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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:13 #301

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Four or five deeply divided ideas of what happened, and the purpose of the 9/11 truth movement is....

what is your purpose? All you've done so far is to talk a load of provable shite & obviously you aint got the foggiest idea about the topic bar to repeat what you've been told by the 9/11 commission.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:16 #302

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How many pilots are there in the world vs how many pilots in 9/11 truth?
Is it as equally as small a percentage as with engineers and scientists? Could these tiny proportions who ascribe to 911 theories signify a minority of delusional individuals within a given field?
What do you actually believe then, that the planes were holograms?

You've obviously ignored the context of that post & are now just wibbling.

I don't believe or disbelieve any of the theories until they can be proved/disproved.
How is that? Might be a little too rational for ya.

That is extremely irrational, to believe everything at face value is akin to blind faith, you should doubt everything until you can prove it, that is actual reason, not your particular inverted version of it.

Eh?
Read it again.
I don't believe or disbelieve
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You believe the official story isn't true though don't you.

I give it a small chance. But the evidence provided isn't substantial enough to be convincing, especially given the wider context.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:18 #303

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Mr Bandit all i've seen from you is personal attacks, this is a topic about Judy Wood, I have been asking many questions about her theories in this thread and been looking through her site, I have still seen ZERO supporting evidence or testimony in any way superior to the 911 commission.

Just speculation, so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:20 #304

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Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:20 #305

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Space Bandit wrote:
simulacra wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
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Space Bandit wrote:
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How many pilots are there in the world vs how many pilots in 9/11 truth?
Is it as equally as small a percentage as with engineers and scientists? Could these tiny proportions who ascribe to 911 theories signify a minority of delusional individuals within a given field?
What do you actually believe then, that the planes were holograms?

You've obviously ignored the context of that post & are now just wibbling.

I don't believe or disbelieve any of the theories until they can be proved/disproved.
How is that? Might be a little too rational for ya.

That is extremely irrational, to believe everything at face value is akin to blind faith, you should doubt everything until you can prove it, that is actual reason, not your particular inverted version of it.

Eh?
Read it again.
I don't believe or disbelieve
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You believe the official story isn't true though don't you.

I give it a small chance. But the evidence provided isn't substantial enough to be convincing, especially given the wider context.

What exactly "isn't substantial enough", what do you think needs more elaboration?
I agree with this is some respects but you have to be specific, for instance I believe the government should release more of the footage of the Pentagon and more of the flight recordings, so far they've released the bare minimum.

What do you mean by "wider context"?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:22 #306

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Mr Bandit all i've seen from you is personal attacks,

Bullshit & a really crap tactic.
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this is a topic about Judy Wood, I have been asking many questions about her theories in this thread and been looking through her site, I have still seen ZERO supporting evidence or testimony in any way superior to the 911 commission.

Just speculation, so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

In that case perhaps you can explain the lack of seismic data from such a large amount of mass.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:23 #307

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What do you mean by "wider context"?

Cui bono?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:26 #308

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What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:28 #309

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What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:30 #310

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
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6 Zps45ec6fe3



Looks to me like birdies cause more damage to aeroplane nose cones than WTC's which are built from construction steel and reinforced concrete.

ThXX472LRB Zps3a4c9ab9

The nose cone of a plane is made out of very lightweight material.

So even if by some miraculous event this lightweight aeroplane nose cone managed to use kinetic energy at 500mph to bore it's way through construction steel and reinforced concrete, how did it manage to use the same kinetic energy again to bore through another layer of the same ?
Surely once the energy has been expended it's been expended, the aeroplane would not be able to rebuild the lost momentum again?

This means that the tip of the nose cone of the aeroplane would not have be damaged by the first impact, to enable it's aerodynamic design to permit it to drive the nose cone through another layer of material that was stronger than itself.

The question of penetrating a weaker material through stronger material by use of kinetic energy is one thing, and possibly arguable, even though I disagree, but then for the 'aeroplane's' nose cone to break through another layer is impossible if we're assuming that kinetic energy was the 'permit' on the first instance.

Just so we're clear, are you referring to the 'nose out' video or is there some further evidence to suggest that the nose came out of the other side?

This.

Fox5jo0 Zps53192096


Nosedout4qh6 Zps204dbfc5

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^this is not a plane's nose & it actually changes direction upwards.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:33 #311

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so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:39 #312

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What do you mean by "wider context"?

Cui bono?

Bin Laden called for about five years prior to 9/11 for the Islamic world (deeply/inherently divided) to unite against Israel, America and India, to kill Americans and attack them all over the world.

He repeatedly attempted to lure the US into Afghanistan from 97, publicly in international media, you ask me who benefits the orchestrator of the attacks thought he would benefit, that his God would benefit and that his people would unite if the West was drawn into a conflict, they may well lose if fought on Al Qaeda's terms.

Many of these people who blow themselves up think it's to the glory of god and their immortal soul will benefit.

The West should have stayed longer in Iraq and Afghan in my view, forcibly converting Islamic fundamentalists not pulling out like they have and leaving a vacuum for the religious divisions to express themselves.

Every week in Iraq now you get some religious nut blowing themselves up in public place, qui bono?
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:44 #313

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so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

Jog on now...
If you are specific I can answer your question.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 19:58 #314

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so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

Jog on now...
If you are specific I can answer your question.

You claimed that you have cast doubt over the theories presented in the thread.... one of them being seismic data.
So to then claim that you don't know what I'm referring to suggests you are just a time waster.
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.

Heh, sounds just like the jihadists but from a xtian crusade pov.
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TBH i think the West should have forcibly converted or killed every Islamist in the Mid East, if they want to be moderate and embrace western values fine, if not shoot them in the head imo.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on you racist cunt.
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so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

Jog on now...
If you are specific I can answer your question.

You claimed that you have cast doubt over the theories presented in the thread.... one of them being seismic data.
So to then claim that you don't know what I'm referring to suggests you are just a time waster.
I never saw the post where seismic data was being discussed in this thread.
It only took about five or ten minutes for me to make up my mind about how deranged and irrelevant Judy Wood is, so I never really had to look into the finer points of how she corrupts seismological data to manufacture her thesis.
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i do believe the icke mods are getting worried by the dr judy wood supporters re 911 10 Feb 2014 20:17 #320

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simulacra wrote:
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so my purpose has been to subject Judy Wood's theories as presented in this thread to my own doubts.

What do you mean the lack of seismic data, for what specifically?

Jog on now...
If you are specific I can answer your question.

You claimed that you have cast doubt over the theories presented in the thread.... one of them being seismic data.
So to then claim that you don't know what I'm referring to suggests you are just a time waster.
I never saw the post where seismic data was being discussed in this thread.
It only took about five or ten minutes for me to make up my mind about how deranged and irrelevant Judy Wood is, so I never really had to look into the finer points of how she corrupts seismological data to manufacture her thesis.

Oh I guess that settles it then.... ad hominem attacks clearly hold greater evidence than the actual evidence itself, and your credibility as a scientist beyond the capabilities of Dr Wood ensure that we listen to you instead.... especially the highly intelligent bits about shooting people in the head.
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So.... the lack of seismic data?
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