Gilly, there seems to be a bit of an issue here whether Saville was involved with the masons or not, and also a certain reluctance to even contemplate/discuss the possibility because that might put a slur upon the masons as being somehow complicit in peadophilia/child abuse.

The fact that Saville was involved with masonry at some level doesn't necessarily mean that anyone is implying (not me anyway) that masons in general are peado's.

OK?

The man himself said he was mason ...........how much more proof do you need

mikey mikey wrote:
Why are you bringing my name into it mikey?

For the record.

As stated earlier, I have no affiliation or sympathies for masonry.
I'm not reluctant to discuss any aspect of their practice. If it were provable they were an organisation that enabled or promoted paedophilia I'd be one of the first to call for their trials and incarceration and their lodges to be shuttered permanently.

It's not unreasonable to ask for something concrete to base actions and reactions on though surely.

If some people are of the opinion that bastard was a mason, what helped form those opinions?

mikey mikey wrote:
What do any of the vids there have to do with israel?

It's your own forum and your responsible for it, right?

And I didn't.

Read the thread.

Apologies if Dawn dragged your name in. Sillly me.

And stupid me for attempting to stand up for Gilly's husband.

That whole underdog thing is gonna get me sooner or later.

feather wrote:
Other crap they've seen on forums, maybe gorilla99 has decided to do a piece on JS now instead of DI?

nuthing that rodin could not explain

exploiting this for political gain makes me vomit

let's face facts ......Jimmy Saville was a mason ,which is actually easy to establish if you look

dawnbreak wrote: In the Louis Theroux programme?

I am just about to spend the next hour watching and listening for that revelation.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu2udi_when-louis-theroux-met-jimmy-saville_news

I'll happily let folks know if I hear it.

oh just your last post mickey ....you is nasty

dawnbreak wrote:
He was a DJ but that does not mean DJs are nonces!

How many times can I say this?

I DO suspect Masons as I suspect any collusion of dodgy buggers at the top!

But THAT does not mean that everyday masons are INVOLVED!

Just as I am NOT IVOLVED with the nefarious practices of my own fkn governent!

dawnbreak wrote:
You've just said you can't prove any of it and now you says its easy to establish

dawnbreak wrote:
Well at least I didn't try to explai why Ranson should have thought about her job before the wlefare of absed children, as you seemed to have done.

And I can quote that shit.

You can't.

mikey mikey wrote:
You just did...and I quote....

And as for...

You know what mikey....it just might do. Because your 'poor victim' act is wearing pretty thin.

err I never dragged anyone's onto anything Mickey...#


Just ma up and realise you have pissed people off

You did and it is there: c.f. apology request.

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feather wrote:
Jesus, an hour long vomit fest

diamondgeezer wrote:
Just the other day I told Black Cloud (which one I don't know) to leave your name out of it but it geta kinda difficult to respond with impersonal pronouns.

They seem fixated: have a word, will you?

I am going my way, and you are you are going yours, right?