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Ukraine gas and guess who. 24 Apr 2014 21:18 #481

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 24 Apr 2014 21:47 #482

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 24 Apr 2014 21:58 #483

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 24 Apr 2014 22:00 #484

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 25 Apr 2014 00:49 #485

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mikey mikey wrote:
Yep, WUB.

And thanks.

btw see that this was revealed to e fake by Consortium News in my post #474
Oh, yeah, sorry I haven't been following this much, it's too depressing. Even through not following at all, it's still been revealed to be complete bullshit.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 30 Apr 2014 21:02 #486

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But in recent days Kiev’s tentative grip on local law enforcement in the east appears to have slipped completely. In Luhansk riot police stood passively in a courtyard, kettled in by separatists armed with bats and hammers. “The regional leadership does not control its police force,” Stanislav Rechynsky, an aide to the interior minister in Kiev, told Reuters. “The local police did nothing.”

The police just switched sides :killinme:

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 30 Apr 2014 21:19 #487

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Hi Mikey,
I am getting so sad about this whole Ukraine thing.....it's not just there its everywhere....I'm feeling terribly sad and despondent tonight.
The world is very subtly going to hell in a hand basket.....I posted this tonight on a Ukraine thread over on you know where....
There have been pages and pages of copy and paste tweets about this whole situation.

Personally I have tried to keep an eye on the 'bigger picture' if you will. Look at what the left hand is doing while the right hand is keeping you distracted with what's going on between east and west in Ukraine. Whether there have been infiltrators ON BOTH sides is almost moot in my opinion.

At the end of the day, Ukraine will end up being the mess that we have seen left in Iraq, Egypt, Libya et all, regardless of which side is to blame.

Everything these days is interconnected and reliant on the other, from the ISS, to banking, to oil, to water, to land. The big boys are in this together. They could see the 'little man' getting pissed, so they do the obvious....cause dissent in the ranks and divide the majority.

As my old dad used to say....and he lived and saw most of this world with his 'travels' and travails during WWII from beginning to end...."at the end of the day, when you come full circle, there is no difference between Communism or Fascism, they are both engineered by the minority to control the majority for their own ends and interests, and to hell with us"

May I suggest, that we learn not to look at what IS happening....the dissection will come at the end of all this. But to realise what is really going on, not just in the Ukraine, but all over the planet....and wake up to the fact it is just history repeating itself but on a much larger scale?

See the bigger picture, join the dots. Soar like an eagle and see the bigger picture, not a mouse scrutinizing and nit picking the smaller stuff. There is a much bigger plan at play here.

Rant over and steps back for the flaming to start......which I wont engage in...so save your breath.

I'm feeling very low tonight......I'll just take myself off to Positano in my minds eye and imagine I'm enjoying a bottle of Valpollicela while the sun sets over Capri.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 30 Apr 2014 21:44 #488

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If you are feeling low, please keep in mind that at an exponential rate, everyday folks like you and me and millions of others are seeing through this crap.

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Ukraine gas and guess who. 30 Apr 2014 23:43 #489

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We were talking about this earlier in the context of creating reality. It's a desperate and sad thing that whilst so many of us are unconscious victims of both our own and other people's bollox, there will always be those who play the game so well that they create a reality that ensnares and entraps so many others. It's truly sad and the answer is here and now in all of us. But whilst we are each walking our paths and taking responsibility for our part in creating reality, i don't think we should be beating ourselves up if at times we feel a little low when contemplating the gravity of the current situation.
Have a hug, jane. :hug:
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 01 May 2014 00:06 #490

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dubmeup wrote:
We were talking about this earlier in the context of creating reality. It's a desperate and sad thing that whilst so many of us are unconscious victims of both our own and other people's bollox, there will always be those who play the game so well that they create a reality that ensnares and entraps so many others. It's truly sad and the answer is here and now in all of us. But whilst we are each walking our paths and taking responsibility for our part in creating reality, i don't think we should be beating ourselves up if at times we feel a little low when contemplating the gravity of the current situation.
Have a hug, jane. :hug:

Awwww dubs.....it's a shit innit?
That has to be the post of the year sir. I'm in baulks here man.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 01 May 2014 00:27 #491

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Last night, jane, half a dozen ponies and heavy horses found a way out of their field and took up residence outside our van. It took us about an hour in the dark to get the dominant ones roped and lead them all back in (they were out again by dawn). Today the dinner time clouds broke and my early evening maintenance stint was spent in sunshine near the lake with my good friend the black swan as my nearest company. Along with a dozen ducklings and their mum. Then i went and got some weed. :psketti:
I say this as a reminder of summat you know you know. Life on earth doesn't suck. The way we as a species live on earth sucks.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 01 May 2014 00:47 #492

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bigstory.ap.org/article/imf-board-approves-17-billion-ukraine
The International Monetary Fund board on Wednesday approved a two-year, $17 billion loan package for cash-strapped Ukraine as it seeks to regain stability following Russia's annexation of Crimea.

The IMF assistance pledged in March was hinged on economic reforms in Ukraine, including raising taxes, freezing the minimum wage and raising energy prices — all steps that could hit households hard and strain the interim government's tenuous hold on power.

"Urgent actions were necessary. Urgent decisions were taken by Ukraine and decisions now have just been taken by the IMF," IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde told reporters at the monetary fund's headquarters.

Ukraine's interim government finds itself caught between the demands of international creditors and a restive population that has endured decades of economic stagnation, corruption and mismanagement.

The IMF's decision to approve the $17 billion loan paves the way for Ukraine to receive $15 billion in additional assistance pledged by the World Bank, the European Union, Canada, Japan and other European entities, and $1 billion in loan guarantees from the U.S. that Congress recently approved. As part of the deal, Ukraine will be required to use some of the $17 billion loan to repay money it already owes the monetary fund.

Ukraine, a nation of 46 million, is in turmoil after Russia annexed Crimea. Russian President Vladimir Putin has massed 40,000 troops on Russia's border with Ukraine in what many fear is the first step to an invasion. Russia's actions have created a standoff with the United States and many European nations.

"Today's final approval for the $17 billion IMF program marks a crucial milestone for Ukraine," Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew said in a statement. "The IMF program, in conjunction with bilateral assistance from the United States and other nations, will enable Ukraine to build on the progress already achieved to overcome deep-seated economic challenges and help the country return to a path of economic stability and growth."

Lagarde said there were risks to the IMF loan but that Ukraine had demonstrated during the past few weeks that it can undertake reforms, such as ones addressing its exchange rate and the price of natural gas. "We believe that Ukraine has an opportunity to seize the moment," she said.

Asked about recent sanctions that the U.S. and European Union have imposed on Russia, Lagarde said only that the IMF was not designing sanctions, but was trying to improve the situation in Ukraine so that stability can be restored.

"We very strongly encourage the parties to negotiate to come to terms, and whether it's a question of the future price of gas, the payment of arrears — we very much hope the partners will find an agreement," she said.
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Ukraine gas and guess who. 01 May 2014 00:54 #493

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dubmeup wrote:
Last night, jane, half a dozen ponies and heavy horses found a way out of their field and took up residence outside our van. It took us about an hour in the dark to get the dominant ones roped and lead them all back in (they were out again by dawn). Today the dinner time clouds broke and my early evening maintenance stint was spent in sunshine near the lake with my good friend the black swan as my nearest company. Along with a dozen ducklings and their mum. Then i went and got some weed. :psketti:
I say this as a reminder of summat you know you know. Life on earth doesn't suck. The way we as a species live on earth sucks.

OK, stop it now my friend...you are right, and I would have been right in there with you helping as well you know. Bawling now.
But good bawling....thank you.
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