Reptired wrote:
Gilly wrote:
But having said that, you often encounter the type of assertions from those childless people, such as the ones (no offence intended) expressed by Rep, who thinks that if a child is being willful, it's because you have a damaged relationship - and any form of sanctioning is scorned, so professional help is needed. And (honestly, no offence intended

) that's just ridiculous.
If a child is "being wilful" it is because it has will, I don't see a problem with this.

And that's where you'd make as good a parent as the scientists I mentioned on another thread...
Gilly wrote:
Hahaha! Just watched 10 minutes of that nanny programme. It was like watching a car crash.
2 scientists have a 3 yr old & a 1 yr old, and the kids are shrieking and trying to kill each other - dad's going, "No dear, we don't want you to do that", while one's braying the other over the head with a bottle & ignoring him!
They make shows about any old bollix these days.
Of course reasoning is always the proper basis of teaching kids. The problem is, small children are to a great extent focussed on their immediate wants, and don't take distress caused to others much into account sometimes. If you don't 'impose your will', by laying down rules about conduct, and think you're going to get by with reasoning alone with a tired, cranky tot, then you end up like the couple in that programme. They daren't go out in public much with them much, because they scream and demand, and try to run off, and drag products off shop shelves, and ignore mum & dad's attempts at reasoning, and are generally a disruptive pain in the arse to all within earshot.
It's not abuse to make them behave properly, and it does them no favours to avoid doing so. It's basic common sense.
Laissez faire parenting is neglectful. Neglect is abuse.