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Thirteen Days Later 03 Feb 2017 12:17 #1

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So it was thirteen days after Trump's inauguration that the administration began to ramp up the pressure on Iran.

www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/ir...hael-flynn-on-notice

Quite a subtle approach; I was expecting something within the first week.

I'm sure the fact that there are NATO troops on the Russian border is nothing to be concerned about:

www.rt.com/op-edge/375947-military-american-nato-eastern/

Personally, I'm enjoying the countdown to World War III. This scenario worked out really well in the film Threads, and it was super-entertaining in War Games.
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Thirteen Days Later 03 Feb 2017 16:20 #2

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What, the good old war drums are being pounded again? Not surprisingly.... Same old same old.
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Thirteen Days Later 03 Feb 2017 16:53 #3

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Just before the US election we had this little exchange of thoughts, WUB
sanctum.truth-zone.net/forum/today-s-new...mp.html?limitstart=3

As it goes, it seems Trump didn't need a um, call to arms as it were. His admin are just carrying on where the old one left off and from exactly where Clinton would have picked up...Why on earth does anyone vote?
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Thirteen Days Later 04 Feb 2017 00:27 #4

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So they're saying that war with China within the next 10 years is an absolute certainty.
They've got 10 years to fucking do something about stopping it and wasting millions of lives and productivity. But oh no.... just go to war with everyone, because that's the only way they know how to deal with stuff.
It seems likely the USA will become embroiled in some pretty big wars in the not too distant future.... they can't fight everyone at once! Nuclear war seems highly likely.
Can't say I'm looking forward to it, although I am quite tired these days, and our existence seems completely pointless anyway.
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Thirteen Days Later 04 Feb 2017 04:32 #5

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dubmeup wrote:
Why on earth does anyone vote?
It's hard for me to understand how anyone could possibly be taken in by Trump, but I suppose the general population is ultimately quite ignorant. It's probably equally bad that there have been massive protests against a perfectly fair vote when none of the people protesting would have blinked an eyelid if the result had gone the other way (exactly like Brexit), don't understand that the result makes no difference and are happy to give Obama a free pass for his dreadful presidency.
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Nuclear war seems highly likely.
It probably won't get that far there will likely be some really scary stand-off like the Cuban Missile Crisis, which admittedly did very nearly result in nuclear war! At this stage, the existing system is so powerful and people are so misinformed and misled by the media, I don't really see how there can be meaningful change. It might be possible in a pre-mass media society, but in this culture people are conditioned to see things a certain way and most people cannot break out of that programming. I know that you can make my family believe anything. If TPTB really wanted to they could have the majority of the population believing that the moon is made out of cheese, all they would need to do is relentlessly repeat this message over and over again and pretty soon people would believe it. Note that when Bush told people that he does that, the audience applauded!
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Thirteen Days Later 04 Feb 2017 11:22 #6

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I find it so damn ridiculous that somebody's saying that war with this and that is inevitable blaablaablaa.... If the situation is that bad but nothing has happened yet, why not start to negotiate how to deal with it without any insane loss of life. Instead they just go on buying more weapons and blowing the war Trumpet ever louder. The people who are running the show are clearly psychopathic. And nobody bats an eye about it. Business as usual.
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Thirteen Days Later 04 Feb 2017 21:35 #7

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
Why on earth does anyone vote?
It's hard for me to understand how anyone could possibly be taken in by Trump, but I suppose the general population is ultimately quite ignorant. It's probably equally bad that there have been massive protests against a perfectly fair vote when none of the people protesting would have blinked an eyelid if the result had gone the other way (exactly like Brexit), don't understand that the result makes no difference and are happy to give Obama a free pass for his dreadful presidency.
Space Bandit wrote:
Nuclear war seems highly likely.
It probably won't get that far there will likely be some really scary stand-off like the Cuban Missile Crisis, which admittedly did very nearly result in nuclear war! At this stage, the existing system is so powerful and people are so misinformed and misled by the media, I don't really see how there can be meaningful change. It might be possible in a pre-mass media society, but in this culture people are conditioned to see things a certain way and most people cannot break out of that programming. I know that you can make my family believe anything. If TPTB really wanted to they could have the majority of the population believing that the moon is made out of cheese, all they would need to do is relentlessly repeat this message over and over again and pretty soon people would believe it. Note that when Bush told people that he does that, the audience applauded!

Yeh I think the threat of nuclear war has largely been used to manipulate and control.... but as you say it's come close once or twice and it coming close is enough!
I just don't think the USA has any further avenues to explore and it will use the weapons to 'protect self interest' which will be when it no longer has the ability to sustain itself by any means.... particularly as it looks like they'll end up being at war with a significant portion of the world.
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