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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 05 Dec 2012 21:53 #461

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A live one. I'll wait to see the verdict of the court case before I comment. As long as the court case gets proper press coverage so that it's clear it was conducted properly.

It's damning though.

This paragraph is confusing...

The musician Gary Glitter and comedian Freddie Starr were arrested and bailed under Yewtree last month. BBC DJ Dave Lee Travis and a man in his 70s were arrested and bailed earlier in November as part of the operation classed as “others”.

Because the man in his 70's was the one alleged to be Rolf, and previous comment about it was that he'd been released but unlike the others, not on bail - suggesting he was off the hook, and possibly even being questioned in the capacity of a witness rather than a suspect. It's about time journalists started reporting things accurately. Many times you can read several articles published at the same time about an issue, and find a myriad of contradictions between them.

There is no conntradicition Gilly, these Paedophiles were arrested, and later given bail because of their old age.
An 84 year old paedophile was caught in a group here in Chile, and later they let him go , because he was an old man.
There's a paedophile who was caught in 1990 here in Chile, Dr. Spiniak, and is getting off because of having good conduct.
They behave well when they are with people of their own age, its when they are in front of children that they get excited,
and can't control themselves.
I think the law should be harder on paedophiles.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 06:30 #462

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The contradiction is that the one said to be Rolf Harris, just referred to in the article quoted above as a man in his 70's, was previously said to have been released without bail. Gadd, DLT & Starr are out on bail. Whereas this report is saying they were all bailed.

That's what I'm meaning Chand. So the first version gives the implication that there was insufficient evidence against Harris to pursue things further, or they were satisfied of his innocence, or maybe that he was not a suspect in the first place, but a possible witness.

I agree with you about toughening up on them. And I don't see why age is a factor. I don't know of any clause here that says you should get away with crimes you've committed if you're only caught once you've passed a particular age.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 07:59 #463

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Gilly wrote:
The contradiction is that the one said to be Rolf Harris, just referred to in the article quoted above as a man in his 70's, was previously said to have been released without bail. Gadd, DLT & Starr are out on bail. Whereas this report is saying they were all bailed.

That's what I'm meaning Chand. So the first version gives the implication that there was insufficient evidence against Harris to pursue things further, or they were satisfied of his innocence, or maybe that he was not a suspect in the first place, but a possible witness.

I agree with you about toughening up on them. And I don't see why age is a factor. I don't know of any clause here that says you should get away with crimes you've committed if you're only caught once you've passed a particular age.

What can I say, I think the same way that you do Gilly.
Laws are made by the Senate politicians, but it seems they have $old themselves to these paedoophiles in power,
since politicians will do anything for power for themselves.
You can see, there are lots of people who still respect the Vatican, in spite of all the Paedophilia that continues happening
there , and being discovered on a daily basis, the media keeps the people not only asleep, but snoring.
This news will be sunk with other news and people forgive and forget.
Most paedophiles are in places of power, judges ,lawyers, Police, masons, press,Royalty, Lords, ,Sirs, so they have a big protection network.
The law doesn't seems to apply to them.
Jimmy Savile , everything has been said abaout him because he is dead ,so its like beating a dead dog. But he received protection until he died at 84 years if age.
A lot of black mailing on all parts must be going on.
But this time people are not forgetting, and things won't be so easy for them.
Even if they are not fully punished, their reputation will be ruined , the truth will be known.
Time is NOT on their side.
People are looking in forums for news, since the press is not working,
One must take into consideration that it is not only the child abuse, it is also the fourth greatest busine$$ in the world,
so they do it for money , child for rent of all social clasess.
Something good has to happen, although we can't expect too much.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 13:29 #464

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Max Clifford was arrested a little while ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 13:51 #465

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BBC sports reporter Stuart Hall charged with three counts of indecent assault against young girls

The veteran BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall, 82, was tonight charged with three counts of indecent assault on girls aged between nine and 16 years old. :mad:

When asked whether the arrest was in any way connected with the Metropolitan Police’s Operation Yewtree investigation into hundreds of cases of alleged sexual abuse by the late Jimmy Savile and others, the Lancashire Police woman said: “I can tell you it isn’t.”

This really surprised me!
Surely not stuart hall....here come the belgians!

He's one of the last guys I'd have pegged tbh.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 13:58 #466

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Max Clifford was arrested a little while ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765
How many schlebs must be shitting themselves at the thought of the police crawling all over Cliffords files and computers?

I bet he can stick a few aces on the table for a plea bargain deal eh.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 14:06 #467

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I wanna know when this investigation will go beyond "household names" and get onto those who actually perpetuated such behaviour within media institutions.

Will the Chuckle Brothers heads have to roll first?
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 14:09 #468

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psketti wrote:
Max Clifford was arrested a little while ago.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20627765

:shtf:

That is going to precipitate a load more. This is hopefully the point where crack in the damn turns into it breaking.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 15:17 #469

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Arrests
One guy at DIF posted this (an etension of his avatar). thanks nick btw

It is like some sort of twisted advent calander :sadno:
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mikey mikey wrote:
Arrests
One guy at DIF posted this (an etension of his avatar). thanks nick btw

It is like some sort of twisted advent calander :sadno:
not showing for me mate.

Is this? ....

Arrests
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Arrests


Yours isn't showing but mine is.

Wierd :think:
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 15:28 #472

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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 18:19 #473

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I can't see neither one of them feather ,mikey.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 18:19 #474

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Neither are showing for me :conf:
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:think:

Same pic uploaded to photobucket and hosted from there...........

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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 18:39 #476

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Cheers feather...I see the sequence leads to No.10 :D
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 18:40 #477

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Hearsay, I know, but a bloke at work reckons his girlfriend was given the creeps by Hall when he persistently letched at her at some do or other. He also said Hall has a jolly TV persona that isn't visible in real life, where he just seemed like a self-satisfied, over-inflated ego.

I met quite a few minor celebs when I was younger. I wasn't impressed by the likes of Norman Collier (I can't even remember the others off the top of my head - some sports men who I wouldn't have known of anyway, & that actor who used to play Mike Baldwin in Coronation Street) as they had their own little entourage of minions fawning round them, laughing heartily at every unfunny thing they uttered.

But Les Dawson was funny. He kept following me around doing his Cosmo Smallpiece character. I was only about 18, so maybe with hindsight he was just being pervy really. I didn't think so though - he was just trying to make me laugh, and it worked. I liked him.
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Re: Jimmy Saville - Justice At Last? 06 Dec 2012 19:35 #478

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I've been listening to Stuart Hall's match reports for donkeys. :(

We shouldn't be too surprised. A lot of the accused were pretty big back in the 70s and the attitude toward women was a tad different from what I hope it is now.
Will any more famous sports reporters be 'helping the police with their enquires' soon. ;) :O


Max Clifford? Maggot. :)
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I never took to Stuart Hall...he was another one I just got odd vibes from. And he's also unbelievably annoying...that laugh from It's A Knockout "A.HA.HA.HA.HAAA A.HA.HA.HA".
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Max Clifford might be the one spill the beans to save his own skin so to speak.

Stuart Hall doesn't surprise me, the same way jimmie Savile didn't surprise me, and I'm not saying that simply because he is being questioned but he always gave me the creeps during 'We are the Champions'

It strange though because when I first heard it today I thought, not surprised , then 'but it was30+ years ago and they're all old what's going to be achieved by sending them to jail. This really confused me and last year I would having being baying for their blood so I'm unsure why that went through my mind?

I think perhaps it is now there is a new pedophile star from the 70/80's named or suggested every couple of days it is being normalized and is no longer 'shocking' coupled with the fact that nothing is happening to them anyway.

Plus when is the investigation going to start for the abusers who are currently in the media/music industry and government , probably never............we'll get fed a line of they have rounded up the offenders and that's it crisis adverted :bla:
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