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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 17:37 #1

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Just had a free newspaper thing through my door.
From the SNP ....It's called YES

Full of interesting facts as to why Scots should vote yes next year for Scottish Independence

I'm a yes voter anyway however there are a few facts contained within I think will give No voters food for thought

Fist off Alex Salmond SNP Independent Scotland will abolish the bedroom tax

So we will have no bedroom tax coupled with the existing free prescriptions, no tuition fees, the NHS is different and better, our education system is better

And Trident will be scrapped

Also we would be (as an independent Scotland) the 8th richest country of the worlds advanced economies , so not to shabby

Scotland holds 25% of Europes offshore tidal and wind energy and more in north sea gas/oil

Small countries preform better

I know NWO it's all bollocks blah blah blah but I believe an Independent Scotland will be better for myself and family

I'm voting YES

does anyone think Scottish Independence is a bad idea?
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 17:41 #2

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I know nothing of independence but I agree...mosts Scots I have had the pleasure of meeting most certainly do have what it takes.

And then some.

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 17:48 #3

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Are you insinuating we are drama queens?
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 17:58 #4

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Erm...no. :umm:
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 17:58 #5

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The amount of column inches the 'Yes' argument seems to be getting it would appear not only the Scottish want Scottish independence. :think:
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 18:02 #6

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Oioioi there is a massive NO campaign going on here at the moment

Independence is not being supported at all in our traditional media sources?

Is the yes vote getting bigger coverage outwith Scotland?
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 18:08 #7

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It may just be the 'sources' I'm used to but I get the impression there's little coverage of the 'No' side :dunno:
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 18:15 #8

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That's interesting as a lot of what I'm seeing is biased towards the No vote

This covers STV, Scotland on Sunday, Edinburgh Evening News, The Scotsman etc, and the Scottish newsnight programme (cant remember it's name)

If you had a vote oioioi what would you vote and why?
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 18:29 #9

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Me?

Vote?

Have you been paying zero attention all these years?
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 19:29 #10

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 19:49 #11

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I just fail to see what difference it makes, you're replacing one govt with another one and thats about it basically.
You can expect the same empty promises from scottish politicians as you'll get from the brits. In fact, whatever the brits do the scots will do too a while afterwards, they do the same in ireland.

If you really wanted an independent scotland then you'd take all the bankers, politicians, lawyers and other such scum and machine gun the lot in the street. Otherwise all you'll have is the exact same stuff going on with a different brand on it.
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 19:57 #12

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andyh wrote:
I just fail to see what difference it makes, you're replacing one govt with another one and thats about it basically.
You can expect the same empty promises from scottish politicians as you'll get from the brits. In fact, whatever the brits do the scots will do too a while afterwards, they do the same in ireland.

If you really wanted an independent scotland then you'd take all the bankers, politicians, lawyers and other such scum and machine gun the lot in the street. Otherwise all you'll have is the exact same stuff going on with a different brand on it.


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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 20:04 #13

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andyh wrote:
I just fail to see what difference it makes, you're replacing one govt with another one and thats about it basically.
You can expect the same empty promises from scottish politicians as you'll get from the brits. In fact, whatever the brits do the scots will do too a while afterwards, they do the same in ireland.

If you really wanted an independent scotland then you'd take all the bankers, politicians, lawyers and other such scum and machine gun the lot in the street. Otherwise all you'll have is the exact same stuff going on with a different brand on it.

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 20:09 #14

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 20:10 #15

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Shall I lock it?

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 20:36 #16

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How big did you say your bollocks where again? :psketti:
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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 24 Sep 2013 23:01 #17

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 25 Sep 2013 00:15 #18

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Free doom?

Where do I vote?

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 25 Sep 2013 09:44 #19

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For what my view's worth, Scotland historically has always been a nation of 'divided loyalties' shall we say. Those of your William Wallace ilk who I regard as the true Scots, and then the other 50% who tend to 'chum it up' with whoever will line their pockets best from Royalists, to the French, the Spanish and now at this time the English. My biggest concern is that Scotland is being given this last ditch attempt at its own governance which unless the Scots sort out the narrow minded, arse licking, yellow bellied amongst them, will lose this life changing vote and for ever more be told to "put up and shut up".
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I just fail to see what difference it makes, you're replacing one govt with another one and thats about it basically.
You can expect the same empty promises from scottish politicians as you'll get from the brits. In fact, whatever the brits do the scots will do too a while afterwards, they do the same in ireland.

If you really wanted an independent scotland then you'd take all the bankers, politicians, lawyers and other such scum and machine gun the lot in the street. Otherwise all you'll have is the exact same stuff going on with a different brand on it.

I disagree with what you say Andy, because lets just say Scotland does get its independence.....then that would be the first step towards change if they chose to change their system would it not? May I ask, if you were afforded the opportunity to "machine gun the bankers, politicians, lawyers and other such scum" (please clarify who these are), then what, how and who would you replace them with given that your policy of 'mass clearance' rather reeks of dictatorship?

I also see flaws in your first statement. The Scots along with the Welsh, through their own parliaments, have indeed introduced such things as free prescriptions and free higher education. And please don't come back and say 'the Brit tax payer funds that'. My understanding is they don't. The division of the money is worked out by central government (the Brits) per head from the tax revenue which is dispersed per capita head, between the Celts and Brits, The Celts then decide which way they want to disperse the money from the central tax collector...the Brit......it's just the Brit that decides to spend it on overseas conflicts and the ilk.

My final conclusion is that Scotland will not get its independence by the very narrowest of margins, and it will be enough for the 'Brits' to keep themselves and their appointed lackeys in place for ever more constantly lining their own pockets whilst keeping the rest of us in servitude and serfdom.

So yes, I would like to see Scotland get their independence, there is a better chance of a change in the system if they do because it will remain the same old same old if they don't...... for everyone.

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We've got what it takes, say most Scots 25 Sep 2013 10:55 #20

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The Celts then decide which way they want to disperse the money from the central tax collector...the Brit......it's just the Brit that decides to spend it on overseas conflicts and the ilk.

I'm quite sure Andy can answer for himself but...this is kind of what I got from his earlier statement: It is not, in fact, 'the Brits' that decide to spend money on oversease conflicts and never really has been. It is those in power.

The way I view our parliamentary system in very simple terms is that we have the 'commons', supposedly representing us 'commoners' (though in truth, I believe it rarely has) and then we have the 'Lords', representing the interests of the very wealthy, read corporations. Even if the commons comes up with something marginally useful for the people it is supposed to represent it can be and very often is vetoed entirely by the lords, unless it might benefit their own interests or possibly placate some other party. I believe the US have a similar 'safefuard' in place.

Hence, I don't bother voting anymore. The whole thing is farcicle. You are never really voting for anything but more of the same while our elected representatives are playing ball in this field as the game is well and truly rigged. In truth, I believe there to be a layer of government in existence that few of us are even aware of, including many of those in parliament. These are the people that run the country, nay, the world and have done so for a very long time. Although I don't really understand the reasons behind the recent calls for independence (perhaps Andy can elucidate here a little) my default view is that it stinks and something rotten is afoot, if only because our own governent would never let such a thing occur unless it was in their own interests to do so, as others have already pointed out.

I believe this pov also now makes me a terrorist. :umm:
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