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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:37 #1

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Genuinely curious about this

Renewing my passport and had new photo's taken today

It states 'do not smile'

I look like some weird homicidal manic that has just stepped in dog shit and someone asked me to eat it!

It does not in the slightest bit look like me

I smile most of the time ........it feels like a mugshot for going to an american prision


Why are we not allowed to smile in passport photo's?????

Does anyone know

Is it to make us all look like criminals or 'terrorists' :hahano: instead of the happy cheerful people we are ?
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:41 #2

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Because British dental care is notoriously ropey and quite frankly, the authorities are embarassed. As well they should be.
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:42 #3

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the reason being when you are held at imigration for 6 hours missed your flight , you wouldn't be fukin smiling so they can make sure it's you
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:53 #4

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:D

two good points

@Abs I did wonder but american have to do it too and they all have the same teeth


At least you could identify a Brit from their dental records

@scaltura ....i wondered if it was airports pissed everyone off and none of us look happy in an airport :rofl:
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:54 #5

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i heard abs put diff photo in so he can get the pat down
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 20:58 #6

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scaltura wrote:
i heard abs put diff photo in so he can get the pat down

And what?

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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 21:06 #7

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I'd pat you down Ab's

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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 21:10 #8

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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 21:16 #9

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Smiling would present an element of self control, they can't make you smile at airport security unless they want to tickle you during an intimate search.

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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 29 Jan 2014 21:24 #10

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Is smilng not sort of spontaneous though?

Being asked to look directly into the camera taking passport photo's and make No Expression means an unnatural representation of oneself emerges in the booth?
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 03:10 #11

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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 04:03 #12

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Maybe as smiling distorts your face it throws out the facial recognition software? I rarely smile my problem is trying not to look furious having my photo taken lol! I'm really curious how muslim women get passports anyone know?
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 06:02 #13

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Baddoggydown wrote:
Maybe as smiling distorts your face it throws out the facial recognition software? I rarely smile my problem is trying not to look furious having my photo taken lol! I'm really curious how muslim women get passports anyone know?

Yes id say its because of the recog.

Muslim women.... well when i looked at the photo requirements in Australia, it says you must have your jawline/face showing... i assume pp photo requirements are similar in most places around the world now... heres a link... (scroll down to head coverings)

www.passports.gov.au/web/requirements/photos.aspx
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 07:03 #14

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novum wrote:
Baddoggydown wrote:
Maybe as smiling distorts your face it throws out the facial recognition software? I rarely smile my problem is trying not to look furious having my photo taken lol! I'm really curious how muslim women get passports anyone know?

Yes id say its because of the recog.

Muslim women.... well when i looked at the photo requirements in Australia, it says you must have your jawline/face showing... i assume pp photo requirements are similar in most places around the world now... heres a link... (scroll down to head coverings)

www.passports.gov.au/web/requirements/photos.aspx

I went to Australia for Christmas, they have a special queue now for those with e passports from certain countries so I got to try out my new passport (British). You don't present your passport to a Customs officer you stand on a line on the floor and look head on into a machine that works on facial recognition (eyes I think??) and you put your passport into a machine scanner thaing and it spits out a ticket then you move forward and hand the ticket to an officer and bob's your uncle. Speediest time I have ever had getting into Sydney. :thumbup:

So yes it seems that's why you have to have a mug shot on your passport. :chuckle:
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 07:29 #15

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Babs wrote:
I went to Australia for Christmas, they have a special queue now for those with e passports from certain countries so I got to try out my new passport (British). You don't present your passport to a Customs officer you stand on a line on the floor and look head on into a machine that works on facial recognition (eyes I think??) and you put your passport into a machine scanner thaing and it spits out a ticket then you move forward and hand the ticket to an officer and bob's your uncle. Speediest time I have ever had getting into Sydney. :thumbup:

So yes it seems that's why you have to have a mug shot on your passport. :chuckle:

Yep just went thru that myself landing in Melbourne, Id say the recognition is the whole face perhaps, not sure though, just a guess. Then i got GE ion scanned for drugs along with my stuff. Good thing none got on my clothes while abroad. :joker: :wissl:

I mean they have so much of our info anyway because of requirements... may as well do whats easier to get thru airports. Im probably going to do the TSA Pre✓™ thing also given that getting thru US customs is a drawn out PITA especially when the airport is busy. And they take photos and prints of you anyway everytime you go in, so may as well give it all to them once and get thru faster. Who wants to take their shoes and stuff off everytime :pissed:
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 07:48 #16

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novum wrote:
Babs wrote:
I went to Australia for Christmas, they have a special queue now for those with e passports from certain countries so I got to try out my new passport (British). You don't present your passport to a Customs officer you stand on a line on the floor and look head on into a machine that works on facial recognition (eyes I think??) and you put your passport into a machine scanner thaing and it spits out a ticket then you move forward and hand the ticket to an officer and bob's your uncle. Speediest time I have ever had getting into Sydney. :thumbup:

So yes it seems that's why you have to have a mug shot on your passport. :chuckle:

Oh and I didn't have to show any kind ot ticket though I had printed it off apparently it was attached to my passport number or was that to my Australian visa?

Yep just went thru that myself landing in Melbourne, Id say the recognition is the whole face perhaps, not sure though, just a guess. Then i got GE ion scanned for drugs along with my stuff. Good thing none got on my clothes while abroad. :joker: :wissl:

I mean they have so much of our info anyway because of requirements... may as well do whats easier to get thru airports. Im probably going to do the TSA Pre✓™ thing also given that getting thru US customs is a drawn out PITA especially when the airport is busy. And they take photos and prints of you anyway everytime you go in, so may as well give it all to them once and get thru faster. Who wants to take their shoes and stuff off everytime :pissed:

Oh and I didn't have to show any kind ot airline ticket though I had printed it off - apparently it was attached to my passport number or was that to my Australian visa?
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 07:56 #17

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Babs wrote:
Oh and I didn't have to show any kind ot airline ticket though I had printed it off - apparently it was attached to my passport number or was that to my Australian visa?

Maybe/probably to both... its all on computer now of course and recorded/linked.

Did you have to buy a return ticket? or rather was it a return ticket that you purchased initially? I assume it was.

Some countries wont let you in if you dont have a return ticket to indicate that you will leave again.
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 08:00 #18

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novum wrote:
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Oh and I didn't have to show any kind ot airline ticket though I had printed it off - apparently it was attached to my passport number or was that to my Australian visa?

Maybe/probably to both... its all on computer now of course and recorded/linked.

Did you have to buy a return ticket? or rather was it a return ticket that you purchased initially? I assume it was.

Some countries wont let you in if you dont have a return ticket to indicate that you will leave again.

Oh God a return ticket to Australia sorry lol. :)
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 08:07 #19

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Babs wrote:
Oh God a return ticket to Australia sorry lol. :)

No i meant back to where u came from. :spank: :uk:
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Does anyone know why you aren't actually allowed to smile in passport photo's? 30 Jan 2014 08:15 #20

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novum wrote:
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Oh God a return ticket to Australia sorry lol. :)

No i meant back to where u came from. :spank: :uk:

Yeah sorry, I lived in Oz for 29 years and only came back here not quite 3 years ago so I am loving it here obviously and I won't be going back to Oz to live so my permanent resident visa has run our so I had to pay for a tourist visa, I wasn't happy about that after paying me taxes for all them years so anyway my ticket was return from London to Sydney and back home again.
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