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Greyhound Racing 09 Nov 2012 19:28 #1

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Irish bred greyhounds - 2006 & 2007




It is very hard to determine exactly how many greyhounds are bred, earmarked, trained and registered to race and as a consequence how many are weaned out, culled and killed before they reach the tracks.

Fortunately the Irish greyhound racing industry is semi-state owned and government funded and therefore liable under the Freedom of Information Act, unlike the UK racing industry which is privately owned. At least 80% of greyhounds licensed to race on British tracks are bred in Ireland and these numbers can give us a clear indication of the unnecessary over breeding simply to supply the UK market.

Sadly, the life of a greyhound is not worthy of recording individually in Ireland and we are told only the numbers of litters bred are recorded. Fortunately, we can still determine, on average, how many puppies are born from these litters as the British Greyhound Racing Board has stated - ‘bitches whelp a manageable sized litter of between six and ten’ - therefore, by the industry’s own admission, there are on average 8 pups per litter.

Further to a request under the Freedom of Information Act. The Irish Greyhound Board states there were 4,318 litters bred in Ireland during 2006, so a total of 34,544 pups were born out of 4,318 litters.

Of those 34,544 pups, the Irish Greyhound Board further sates, only 23,618 were earmarked some 16 weeks later and even more alarmingly – only 20,916 were given Identity Cards making them ‘eligible to qualify for racing’ the following year. This calculates to 13,628 being ‘unaccounted’ for - presumed culled as puppies because they wouldn’t chase or deemed too slow.

This does not mean that the 20,916 pups who were ‘eligible to qualify for racing’ went on to contest a race, as many thousands will not have ‘made the grade’ during trials or having performed poorly in just one or two races will have been considered of no commercial value and disposed of.

The semi-sate owned Irish racing industry benefit from many EU grants and subsidies available for basic training and breeding, such as the Farms Diversification Scheme
Ireland's National Development Plan - Greyhound Industry
Greyhound Skillnet


Ironically in this leaflet, promoting grants for breeders under the Alternative Enterprise Scheme – it actually states ‘Presently, there is an oversupply of greyhounds in Ireland’
Tegasc Greyhound grant


The situation whereby 13,628 greyhounds are culled simply because they have become a fiancial liability in a highly profitable industry is ethically wrong. To provide EU grants and subsidies for the breeding of these puppies – paid for by other member states - is fundamentally AND ethically wrong.


To view the FOI response,please click here
Irish bred litters - 2006 & 2007 - click on image to enlarge

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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 17:52 #2

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I wonder if greyhounds would exist as a breed of dog if they didn't serve a function or as an entertainment for some people?

Would most dogs exist if they didn't serve a purpose for some people?

I am not excusing any harm or cruelty carried out on these dogs by any means.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 18:06 #3

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Alot of animals breeds wouldn't exist if it wasn't for our need to eat wear pet and polish.

Edit; Also alot still would exist if it wasn't for our need too.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 18:19 #4

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MrsGood wrote:
Alot of animals breeds wouldn't exist if it wasn't for our need to eat wear pet and polish.

Edit; Also alot still would exist if it wasn't for our need too.

Agreed Mrs­Good

It's generally motivated by greed isn't it this form of animal eugenics.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 18:21 #5

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humanspirit wrote:
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Alot of animals breeds wouldn't exist if it wasn't for our need to eat wear pet and polish.

Edit; Also alot still would exist if it wasn't for our need too.

Agreed Mrs­Good

It's generally motivated by greed isn't it this form of animal eugenics.

Greed, yeah thats a word that sums up power and ego in one word. Sweet :thumbup:
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 20:18 #6

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I don't think there's anything wrong with racing dogs, but the way these dogs are treated - kept in cages most of the time, whipped & discarded when they pass their peak is appalling.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 20:37 #7

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The poor things are just a way for them to make money. :(

You'd think breeding dogs would done by people who, oh I dunno, liked dogs.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 20:45 #8

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Am i correct in believing animals such as greyhounds,pets etc in legal terms have no intrinsic value in the eyes of the law?

ie If somebody ran a greyhound or pet over in a car they couldn't be prosecuted for the death of the animal?
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 21:25 #9

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Not sure but i do know horses have right of way over motor vechiles, or at least they did. So if you go past a horse and it boots your car there's not alot you can do about it. This actually happened when i was in a string once and the poor bloke had to pay for his own car damage.
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 22:20 #10

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hugorune wrote:
The poor things are just a way for them to make money. :(

You'd think breeding dogs would done by people who, oh I dunno, liked dogs.

Unfortunately money talks. Its voice more evil than Vader.
I've just been looking after a former racing Greyhound that has been abused. Lovely dog, but very timid. Was a winner in his day... 40mph!!!
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 22:24 #11

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humanspirit wrote:
Am i correct in believing animals such as greyhounds,pets etc in legal terms have no intrinsic value in the eyes of the law?

ie If somebody ran a greyhound or pet over in a car they couldn't be prosecuted for the death of the animal?

Not sure about that. you can get them insured as a form of 'property' possibly so it could come under criminal damage.
Just speculating..
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Re: Greyhound Racing 10 Nov 2012 22:46 #12

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Am i correct in believing animals such as greyhounds,pets etc in legal terms have no intrinsic value in the eyes of the law?

ie If somebody ran a greyhound or pet over in a car they couldn't be prosecuted for the death of the animal?

Not sure about that. you can get them insured as a form of 'property' possibly so it could come under criminal damage.
Just speculating..

I was thinking along the same lines,so in theory a person could go out of their way if inclined to kill someones pet for example and it would be classed as criminal damage,doesn't really sound right on the ears :giz .
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Re: Greyhound Racing 11 Nov 2012 16:55 #13

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humanspirit wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
Am i correct in believing animals such as greyhounds,pets etc in legal terms have no intrinsic value in the eyes of the law?

ie If somebody ran a greyhound or pet over in a car they couldn't be prosecuted for the death of the animal?

Not sure about that. you can get them insured as a form of 'property' possibly so it could come under criminal damage.
Just speculating..

I was thinking along the same lines,so in theory a person could go out of their way if inclined to kill someones pet for example and it would be classed as criminal damage,doesn't really sound right on the ears :giz .

If it's shown to be with intent or malicious it would come under the animal cruelty act which is a maximum year in prison or £20k fine.
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