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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:20 #321

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again if you're specific i can help you, there are seismic records from the monitoring stations of New York, so what do you mean by "lack of seismic data"?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:27 #322

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SilvaRizla wrote:
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Not only that, most people who criticize her are doing so without reading her research first hand, and use incomplete, inaccurate or plain false assertions that others have used when assessing her work. One idiot bouncing off another.
Ok, is Judy Wood 1-1000, a "scientist" with a pretty unique theory about what happened?

Are there many other scientists in her field who agree with her or do the overwhelming majority support the official explanation?

The general consensus seems to be that, those who understand her work support it, and those with enough professional experience about them (Engineers for 9/11 truth and the like) don't support the official theory.
Good example, take Engineers for 9/11 truth, as a percentage of all American Engineers how many support the theories of Judy Wood compared to how many support the official explanation?

It's maybe around >%5 of American scientists or engineers who don't support the official explanation, my point is mainly about consensus, any "lone nut" scientist can come out with a theory and get it reviewed by their buddies, the reality is what the majority of experts in a field agree on, not what one "potentially brilliant" scientist has theorized about Star Wars weaponry, have there been any peer reviews of Judy Wood's theories?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:30 #323

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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

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^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:33 #324

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:36 #325

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The missing shadow



No deceleration.

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Don't listen to SilvaRizla and the disinfo squad :killinme:

Now count the amount of frames that show the lack of deceleration for another object travelling at such high velocity into material that it penetrates.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:39 #326

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again if you're specific i can help you, there are seismic records from the monitoring stations of New York, so what do you mean by "lack of seismic data"?
SB?
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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

This.

Fox5jo0 Zps53192096


Nosedout4qh6 Zps204dbfc5

Nntb4


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^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.

www.911myths.com/index.php/Nose_out
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:43 #328

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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
Islam isn't a race.
Chestnut season already is it?

Ok, I'll pander to your silly old notions just the once.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bigoted cunt.

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:50 #329

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again if you're specific i can help you, there are seismic records from the monitoring stations of New York, so what do you mean by "lack of seismic data"?
SB?

I'm not entertaining you further.
Look at Dr Woods assertions about it.... then post up the evidence that discounts it.
Simples.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:53 #330

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

This.

Fox5jo0 Zps53192096


Nosedout4qh6 Zps204dbfc5

Nntb4


N5ev7

^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.

www.911myths.com/index.php/Nose_out


I've seen the nose out stuff millions of times BT.... it's still not the nose of an accidental cartoon plane! :D Why would it go upwards in the last frame? Additionally the speed of it doesn't seem to match..... there is a pause before the 'nose' comes out whereas if the cartoon plane just continued it should appear slightly earlier.... so that means the either the frame rate stuff is wrong, the nose out stuff is wrong, or both are wrong.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:55 #331

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Space Bandit wrote:
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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

This.

Fox5jo0 Zps53192096


Nosedout4qh6 Zps204dbfc5

Nntb4


N5ev7

^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.

www.911myths.com/index.php/Nose_out


I've seen the nose out stuff millions of times BT.... it's still not the nose of an accidental cartoon plane! :D Why would it go upwards in the last frame?

I don't see it going upwards. even if it is slightly it could be due to explosions.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:58 #332

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Islam isn't a race.

Islam is a religion.

But it has been used as a reason for racial profiling.
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Blue_Tackler wrote:
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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

This.

Fox5jo0 Zps53192096


Nosedout4qh6 Zps204dbfc5

Nntb4


N5ev7

^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.

www.911myths.com/index.php/Nose_out


I've seen the nose out stuff millions of times BT.... it's still not the nose of an accidental cartoon plane! :D Why would it go upwards in the last frame?

I don't see it going upwards. even if it is slightly it could be due to explosions.

It's the last still I posted that shows a change in its trajectory which is followed by an explosion.
I also edited the last post regarding inconsistencies in its speed.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 11 Feb 2014 00:19 #334

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dubmeup wrote:
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
Islam isn't a race.
Chestnut season already is it?

Ok, I'll pander to your silly old notions just the once.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bigoted cunt.

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How dare you say i'm the bigoted one, if you got off your high horse you might get a better view of what Islam as a barbaric set of customs actually is, Islam prefers death to science they teach and worship death. Nice religion, and yes Mikey you are right, it's not a religion it's a delusion, people should be slapped round the face and told to wake up from it.

Why shouldn't I be happy to shoot somebody in the face who is on his way to mutilate some young girl if he isn't willing to stop his actions?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 11 Feb 2014 00:23 #335

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simulacra wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
simulacra wrote:
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
Islam isn't a race.
Chestnut season already is it?

Ok, I'll pander to your silly old notions just the once.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bigoted cunt.

:uk:
How dare you say i'm the bigoted one, if you got off your high horse you might get a better view of what Islam as a barbaric set of customs actually is, Islam prefers death to science they teach and worship death. Nice religion, and yes Mikey you are right, it's not a religion it's a delusion, people should be slapped round the face and told to wake up from it.

Why shouldn't I be happy to shoot somebody in the face who is on his way to mutilate some young girl if he isn't willing to stop his actions?

The far better solution would be to have invested in thorium power early on and never bothered with oil and then we wouldn't be in this mess.
No killing was necessary.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 11 Feb 2014 00:29 #336

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simulacra wrote:
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
Islam isn't a race.
Chestnut season already is it?

Ok, I'll pander to your silly old notions just the once.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bigoted cunt.

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How dare you say i'm the bigoted one, if you got off your high horse you might get a better view of what Islam as a barbaric set of customs actually is, Islam prefers death to science they teach and worship death. Nice religion, and yes Mikey you are right, it's not a religion it's a delusion, people should be slapped round the face and told to wake up from it.

Why shouldn't I be happy to shoot somebody in the face who is on his way to mutilate some young girl if he isn't willing to stop his actions?

This is preposterous & you've completely altered & misrepresented what Mikey said.
What you're essentially saying is that anybody who believes in Islam deserves shooting because they're on their way to do indecent things to young girls whilst pre-occupied with death.
Your belief system seems pretty barbaric to me...... and obviously, completely & utterly fucked up.
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[ Nice religion, and yes Mikey you are right, it's not a religion it's a delusion,

You may have misread my post. :secret2:
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Islam is a religion.

But it has been used as a reason for racial profiling.
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My point a few pages back before dubmeup derailed this thread with accusations against my character was that the USA and West should have stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan longer and supported their attempts at democracy.

The UK, USA and France should have supported the attempts of Syrian people to overthrow the Russian puppet Al Assad aswell, they didn't.

They are too soft against Islam, it's something they would not get if Islam instituted a Caliphate in their lands, Islam already tries to kill people in foreign countries for drawing pictures and writing books!
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
Islam isn't a race.
Chestnut season already is it?

Ok, I'll pander to your silly old notions just the once.
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you bigoted cunt.

:uk:
How dare you say i'm the bigoted one, if you got off your high horse you might get a better view of what Islam as a barbaric set of customs actually is, Islam prefers death to science they teach and worship death. Nice religion, and yes Mikey you are right, it's not a religion it's a delusion, people should be slapped round the face and told to wake up from it.

Why shouldn't I be happy to shoot somebody in the face who is on his way to mutilate some young girl if he isn't willing to stop his actions?

The far better solution would be to have invested in thorium power early on and never bothered with oil and then we wouldn't be in this mess.
No killing was necessary.
Although in hindsight I amire your sentiments, but you are mistaken, the wild eyed jihadis who hijacked four passenger jets and flew them to their death screaming "god is great" were not doing any of this because of oil or resources.
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Democracy is bombing the crap out of people is it?
Doesn't seem like the west has a more valid belief system to me.
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