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9/11 The Remains 14 Feb 2014 15:45 #1

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After being involved in enough threads/posts I've concluded that there won't be an agreement.

There appears to be still posters with views ranging from believing the official narrative and to No Planes/holograms.

So I suppose it would be a responsible point of view to assume the truth to be somewhere within those parameters.

I'm asking posters not to post their views of the 'truth' on this thread, as it's then a point of conflict and debate, so instead of discussing theories can I ask that this thread be used to pick at the remaining evidence that appears not to be debunked.

I'm going to be proposing evidence in this first post that....
1) The engine found on Murray Street, is not from a 'United Airlines' Boeing 767, as proposed by the official narrative, it was a 7-series 747 engine.
2) That the Aeroplanes used for strikes on WTC towers were not piloted by humans.
3) The flight history data for the said aircraft is either missing or has significant gaps/or not but undisclosed.
4) Flight 77 Cockpit Door Never Opened During 9/11 “Hijack”.

1)
ckpi.typepad.com/christopher_king/2009/0...y-street-engine.html



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3)
According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks. No pre-9/11 flight information is available for these planes during 2001.
No pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).
''According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks, while no pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).

However, a discovered searchable online BTS database produces the following search results for three of the four 9/11 aircraft on September 10, 2001:

AA 11 departs San Francisco (SFO): AA 09/10/2001 0198 (flight number) N334AA (tail number) BOS (destination) 22:04 (wheels-off time)

UA 175 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0170 (flight number) N612UA (tail number) BOS (destination) 13:44 (wheels-off time)

UA 93 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0078 (flight number) N591UA (tail number) EWR (destination) 23:15 (wheels-off time)''
911blogger.com/node/20456

4)
rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr

If anyone can find any leftover not debunked data that can be verified then please post it here, at least it will mean that there are the few pieces of evidence that have stood up as credible.

As I say, there's no point debating who's right or wrong, if a collection of evidence can now be 'undebunked' after all this time and scrutiny, then it's now likely that those pieces will help to draw a final conclusion about what happened.

There is no point quoting anyone or holding up elements of practically applied theory, what we need is actual evidence of the attack.
I don't think it's worth debating the 'collapse' of the towers, that's been done and the debate goes on, if we can look at the information about the planes, there are lots of avenues to explore, such as the four examples on this post.
I don't think that there can be much debate about the 'pilot skill required' the evidence of the 'cockpit door not opening' nor the engine, the only debate is why the 'Bureau of Transportation Statistics' have released information about flight history of the said planes, that appears to have been contradicted by their own data Base?

No theories please, if any posters wish to 'hold up' evidence that they believe has passed the debunk test about 9/11, which is based on fact and not applied theory then please use this thread.
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9/11 The Remains 14 Feb 2014 16:23 #2

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9/11 The Remains 01 May 2014 09:39 #3

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9/11 The Remains 01 May 2014 12:40 #4

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
I'm going to be proposing evidence in this first post that....
1) The engine found on Murray Street, is not from a 'United Airlines' Boeing 767, as proposed by the official narrative, it was a 7-series 747 engine.

The engine was a Pratt and Whitney JT9D-7R4D which is an engine commonly used on 767's.

Here is the engine that landed on Murray Street:

Wtc Engine2


Here is a JT9D-7R4D for comparison:

Wtc Engine3
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@ 3point5

Look at the cooling ducts on this example.

ckpi.typepad.com/christopher_king/2009/0...y-street-engine.html
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9/11 The Remains 01 May 2014 13:30 #6

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JT9D 7 series Boeing 747 (found on Murray st)

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JT9D-7R4D Boeing 767

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06c244db 203f 451c Be1f 76eae77f8a62 Zps803c6fcd

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT9D
So the JT9D 7 series, is exclusive to 747.
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9/11 The Remains 01 May 2014 14:28 #8

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
06c244db 203f 451c Be1f 76eae77f8a62 Zps803c6fcd

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JT9D
So the JT9D 7 series, is exclusive to 747.
:dunno:

Look a couple of lines down from where you've wrote 'Murray Street', the 7 series engine is also listed for the 767 and the A310.

I'm just reading through that Christopher King post now and will reply shortly.
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Right, having read that article and done a bit of reading in parts catalogues, it looks to me that they're two different parts for a start. One is the HPT stage 1 cooling duct assembly, whilst the other is just the HPT stage 1 cooling duct. The fact that the HPT 1 assembly has 24 holes on the outer flange and the duct has 24 holes on the inner flange, I'd not be surprised if they bolted together.

Boeing also say the following:
Each 767 is powered by two high-bypass-ratio turbofan engines, which are interchangeable with 747 engines with only minor modifications.

Edit: Source for the above quote www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/767fami...f/pf_background.page
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