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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 02:38 #1

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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life'

An ancient virus has come back to life after lying dormant for at least 30,000 years, scientists say.

It was found frozen in a deep layer of the Siberian permafrost, but after it thawed it became infectious once again.

The French scientists say the contagion poses no danger to humans or animals, but other viruses could be unleashed as the ground becomes exposed.

The study is published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

Professor Jean-Michel Claverie, from the National Centre of Scientific Research (CNRS) at the University of Aix-Marseille in France, said: "This is the first time we've seen a virus that's still infectious after this length of time."

Biggest virus

The ancient pathogen was discovered buried 30m (100ft) down in the frozen ground.

Called Pithovirus sibericum, it belongs to a class of giant viruses that were discovered 10 years ago.

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These are all so large that, unlike other viruses, they can be seen under a microscope. And this one, measuring 1.5 micrometres in length, is the biggest that has ever been found.

The last time it infected anything was more than 30,000 years ago, but in the laboratory it has sprung to life once again.

Tests show that it attacks amoebas, which are single-celled organisms, but does not infect humans or other animals.

Co-author Dr Chantal Abergel, also from the CNRS, said: "It comes into the cell, multiplies and finally kills the cell. It is able to kill the amoeba - but it won't infect a human cell."

However, the researchers believe that other more deadly pathogens could be locked in Siberia's permafrost.

"We are addressing this issue by sequencing the DNA that is present in those layers," said Dr Abergel.

"This would be the best way to work out what is dangerous in there."

'Recipe for disaster'

The researchers say this region is under threat. Since the 1970s, the permafrost has retreated and reduced in thickness, and climate change projections suggest it will decrease further.

It has also become more accessible, and is being eyed for its natural resources.

Prof Claverie warns that exposing the deep layers could expose new viral threats.

He said: "It is a recipe for disaster. If you start having industrial explorations, people will start to move around the deep permafrost layers. Through mining and drilling, those old layers will be penetrated and this is where the danger is coming from."

He told BBC News that ancient strains of the smallpox virus, which was declared eradicated 30 years ago, could pose a risk.

"If it is true that these viruses survive in the same way those amoeba viruses survive, then smallpox is not eradicated from the planet - only the surface," he said.

"By going deeper we may reactivate the possibility that smallpox could become again a disease of humans in modern times."

However, it is not yet clear whether all viruses could become active again after being frozen for thousands or even millions of years.

"That's the six million dollar question," said Professor Jonathan Ball, a virologist from the University of Nottingham, who was commenting on the research.

"Finding a virus still capable of infecting its host after such a long time is still pretty astounding - but just how long other viruses could remain viable in permafrost is anyone's guess. It will depend a lot on the actual virus. I doubt they are all as robust as this one."

He added: "We freeze viruses in the laboratory to preserve them for the future. If they have a lipid envelope - like flu or HIV, for example - then they are a bit more fragile, but the viruses with an external protein shell - like foot and mouth and common cold viruses - survive better.

"But it's the freezing-thawing that poses the problems, because as the ice forms then melts there's a physical damaging effect. If they do survive this, then they need to find a host to infect and they need to find them pretty fast."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26387276
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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 02:47 #2

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Why not...we will have war and murder one end, and set the stage for a massive contagion that will have no vaccine but will likely be blamed on some unknown ancient virus like this...ensuring those who dont get killed in the mass conflict arising, will cop the contagion instead.... :roll:

Articles like this always seem to be setting the stage for further "discoveries" that will be highly toxic/deadly and means the blame is shifted from the control systems psychos and their biological/chemical labs like Porton Down and Los Alamos for what they have created and released....look at aids they blamed green monkeys getting it on with humans... :roll:
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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 03:12 #3

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They talk about worries that viruses might become active once exposed by the retreating permafrost, but they found this one 30meters down. It's obvious they went looking for something like this, and I doubt any virus would be dangerous if left 30m under the topsoil. So yep, looks like they are looking for a bio weapon.
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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 11:28 #4

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When they say "giant " how big we talking here ?
Was that pic taken with a camera phone for example
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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 14:02 #5

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cal wrote:
When they say "giant " how big we talking here ?
Was that pic taken with a camera phone for example


These are all so large that, unlike other viruses, they can be seen under a microscope. And this one, measuring 1.5 micrometres in length, is the biggest that has ever been found.


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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 04 Mar 2014 18:23 #6

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See...mofo's all laugh at me and my penchant for all things 'zombie', but you'll come knocking at the Abster's door one day very soon.

But I'll be safely ensconced within with my brutish, totally awesome, kick-ass, zombie-slaying boyfriend (who happens to be called Bats...no relation) and I'll be all like:

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What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

-Buddha
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30,000-year-old giant virus 'comes back to life' 05 Mar 2014 10:49 #7

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Goldenprince13 wrote:
Articles like this always seem to be setting the stage for further "discoveries" that will be highly toxic/deadly and means the blame is shifted from the control systems psychos and their biological/chemical labs like Porton Down and Los Alamos for what they have created and released....look at aids they blamed green monkeys getting it on with humans... :roll:
Yes, I've noticed articles in BBC magazine sections often seem to have some relevance to 'news' events a couple years later....

I mentioned this before on another forum, and intended to start a 'BBC magazine' thread just linking to the weird articles they put on there, for my own reminders really, but never got round to it :emb: Maybe I'll do it on SZ, if nobody would object.
Typical that I can't remember any of the most interesting ones now, but, eg. there was 'Will humans ever have sex with robots?' I mean, WTF?! :umm:
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