
read as follows:

S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER.
A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM
A PERSON WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE SUBJECTS
SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.
AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER IS A CLASS
E FELONY.
S 2. This act shall take effect on the first of November next succeed-
ing the date on which it shall have become a law.

open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2402-2013


Wow and a massive WTF!
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The more I think about that, the more dangerous the reality of such a law becomes.


If people think they have problems at the moment regarding the pigs and all they stand for, it's about to get a whole lot more shit and real quick when that goes through.
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What abot the mob,anyone up for starting a do not trust the mob thread...

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The mob, I'm going to safely assume, will likely decrease in numbers quite dramatically if 'annoying a pig' becomes an arrestable offence given that 'annoying a pig' could cover such a vast amount of possibilities.
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