Wise Haven wrote:
As you say, the Russians are no saints - and a point in their favour is they stuck to murdering their own (and lets not forget the UKraine in that body count) [...] .
What do you mean? The Muslim tartars (?)... aka; Turkish + aka; Muslims from the Otto expansionist empire? Are we really gonna have to go THAT far back? Are we having an adult discussion here or we’re just mucking about!? Just sayin’... dude.
Unless of course you meant the West-Ukrainian body count from
THEM siding up with the Nazis and then those pesky Soviets getting a little ticked off at them, ended up with their asses handed to them... either way. How relevant is this? To use the ‘west’ lingo; were/are they ‘combatants’ or not?,
that’s MY point.
Just for the record when I mean mass massacre, I mean, for example drones obliterating Pakistani wedding parties and the like, or what Americans-Cowards&Co, like to call: collateral damage*. You know? Agent Orange? Depleted Uranium? Shooting unarmed people in vans with kids for no reason... Ironically

[not] that Apache vid was actually named: *
Collateral Damage, and that’s precisely what landed Assange with a permanent residence at the Ecuador embassy. You know... that type of stuff..
^ That’s what I mean by: black and white mass murder in my book.
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Wise Haven wrote:
[...] Ultimately it seems to me that both blocs - West and East - are taking a time share approach to carving up the world and creating regionalism (a la Agenda 21) and Putin's current role seems to be that of the notional "good guy" [...] .
Good old, always relevant agenda 21! Bought to you by the axis of ‘clownship’, purveyors of fear, the likes of; Alex Jone, Jeff Rense, David -let me keep all your PVN donations nice and safe in my personal bank account - Icke.
Sure.
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Wise Haven wrote:
[...] I'm also keeping one eye on China - they haven't played their hand yet and I suspect they have a couple of trump cards they have been keeping close to their chests and just waiting for the right time to scoop the pot.
They already kind of ‘played their hand‘, you’re just not paying close enough attention.