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The truth about the BBC 28 Sep 2013 22:27 #1

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Ok, here's a thread in which to post the truth about the BBC. Have fun :)

I'll go first with a C+P of the bit I added in this thread: sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/todays-news/9216...t-ceiling-again.html

When my beloved football club, Pompey suffered the indignation of being the first Premier League team to go bust and get a 10 point deduction, I wanted to know how it happened. This was the catalyst for my own personal awakening into how the money game is rigged. I spent 2 weeks researching, connecting characters, court cases, registered business locations etc and discovered a global web of corruption working through football. I found it worked hand in hand with the arms, sex slave and drugs trade. I found the banks were cognizant and complicit. I found the British Royal family were enabling it through the tax havens. I found the politicians that demand wars were enabling it and enforcing it. I woke the fuck up.

I wrote a 3 page article and posted it on the now defunct BBC 606 forum, choosing to keep the piece within the confines of football corruption and the next circle out; sex slavery, drugs and money laundry. All evidenced with references and links.
The piece lasted on the site for around 12 hours before it was removed and I was banned. Luckily quite a few die hard Pompey and Scummer fans saw it before the chop and there was a fair amount of chatter on the site for a short while. Hopefully some were inspired to look into shit for themselves.
I was not happy.
Contacted the BBC via both email and telephone to lodge a complaint.
Subsequently escalated to dispute. (I'm a bugger for researching and quoting statutes to these people)
Orignal BBC decision upheld with explanation. (been socking there ever since ;) )

The explanation being that people high up in PFC and the FA had got on the blower and threatened to sue for defamation.
The piece contained nothing whatsoever that was not 100% verifiable. The BBC and their lawyers could have torn them a new one in any court, anywhere..............if they'd wanted to.
Draw your own conclusions
The future closure of the 606 forum was announced not so long after. This is crucial. It was the end of any form of open debate on the BBC site. We now have the "have your say" system, where the Beeb systematically selects subjects that the masses can chat about. Invariably severely restricting access to the most relevant and important areas of the World current affairs.

Please note, I tried to do some seo friendly highlights. I think that would be fun. If I did it wrong can one of you savvy folk help me out please :emb: Also, please, let's try to seo the whole thread :)

ETA: Meet the um guvna...
Pini Zahavi
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pini_Zahavi
www.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-...ni-zahavi-portsmouth
www.thefreelibrary.com/FOOTBALL%3A+Was+t...+more...-a0131448384
A man who lives on a yacht and is at the hub of the whole of at least the last 20 years of football related corruption with connections to some very very dodgy fuckers. Our governments.
ETA again...
Meet his mate:
Arcadi Gaydamak
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_Gaydamak
Angolagate

In October 2009, Gaydamak and French magnate Pierre Falcone were convicted by a French court of organizing arms trafficking in Angola during the civil war in 1993-1998 in the amount of 790 million dollars, in violation of the Lusaka Protocol. He was sentenced in absentia to six years in prison, but his conviction on the arms dealing charges was overturned by the Court of Appeal in Paris on April 29, 2011. He is currently in Israel. France had attempted unsuccessfully to extradite Gaydamak from Israel, although Israeli law has changed in the interim and extradition is now possible.[8] It has been claimed by Peter Storrie that this situation helped to precipitate the financial crisis at Portsmouth Football Club. The club was owned by his son Alexandre, and the allegations caused banks to withdraw overdraft facilities from the club, and to demand total repayment.[9]
Follow the trail, if thou wilt...it's quite an eye opener.
X referencing one Balram Chanrai is a help:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balram_Chainrai
It opens out from there.


I wonder if there are any other examples of...the truth about the BBC....What was that bloke called?......Liked fiddlin kiddies with a cigar?
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The truth about the BBC 30 Sep 2013 00:32 #2

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To condense the gyst of that post down.
I presented extremely good, evidenced proof to the BBC that Portsmouth Football Club had been used as a multi million pound pawn by arms dealers and money launderers. I presented extremely good, evidenced proof that this took place as a part of a Global network involving the World's biggest clubs. A web of international serious crime operating predominantly through the tax haven of the British Virgin Islands.

One might think that would be newsworthy. That under it's charter obligations, the BBC had a duty to perform.

What the BBC did was cover it up.
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The truth about the BBC 30 Sep 2013 16:56 #3

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Sorry knob...

I have now read your post in it's entirety, though I have to admit when I first glanced at it before going to bed and read 'football', my eyes did glaze over somewhat.

I can assure you it will not happen again.

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The truth about the BBC 30 Sep 2013 18:07 #4

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Yeah I get it Abs :) The inspiration for the thread isn't footy related though, tis to collate stuff that shows the BBC's corruption into one handy place. Hopefully, if this seo stuff is all it's cracked up to be, we should be able to get it come up fairly frequently, no?
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The truth about the BBC 30 Sep 2013 18:57 #5

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Definitely. Bangin idea btw. :thumbup:
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The truth about the BBC 30 Sep 2013 21:34 #6

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Is that the same BBC that covered up the biggest child abuser Britain has ever known?
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Here's another little example of what in my book was a BBC cover up. The BBC's corruption is by no means restricted to covering things up but they do it a lot:

in 1986 a BBC investigative reporter named Andrew Jennings looked into corruption at Scotland Yard. He made a one hour documentary looking into it.
The BBC refused to air it. He resigned and wrote a book on the subject: www.amazon.co.uk/Scotland-Cocaine-Connec...nnings/dp/022402521X
He also went to ITV who did in fact air his piece.

We can't have the people knowing about Scotland Yard's connections with organized crime and drug cartels can we now BBC :roll:
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The truth about the BBC 03 Oct 2013 17:28 #8

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shake wrote:
Is that the same BBC that covered up the biggest child abuser Britain has ever known?

Yes. Yes it is:
www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-accused-o...ensored-8506191.html
21stcenturywire.com/2013/07/08/sex-pisto...vile-was-cut-by-bbc/


Covering up Jimmy Saville and his atrocities puts them at the top of the list of cover up wankers in my book.
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The BBC didn't come out of the Hutton report too well!
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Oh and slinging Jonathon Ross however many million squid it was per year!

Not exactly a cover up but still unforgivable.
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The truth about the BBC 03 Oct 2013 19:28 #11

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Oh and slinging Jonathon Ross however many million squid it was per year!

Not exactly a cover up but still unforgivable.

Well spotted
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The BBC didn't come out of the Hutton report too well!

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutton_Inquiry
The Hutton Inquiry was a 2003 judicial inquiry in the UK chaired by Lord Hutton, who was appointed by the Labour government to investigate the circumstances surrounding the death of David Kelly, a biological warfare expert and former UN weapons inspector in Iraq.

On 18 July 2003, Kelly, an employee of the Ministry of Defence, was found dead after he had been named as the source of quotations used by BBC journalist Andrew Gilligan. These quotations had formed the basis of media reports claiming that Tony Blair's Labour government had knowingly "sexed up" the "September Dossier", a report into Iraq and weapons of mass destruction. The inquiry opened in August 2003 and reported on 28 January 2004. The Hutton report cleared the government of wrongdoing, while the BBC was strongly criticised, leading to the resignation of the BBC's chairman Gavyn Davies and director-general Greg Dyke. The report was met with scepticism by the British public,[1] and criticism by British newspapers such as The Guardian, Independent, and the Daily Mail, though others said it exposed serious flaws within the BBC.
Let's not forget of course that the Hutton Inquiry was um....a cover up. Absolving the government?...sheesh.



Can't have this thread without another wiki link. A link to the Criticism of the BBC page
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC
including such delights as:
Racism and Homophobia
The BBC has also been accused of racism. In a speech to the Royal Television Society in 2008, Lenny Henry said that ethnic minorities were "pitifully underserved" in television comedy and that little had changed at senior levels in terms of ethnic representation during his 32 years in television. Jimmy McGovern in a 2007 interview called the BBC "one of the most racist institutions in England".

In 2001, BBC director-general Greg Dyke admitted that the BBC was "hideously white", and acknowledged difficulties with "race relations". He acknowledged that it was having difficulties in retaining minority staff and outlined plans towards solving these problems


The Independent, a British morning newspaper, has accused the BBC of being "institutionally homophobic" towards the Gay community after an investigation by the University of Leeds found 80% of portrayals by the BBC of those who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender ('LGBT') were negative and accounted for just 0.4% of output. Focus groups[which?] accused the BBC of being the worst broadcaster in terms of gay and lesbian issues and their portrayal of them
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The truth about the BBC 03 Oct 2013 21:35 #13

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Oh and slinging Jonathon Ross however many million squid it was per year!

Not exactly a cover up but still unforgivable.

Indeed. The BBC is a monopoly. It circumvents the attention of the Monopolies Commission by virtue of it's Royal Charter
Every single person that wants to watch tv or listen to the radio in Britain must pay the BBC. Regardless of them ever using the BBC or not.
The BBC is in fact beyond a monopoly....it is essentially funded by a form of tax. A license

And how wisely do the recipients of this tax use the money that the good folk of Britain are forced to give it?
www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radi...bbc-16m-7946234.html
Accounts published today show 16 top earners shared around £16.4 million in 2011/12.

In 2010/11, 19 people filled the top three bands pulling in pay of more than £21 million

They don't like to talk about stuff like that though:
www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a236355/...eal-top-earners.html
The BBC Trust has said that it will bow to public pressure by ordering the corporation to publish more details about its biggest earners, but not how much they are individually paid.

Speaking today to BBC Breakfast, Trust chairman Sir Michael Lyons said that the move to reveal the BBC's biggest earners is designed to "recapture public confidence" in the corporation.However, he also confirmed that the corporation will not have to disclose how much each of its stars actually earn, which is likely to prove controversial with the BBC's critics.

Tbf, the bbc did give ground after the revelations about the earnings of the likes of Jonathon Ross. Quite a few of the money addict luvvies defected as a result :roll:
This was only as a result of the massive pressure that the public put on them once they became aware though...
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We haven't really touched on how the BBC operates as the propaganda outlet for the British State (read the banks and the Queen) yet. The BBC is often criticised by both the political left/right. What both fail to see is that it's the State, not the government that the BBC really works for.
We all know that the political parties are just there to give some illusion of choice to the people. Choice within very limited parameters perhaps but if the banks want austerity, the banks get austerity.

Here's a nice little snippet of how the BBC helps the State:
www.inclusionlondon.co.uk/Reclaiming+Our...+welfare+reform+bias
Reclaiming Our Futures: Activists target BBC over welfare reform ‘bias
Disabled activists have targeted the BBC to protest at its “biased” coverage of the impact of the government’s welfare cuts and reforms on disabled people.

Campaigners from Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC), Black Triangle and the Mental Health Resistance Network, working with members of the mainstream anti-cuts movement, locked their wheelchairs together at the entrance to Broadcasting House in central London.

The peaceful protest was part of DPAC’s Reclaiming Our Futures week of action, and saw the front entrance to the new Broadcasting House blocked off for an hour.

Although police officers did arrive and talk to the protesters, there were no arrests.

The protesters said they were there because the BBC had played a key part in deteriorating public attitudes towards disabled people.

Andy Greene, a member of DPAC’s steering group, said that current affairs programmes like The Future State of Welfare, Saints and Scroungers, and We All Pay Your Benefits were “pitching disabled people and benefit claimants against the working poor”.

And he said that the BBC Trust’s decision last month to criticise The Future State Of Welfare “proves that actually this is not just an abstract accusation, this is happening right across the BBC”.

He said that disabled people were being held responsible for the government’s cuts, with BBC radio phone-ins full of callers claiming that “most disabled people are swinging the lead”.

He added: “The only thing we seem to be talking about is how the poor in this country are to blame for being poor and need to sharpen their act and work harder at not being poor.

“The barriers in society are not being addressed. Nobody is holding politicians to account, while individuals are being demonised and hounded throughout the media. It is not right that a state-owned broadcaster is participating in this propaganda.

“Why are they not holding these politicians to account? Why are they not challenging the narrative and creating spaces for us who are challenging it to be heard.”

He called on the BBC to provide an “unbiased and balanced opportunity” for those disabled people affected by the government’s cuts and reforms “to have their say” and hold politicians to account.

Conan Doyle, another of the DPAC protesters, said: “The idea of the BBC is fantastic. It makes some of the best programmes in the world on such a tiny budget.

“I love the BBC – but when I see how much they misrepresent us, that is when it makes me angry. They are complicit in the propaganda of the ‘benefit scrounger’.”

He added: “I know a lot of disabled people who work. They are called scroungers just because they look different.”

In the last few weeks he said he had been having difficulty walking and “somebody just shouted ‘benefit scrounger’ at me”.

He said: “I think all media outlets play a part in that. By giving only one side of the story in the way it does, the BBC is one of the most complicit television networks.”

Paula Peters, from the Mental Health Resistance Network, said: “We want the BBC to start hearing our voice and start giving a more measured argument.

“We have got a voice, we have got a right to be heard and we are going to keep coming back until we are heard.”

A BBC spokesman said: “We don’t comment on security matters.”

Got to love the last sentence eh...
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The truth about the BBC 04 Oct 2013 00:36 #15

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How about a bit of institutional sexism?

I think we can safely tick that box:
www.eavesforwomen.org.uk/news-events/new...institutional-sexism
After giving evidence to the Leveson Inquiry in January 2012 on media sexism and hosting a follow-up seminar in March, Eaves (in collaboration with End Violence Against Women, Equality Now and Object), wrote to George Entwistle, Director General of the BBC, last week to call on the BBC to investigate institutional sexism in relation to the Jimmy Savile Inquiry.

The letter recommends that the inquiry consults with sexual violence experts in order to gain a deeper understanding into victims of violence and sexual abuse. It also calls on the BBC to recognise the links between institutionalised sexism and sexual abuse in the workplace, and to look not only at the allegations in the past but at the current culture in the BBC.

It is hoped that the letter will put pressure on Entwistle who is being questioned about the scandal by the same committee who investigated the phone hacking scandal.

“The BBC is a great and important institution, we are pleased that they have opened an inquiry but we hope that they make the links between the abuse in the 70’s and the broader culture of institutionalised sexism”.

I could of course now link to numerous comments made by presenters over the years...Let's just have a couple...Mr John Inverdale...step forward please:
www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a496317/...imbledon-remark.html
The BBC has been forced to apologise after presenter John Inverdale said that women's Wimbledon champion Marion Bartoli was "never going to be a looker".

Now you Murray you cheeky wee scamp:
www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radi...eptable-8737317.html

Comments made by the freelance BBC presenter Colin Murray about Olympic gold medallist Jessica Ennis-Hill’s “bottom” have been cited by the Culture Secretary Maria Miller as further evidence that the broadcaster needs to do more to confront sexism.

Murray upset some athletics fans during the warm-up for the Anniversary Games on Friday evening when he suggested to the crowd of 65,000 that a perfect athlete would combine “the stamina of Mo [Farah], the speed of [Usain] Bolt, the leap of [Greg] Rutherford and the bottom of Jess Ennis”. What he said was not broadcast.

Note they are both still current flagship sport's presenters. It's still rife. Though tiz nowt new:

www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters...emic/5047659.article
‘In TV and radio in the 70s, 80s and even 90s, women were all too often regarded as something to have smutty fun with’
Janet Street Porter

‘I want George Entwistle to be prepared for anything that might be coming, because it will come out’
Liz Kershaw

‘Staff need to know there are avenues they can go down to complain and that they will see results’
Lorraine Heggessey

‘I consider this a culture endemic across the whole of radio and television and certainly not limited to the BBC’
Sandi Toksvig

‘There were fewer women in positions of power then to speak out’
Daisy Goodwin

I do take issue with JSP over her staying mum about Saville
And DG is wrong in the article. The BBC is still full of it...As in our two brave misogynists above.
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I do take issue with JSP over her staying mum about Saville

I really felt for JSP when I saw her talking about this on QT once. It didn't make for very comfortable viewing when someone asked her why she had never said anything, but she did make some attempt to explain by mentioning that she herself had been the victim of abuse.

I know this is no excuse, but I can't even begin to imagine the thought processes involved with dealing with something like that after experiencing it first hand yourself and particularly realising just how endemic it appeared to be. It must have been traumatic and quite overwhelming, I'd imagine. And again, she is female in a seemingly very male dominated world.

I think many of us, even though we can see something is very wrong, eventually learn to just accept it as the norm, no matter how horrendous it may appear to others. Just try and look at the state of the world we're currently living in with fresh eyes for a few minutes.
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I do here you Abs and I'm in no way targetting negativity toward her. I just think she was in a position, as her career developed, to say something. For whatever reason, she chose not to.
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I do here you Abs and I'm in no way targetting negativity toward her. I just think she was in a position, as her career developed, to say something. For whatever reason, she chose not to.

I can't imagine you targetting negativity at anyone, puddin'. :hug:

I believe she was asked in response to admitting that she was aware that things like this went on in the first place. I think it says a lot about her mindset regarding the issue that she even did that and didn't just keep schtum, which she quite easily could have done.
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For sure. We have to accept that she is a small cog in a big machine and that she had probably buried lots of personal shit for decades just to get through. Perhaps, she felt the time had arrived to unburden herself :dunno:

All that said, her holding that all in for so long is just another example of what real people have suffered inside this corporation
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Let's mention another of the ways that the BBC is corrupt and not fit for purpose.
The lie of omission.
The BBC is charter bound to inform and educate the people. It has an inbuilt supposed responsibility to cover events. And yet, time after time, the BBC chooses to totally avoid certain subjects.
Today for example, andy has posted a link to an RT interview with the World Bank whistle blower, Karen Hudes:
rt.com/shows/sophieco/world-bank-us-shutdown-820/
This lady has had an awful lot to say about economic collapse, market manipulation and the 'elite' few who control the World Bank and the IMF.
Googling her name, yields very many results. Just type her name into the BBC search engine though...."Sorry, no results found for your search".

Now, given what this lady has to say, you would think that the BBC would be reporting it. It does after all affect each and every one of us.....
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The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

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9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

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Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

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