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OK, this is what's made me mad as hell today..... 09 Oct 2013 19:51 #261

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The element that'd be predominant if I Was unhindered. :D

Somebody unfetter dear Gilly...at once I say!
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OK, this is what's made me mad as hell today..... 09 Oct 2013 19:53 #262

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We need to be much clearer imo or we risk having all the claims dismissed as nonsense.
Simply put, we need the science more than 'opinion' to be credible and spark/force remedial action.

Agreed, so rather than just post opinion here, why don't we all try and do as we were a few pages back and actually post links to what might be considered 'evidence' as well as our own views on it.

It's just about all we can do, short of going outside and measuring stuff ourselves (it should also be noted that most of my measuring occurs indoors).

Abs....olutely 'on the money'. :D
But seeing as this happened..... :jakd: I've lost all motivation.
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Reptired wrote:

We almost always use words in different meanings, first we would need to agree on a definition.

Wikipedia gives the first result

"Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work."

Is this precisely what you mean?
If not give your definition.

Wise of you to do that first.
Shall we say forcing people to do something they wouldn't do otherwise is what I meant.

That is slavery to me and that is precisely what a job is, unless it happens to be chief condom tester on the amazonian planet that captain kirk landed on a while back...
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OK, this is what's made me mad as hell today..... 09 Oct 2013 20:00 #264

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andyh wrote:
Reptired wrote:

We almost always use words in different meanings, first we would need to agree on a definition.

Wikipedia gives the first result

"Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work."

Is this precisely what you mean?
If not give your definition.

Wise of you to do that first.
Shall we say forcing people to do something they wouldn't do otherwise is what I meant.

That is slavery to me and that is precisely what a job is, unless it happens to be chief condom tester on the amazonian planet that captain kirk landed on a while back...

People aren't forced to work though, unless they are slaves in the wikipedia definition.
That's an absurd concept, people must take in energy and have shelter etc, that's just the laws of the physical reality and the human body.
Unless you want to say you're a slave to reality.
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Reptired wrote:
andyh wrote:
Reptired wrote:

We almost always use words in different meanings, first we would need to agree on a definition.

Wikipedia gives the first result

"Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work."

Is this precisely what you mean?
If not give your definition.

Wise of you to do that first.
Shall we say forcing people to do something they wouldn't do otherwise is what I meant.

That is slavery to me and that is precisely what a job is, unless it happens to be chief condom tester on the amazonian planet that captain kirk landed on a while back...

People aren't forced to work though, unless they are slaves in the wikipedia definition.
That's an absurd concept, people must take in energy and have shelter etc, that's just the laws of the physical reality and the human body.
Unless you want to say you're a slave to reality.

Steal it then yep? :)

Build on govt land?

Can't do any of that normal stuff now you end up in the clink.
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OK, this is what's made me mad as hell today..... 09 Oct 2013 20:06 #266

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andyh wrote:
Reptired wrote:
andyh wrote:
Reptired wrote:

We almost always use words in different meanings, first we would need to agree on a definition.

Wikipedia gives the first result

"Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work."

Is this precisely what you mean?
If not give your definition.

Wise of you to do that first.
Shall we say forcing people to do something they wouldn't do otherwise is what I meant.

That is slavery to me and that is precisely what a job is, unless it happens to be chief condom tester on the amazonian planet that captain kirk landed on a while back...

People aren't forced to work though, unless they are slaves in the wikipedia definition.
That's an absurd concept, people must take in energy and have shelter etc, that's just the laws of the physical reality and the human body.
Unless you want to say you're a slave to reality.

Steal it then yep? :)

Build on govt land?

Can't do any of that normal stuff now you end up in the clink.

You're still not forced into it.
Do you think there is another option?
How would you get resources if you don't do anything for them.
Take your next meal, you could kill an animal, gather some greens or do something for someone else in exchange for food or "money" -> food.
What would change the necessity for action in the real world or a transfer of perceived value in order to bring you your meal?


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*sorry folks*
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Can we take this discussion to another thread and give Jane the thread she started back?

Pretty please...

Case Orange:
www.saive.com/BELFORT.html
Tiz a 300 page report and a bit bandwidth heavy. Aint read it yet meself, but I will.
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knobmeup wrote:
Can we take this discussion to another thread and give Jane the thread she started back?

Pretty please...

Case Orange:
www.saive.com/BELFORT.html
Tiz a 300 page report and a bit bandwidth heavy. Aint read it yet meself, but I will.

Thanks Knob. :gmc:
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OK, this is what's made me mad as hell today..... 09 Oct 2013 21:17 #269

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Ok, this video does ask questions if you actually watch it...It even has pulses...


Note that when both planes are producing trails at the beginning, the trails mingle, which implies they are indeed in formation at a similar altitude. And yet one plane's trail is 'on', 'off', 'on'...How does this happen in the context of regular contrails? Surely both would either be 'on' or both would be 'off'?
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Humidity and temperature won't be even in all areas so contrails can appear/disappear as they travel. I'd expect it see it present for the most part though. I'd also normally expect to see it dissipate not expand out into massive clouds.
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Yeah I get that but these planes are seemingly in close formation at the same altitude...do you see why that provokes the question, why does only one plane lose it's trail?
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knobmeup wrote:
Yeah I get that but these planes are seemingly in close formation at the same altitude...do you see why that provokes the question, why does only one plane lose it's trail?

Yes 'seemingly' but we're taking the maker of the video's word on that, they could be at different altitudes on similar path.
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Absent, the whole vid being faked, as I already said, at the start the trails do appear to be mingling. As in, they are in close formation at a very similar altitude...Please don't make me type it again :D
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The man in the vid above is now dead...
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andy wrote:
If a plane is leaving a trail and its actually above 30,000ft then I'd put it to you that its not a contrail but most definitely a chemtrail.

34,000ft and above...and below.
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Space Preservation Act 2001
www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html
Section 7 (b)
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons
I was gonna paste a link to the NASA website concerning their spraying of lithium for "communications purposes"....Sadly, the silly US government is shutdown and so is their site :D :umm:

This'll have to do for now:
beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/07/why-did-...irginia-2462438.html
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knobmeup wrote:
Absent, the whole vid being faked, as I already said, at the start the trails do appear to be mingling. As in, they are in close formation at a very similar altitude...Please don't make me type it again :D

Hmmm I've watched it again just to be sure and the trails are not mingling, they're at different altitude on the same direction.
Also 6000ft seems wrong to me as its well above cumulus clouds there. Ofc its difficult to get that right as its zoomed in with no reference.

I've been in plenty of planes myself (again this weekend groan...) and often seen planes cross and a couple of times I shit myself cos I thought they'd hit but there was thousands of feet between them.
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