Is anyone else watching this? Its a druidic ritual. Literally, a druidic ritual - calling the corners of the four element, invoking the spirits of the four seasons and worshipping the sun king as a fiery face.

OMG! Cold play singing their Satan anthem (Viva la Vida), Rihanna and Jay Z joining in too!!

What do you suppose is the purpose of this, Mr Shiny, beyond theatrics? (Don't think I'm saying there isn't one btw - just curious as to what you make of it).

Another amazing firework display.

Gilly wrote:
I honestly don't know. This was a real eye-opener blending neopagan ritual with the oh so often cited occult musicians Jay Z and Rihanna. I'm really at a loss to know what this means but it was packed full of occult references! And I dont mean iffy maybe/maybenot not quite sure stuff but full-on no-holds barred not even remotely ambiguous occult stuff!

Where's Anthony65 gone? He'll have some interesting theory about it that I'd like to hear.

Pagan maybe...druidic...no.
Very Mad Max....right down to the chap who wore the long duster coat...like that tall skinny guy flying the gyrocopter in MMII


Jane

angelchemuel wrote:
Actually, druidic...yes. Emma Restell Orr was apparently a consultant on the closing ceremony (which she hinted at prior to the event) and the nature of corner calling was straight out of an OBOD ritual.

^ Everything from the OP, with the exception of the Sun King worship, is also commonly utilised in witch craft rituals.

More disturbing than it being "pagan" is that it wasnt remotely pagan but actually an act of ritual magic. The whole calling of the corners routine does not exist in "british ancient traditions" but is actually a creation of
Aleister Crowley as a form of ritual magic. With the inclusion of Rihanna and Jay Z in that situation I am actually gobsmacked by this (which I'd never taken seriously until now)!

I'm thinking it's the opening of a ritual - the summoning of the quarters etc is to seek assistance in the materialisation of some kind of occult 'request'. So the question then would be, what was the actual request?

I agree it's very odd indeed.

Gilly wrote:
Perhaps it was something to do with Jay Z, Rihanna and Coldplay and what they were singing about?

Mr Shiny wrote:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Restall_Orr
For those who are not familiar with her. Again I maintain...this is NEO druidry....thus in my book more commonly known as Paganism.
Corner calling is not exclusive to OBOD....Native Americans have been doing it for a lot longer than so called NeoDruids.
Even in mainstream religions ie Catholicism in this case, people call on the father, the son and the holy ghost. As to Aleister Crowley 'inventing' corner calling....mhm.......
Forgive me, but the whole Druid thing was what eventually led to the whole 'Angelgate' thing over on DI, and I have no intention of revisiting it.


Jane

Gilly wrote:
I agree very odd.....we had the flaming phoenix in the opening ceremony and the flamming greenman in this...both symbolically the rising from the ashes/rebirth/afterlife....


Jane

angelchemuel wrote:
Corner calling is common across neopaganism, especially in Wicca and Druidry. I said Druidry in the OP because the tone was far more Druidic thand Wiccan in this ceremony.

The Catholic practice bears no resemblance whatsoever to calling the corners, and Crowley is certainly the modern source of it (yes you can trace it back to hermeticism, but it gets to us via Crowley and Golden Dawn), as it is ritual magic and nothing to do with "Britain's ancient traditions" that the paralympic ceremony organisers claimed.

There is no denying that this was a neodruidic toned act of ritual magic involving infamous occult-connected musicians Jay Z and Rihanna. That virtually nobody is picking up on this is utterly staggering!

Mr Shiny wrote:
See..here we go...Neopaganism, neodruidry, paganism, wicca and druidry.
Corner calling...so we agree it existed before Aleister Crowley twisted it 180 degrees in the opposite direction? Shall we agree that the ceremony organisers are just as confused about what they were trying to do with 'Britain's ancient traditions' as many other folk who just bundle all the above 'sects' as one thing?
Of course the catholic father, son, holy ghost thing is akin to corner calling...it's just that the 4th 'direction' is never mentioned.

The bottom line is, anything 'neo' is just that...'new'. Based only on hearsay. Nothing of the original British ancient traditions was ever written down or ancient artefacts found.

Anyway, we digress a little from the opening ceremony in a way.....has anybody found any still piccys af the symbols that were on the floor...I can't find any, and I'd love a closer look at them. Lokking at seperate parts and investigating each could lead to a better 'classification' of where the whole ceremony fell.


Jane

OK, the man in the dustercoat is annoying the hell out of me....right down to where he formed a burning cross!
He is known as Jedidiah in MMIII....but I cannot find his name in MMII...apparently they are supposed to be 2 different characters!
Also, stumbled upon the fact that MMIV Fury road is due for release next year.


Jane

Ohoh...found the trailer for MMIV...the opening 10 seconds is spooky givem the closing ceremony...right down to the opening 'music'...remind anyone of those noises heard around the world?


Oh....and Max has gone all english with Tom Hardy in lead role and pretty sure I spotted Ray Winston playing what he does best...a nasty.....I'm off before my 'conspiracy head' blows up!


Jane

angelchemuel wrote:
It is part of a long history of hermeticism, and Crowley twisted nothing as regards it. He was the means by which neopagans came to it.

They should not have been, if Restell Orr was indeed a consultant. That said, neopaganism is full of people who deny its history (as coming from Crowley, via Gardner, rather than being an ancient tradition of this land).

No, its not remotely comparable, but I doubt that we are going to get anywhere on this point as I'm not interested in discussing the complexities of trinitarian theology.

Not strictly true, as we have the henges, barrows and the (understandably biased) writings of Caesar, but yes Neopaganism has nothing to do with the British Ancient Traditions that the paralympics claimed to be on about.

Yes, I noticed them as well. Almost Enochian looking!

I have to agree that summoning any Holy (or Unholy) Trinity isn't the same as calling the quarters - though both are called in some rituals.

I didn't watch the ceremony, so if anyone could dig up a picture of the symbols, as mentioned, that would be good.

I read something a few weeks ago, about someone in the USA who had paused their TV and caught some subliminal broadcasting that was only flashed very briefly (and inexplicably) on the screen. There were 2 separate sets of images shown on different occasions. Having noticed it once, this viewer had sat with remote control at the ready, paused, and photographed. Those symbols also looked Enochian and I'm wondering if there's any connection.