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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 08 Aug 2013 23:40 #21

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Dubs this is fucking awful mate, my gob is smacked. :(
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 09 Aug 2013 06:20 #22

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Somebody should have shown them the door, figuratively speaking, and booted their arses through it.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 09 Aug 2013 07:39 #23

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We did try Gilly. We ended the evening early as a result of their actions. Getting them out the door however proved rather hard.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 09 Aug 2013 21:36 #24

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I might be a bit thick here....but why weren't the police and RSPCA called? At the very least citizens arrests made, you couldn't have held me back if I had been there. Given this was a booking/hire they can be found.
Meh...what do I know.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 09 Aug 2013 22:20 #25

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angelchemuel wrote:
I might be a bit thick here....but why weren't the police and RSPCA called? At the very least citizens arrests made, you couldn't have held me back if I had been there. Given this was a booking/hire they can be found.
Meh...what do I know.
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That's a good question Jane, maybe charges have already been pressed.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 00:03 #26

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Excuse my bluntness Jane and the twat but get real. You try proving which one of 300 pretty much identical looking people (yes I do mean that) strangled a rabbit or whipped a pony! Do you think the staff here were standing around watching them do it? Frankly the suggestion is ruddy offensive.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 00:08 #27

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I remember having to wash dishes for about 300 cops at christmas for £2 an hour and then 2 of the pricks pulled me over on my way home cos I was the only car on the road at that time of night and they bollocked me for not having an up to date tax disc.

Needless to say the pair of them had all 4 tyres on their cars slashed the following week, I reckon it cost them about as much as me each.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 00:11 #28

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andyh wrote:
I remember having to wash dishes for about 300 cops at christmas for £2 an hour and then 2 of the pricks pulled me over on my way home cos I was the only car on the road at that time of night and they bollocked me for not having an up to date tax disc.

Needless to say the pair of them had all 4 tyres on their cars slashed the following week, I reckon it cost them about as much as me each.

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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 00:21 #29

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Remind me not to cross you Andy eh ;)
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 00:25 #30

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Remind me not to cross you Andy eh ;)

lol, if the bastards had only caught me any other time, but not that night, it was really obvious they were just being cunts for the sakes of it.
It was costing me £10 a day to drive to college in petrol to do a bloody city+guilds in car mechanics.
I should've loosened the brake pipes :p
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 11:13 #31

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Excuse my bluntness Jane and the twat but get real. You try proving which one of 300 pretty much identical looking people (yes I do mean that) strangled a rabbit or whipped a pony! Do you think the staff here were standing around watching them do it? Frankly the suggestion is ruddy offensive.

I was only asking a question. So no, I wont excuse your bluntness. But I'm glad you're offended.
The women got worse, one was even kicked in the head.
So, what about this woman? She didn't see who did it? Oh, maybe it was 'one of her own' was it, not a member of staff that got kicked? You cited about half a dozen incidents and said in your OP there was much more. It's called nipping things in the bud......bud. The police aside, the RSPCA have quite a lot of power within the law now.

Doing something is better than doing nowt. How much nicer it would have been if you could have come on here and told us this story, but how something was done about it. Instead, we now have 300 lunatics out there probably booking their next 'private function' only to do the same again. At the very least some publicity about this appalling event would have put other places on alert to this nasty, racist group of people.
When in Rome and all that. Semitism aside, laws were broken, end of. So, after much hullabaloo you managed to get them back on their coaches....how very, very brave of the people you work for. You all stand guilty of not reporting crimes.

I'm off to have my second brew.......
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 10 Aug 2013 19:36 #32

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I suggest you have something a tad stronger than a brew Jane tbh. You've now gone from being offensive to ridiculously offensive.

I've nothing more to say to you on the subject. Well I do but I won't cos it isn't worth it.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 00:16 #33

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“Jewish law requires that animals be treated with consideration, kindness and respect. The Bible (Torah) is the first systematic legislation prohibiting cruelty to animals and mandating their humane treatment. These laws are binding on Jews today.”
—from Chabad Lubavitch

"We must emulate G-d’s ways. Concerning G-d it is written, ‘And His mercy is upon all His creatures’; so we, too, show our mercy to animals.”
—from Chabad Lubavitz, Aryeh Citron,

“We should be cognizant of [G-d’s] providence over both man and beast. He watches over all species and permits them to endure and we should not take His handiwork for granted. We should be aware of the things He has given us and not wantonly slaughter his creatures with reckless abandon. Being aware of such things helps us to cultivate the trait of mercy and avoid becoming cruel, even when we slaughter animals for food.”
—from Orthodox Union

www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/faith/orthodox_judaism.pdf

So their religion, if they had followed it, would have stopped them from acting this way.

They are just shitbags.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 08:41 #34

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I take it this was in sunny conrwall ? :lumi:
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 08:58 #35

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You raise a good point mikey, shitbags indeed! So if it isn't a book that makes them think this stuff is ok, you have to wonder wtf does make a whole swathe of people act in such a way. If it were psycho 'elders' you'd have to wonder why the others can't read the books and challenge them innit.

Yes merc it happened in cornwall but this group was down on holiday from up country.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 09:36 #36

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Yes merc it happened in cornwall but this group was down on holiday from up country.

Gateshead? Whitefield/Prestwich? :chin:
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 09:43 #37

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Horse whip the sons a bitches, cattle prod, anything will do give em no quarter some bastards deserve no mercy , or none shown
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 10:40 #38

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I don't know if they all come from one area or just gather for their hols mikey. Your guess is as good as mine.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 11:21 #39

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For Haredi Orthodox (largest group of Orthodox in the UK and about 20% of all people in the UK that are Jewish) the two main centres in the North of England are the ones I mentioned above.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi#Gender_separation
It might explain to some extent the xenophobia as Haredi Judaism does have its elements of extremism and not all of their tenants are compatible with modern notions of liberal humanism.

Segregation based on religion, ethnicity and gender spring to mind.

I think in its most conservative form, it plays the equivalent part within Judaism as say Fundamentalist Christians or Wahhabi Muslims do but one might also see parallels with the practices of Amish or the Presbyterian/United Reformed Church.

As for the animal cruelty, those are just psychos and they unfortunately get everywhere.
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Groups of folk that really don't help themselves...or others. 11 Aug 2013 12:25 #40

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Segregation was central with these folk. Not only from outsiders but also boys and girls within the group. So you may be right there mikey.
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