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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 16:49 #1

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Russian president vows no discrimination but says gay people must observe law banning 'homosexual propaganda'

Vladimir Putin has said that gay people will be not be subjected to harassment at the Winter Olympics in Sochi, as long as they stay away from children.

Putin is currently in Sochi reviewing preparations for the Games, which begin in three weeks. During a meeting with some of the thousands of volunteers who will work during the Olympics, he was asked why their uniforms were rainbow coloured, given the recent Kremlin anti-gay initiatives.

"We do not have a ban on non-traditional sexual relationships," said Putin in comments reported by Russian agencies. "We have a ban on the propaganda of homosexuality and paedophilia. I want to underline this. Propaganda among children. These are absolutely different things – a ban on something or a ban on the propaganda of that thing."

Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law.

"We are not forbidding anything and nobody is being grabbed off the street, and there is no punishment for such kinds of relations," said Putin. "You can feel relaxed and calm [in Russia], but leave children alone please," said Putin.

Since the law on "homosexual propaganda" came into force last year, Russia's gay community has reported an upturn in homophobic violence and threats. Gay rights rallies are also banned in Russia, and there has been much discussion over whether athletes or spectators displaying rainbow flags or gay rights placards could be arrested during the Olympics.

Earlier this week, Putin said the Games would be held "without discrimination on any grounds". But he added on Friday that Russia was a traditional country, and refused to accept European values on sexual orientation, claiming that some countries were even discussing the legalisation of paedophilia. He declined to specify which countries, saying it was easy to find out about such things on the internet.

Putin said: "What, are we supposed to follow along like obedient lapdogs, towards whatever consequences await? We have our own traditions, our own culture. We have respect for all of our international partners and ask that they also respect our own traditions and culture."
www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/vl...er-olympics-children

What a tool. :facepalm:

Another reason why I'm pleased to see that the US is sending Billy Jean King as their representative.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:02 #2

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He probably gets hit on all the time when he's diving for pearls or guiding dodos or just relaxing in the river covered in oil. He will probably make billy Jean King straight.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:19 #3

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batou wrote:
He probably gets hit on all the time

I doubt it. He's not a child, after all.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:24 #4

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Fuck sake! :facepalm:
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:30 #5

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Answer me this abs. He is like a child in a mans body. Isn't that the exact opposite roles to homos?
FYI iran has none. All those muzzie rapists..nobody knows how that works out.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:45 #6

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batou wrote:
Answer me this abs. He is like a child in a mans body. Isn't that the exact opposite roles to homos?
FYI iran has none. All those muzzie rapists..nobody knows how that works out.

Eh? :D

If you mean is it that a gay man is more attracted, generally speaking, to masculine qualities - much like a heterosexual woman might be - then, yes.

Some folks like 'em smooth, hairy, rugged, skinny....all the usual stuff. The difference being, and something I don't think anyone has pointed out to dear, old, Mr Putin as yet, is that these are consensual 'adult' relationships and have nothing to do with paedophillia, which is quite a different issue...and can really only serve to be clouded further by his lumping together of the two.

I have no statistics to hand, but I presume the second issue he seems concerned about has little to do with sexual orientation. Again, some of his recent statements appear to be denying this fact either through wilful ignorance or just because that's how he thinks, and perhaps would prefer everyone else thought?

Doesn't make it so though, unfortunately for him.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 17:58 #7

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No I mean he is a child in a mans body as opposed to a gay man who would prefer to be inside a child.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 18:00 #8

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batou wrote:
No I mean he is a child in a mans body as opposed to a gay man who would prefer to be inside a child.

Quite possibly. :cool:
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 18:09 #9

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Much lost in translation me thinks......
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 18:26 #10

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Vladimir Putin has said that gay people will be not be subjected to harassment at the Winter Olympics in Sochi, as long as they stay away from children.


Does he think Gays are produced in a factory or something?

Gay people might have nephews,nieces etc or friends with children,is he banning them from associating with these people also?

It always fills me with confidence when the puppets are ignorant :roll:
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 17 Jan 2014 19:05 #11

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Just think this idiot has access to nukes
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 11:53 #12

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its a foreign country, our rules don't apply there, people wishing to go there have to obey their laws, same as any other country we may wish to visit, no matter whether we agree with those laws or not.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 12:09 #13

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Are all gays foreigners? It's not even about visiting, it's that homo sexuals in Russia deserve to not be looked on as pedophiles. I'll just mark you down as a potential pedi because of your penguin avatar ok?
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 12:23 #14

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Well I don't know what he's calling homsexual propaganda. Does he mean that they're being generous in not outlawing it, as long as it's hushed up, like a shameful secret?

Why should it still need to be stated that paedophilia and homosexuality are 2 entirely different things, and it's ignorant to link the 2?
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 12:48 #15

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lonewolf wrote:
its a foreign country, our rules don't apply there, people wishing to go there have to obey their laws, same as any other country we may wish to visit, no matter whether we agree with those laws or not.

So if you are gay and born there...?
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 12:54 #16

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I still say...lost in translation....with his international popularity way above Obama's since the Syria thing at the end of last year and his stance on Iran....they are going to try discrediting him any way they can.

I see it as a straight forward case of him not wanting the Olympics turned into a political soap box if you will, for gay rights when there will be thousands of children attending, many of whom will be far too young to understand the gay rights issues. He is just trying to protect them....and quite frankly I support him in that...kids are confused enough these days as it is.

This is NOT some sort of homophobic rant on my part btw before anybody jumps on my back. If it wasn't the gay rights issue it would have been the Chechens or something.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 13:09 #17

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I believe Putin was talking about people visiting Russia for the Olympics, not about gay Russians themselves, although I suppose if someone is gay and living in Russia then they have a problem, same as gays living in the UK in the 50s.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 13:22 #18

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lonewolf wrote:
I believe Putin was talking about people visiting Russia for the Olympics, not about gay Russians themselves, although I suppose if someone is gay and living in Russia then they have a problem, same as gays living in the UK in the 50s.
I can't really disagree with this. It's hard for the US to take a high handed attitude to Putin's comments, daft though they are, considering they had open apartheid just a few decades ago (and the country remains deeply divided in every conceivable way to this day). Similarly, homosexuality was only decriminalised in Britain in 1967, and it's still pretty much frowned upon in most of the country in all honesty, so I don't exactly feel 100% comfortable in asserting that the Anglo-American world is some sort of tolerant libertarian paradise compared to the evil Russia.

That said, Putin is a cunt.
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 13:27 #19

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Earlier in June, Mr. Putin signed yet another antigay bill, classifying “homosexual propaganda” as pornography. The law is broad and vague, so that any teacher who tells students that homosexuality is not evil, any parents who tell their child that homosexuality is normal, or anyone who makes pro-gay statements deemed accessible to someone underage is now subject to arrest and fines. Even a judge, lawyer or lawmaker cannot publicly argue for tolerance without the threat of punishment.

www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/opinion/russi...i-gay-crackdown.html

Hmm
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Vladimir Putin: gay people at Winter Olympics must 'leave children alone' 18 Jan 2014 16:17 #20

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He is just trying to protect them....and quite frankly I support him in that...kids are confused enough these days as it is.

Protect them from what?

You really have to ask yourself how they get so confused in the first place, imo. The whole sexuality thing isn't rocket science, though there do appear to be very many 'opinions' on the matter. An issue isn't 'wrong' until a grown up points it out as such. This is how children interpret the world around them and form their earliest judgements.

It'd be nice if it wasn't something that required legislation, but it apparently is. It'd also be nice if all those visiting and taking part in the games were able to just be who they are too.

In this regard, I don't think this just another opportunity to turn this event into a political soap box, though there will doubtless be those that use it to those ends. This is about treating humans - all of them - with the dignity and respect that is their birthright, regardless of what part of the planet they were born on.

If we have to go down this road, these are 'human' rights, not 'gay'. In much the same way a heterosexual person might be a little pissed off were they to visit my own, private island, where the law strictly states that you're not allowed to touch your partner in any way that may be construed as 'intimate' or talk about anything involving straight relationships - especially if there are children within 100 yards - or face imprisonment/fines.

Though there would be no children on my island, as I loathe them.

Anyway, I've no interest in the games and no desire to visit the country any time soon, so...whatever. Stoopid hoomans. :roll:
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