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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:45 #21

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Advertise the position with a closing date, wait for PM's, put it to a vote, and whover we hate the least gets the job, simple :chuckle:
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:47 #22

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Rick wrote:
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I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronyism

I don't understand what your position is.

The current format puts the current mods in a position to abuse their position/ be accused of abusing their position.

My proposal offers 'them' protection from such accusations as well as making the forum more community driven. To the casual observer atm it's not radically different to any other forum, it could be.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:48 #23

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I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

I can sort of see what you're saying there Rick actually :chuckle:

A forum moderator is like a boxing referee, but instead of in the physical, they keep the ego's of individuals under control, and not let one person's ego or will, dominate or belittled the other person, on a friend based forum, so if this is a friendly and considerate forum, why should the particular selection any one individual mod be a big issue?

See my point irre :beer:
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:49 #24

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Your 'episode' yesterday initiated the chat. I jokingly said that the only apparent clique on here is the "there's a clique and anybody who says there isn't is in the clique" clique, then I corrected myself by observing that the current format for selecting mods made the mods susceptible to becoming a bit of a clique.

Interesting that you encourage the current format which is open to being interpreted as a clique.

It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

I'm just taking the piss a bit on this thread, that's all :)
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:53 #25

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Rick wrote:
irrepressible wrote:
Rick wrote:
I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

I can sort of see what you're saying there Rick actually :chuckle:

A forum moderator is like a boxing referee, but instead of in the physical, they keep the ego's of individuals under control, and not let one person's ego or will, dominate or belittled the other person, on a friend based forum, so if this is a friendly and considerate forum, why should the particular selection any one individual mod be a big issue?

See my point irre :beer:

Lets not forget....mods have egos too.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:54 #26

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The whole thing is a constant pain in the arse :D
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:56 #27

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pheony wrote:
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irrepressible wrote:
Rick wrote:
I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

I can sort of see what you're saying there Rick actually :chuckle:

A forum moderator is like a boxing referee, but instead of in the physical, they keep the ego's of individuals under control, and not let one person's ego or will, dominate or belittled the other person, on a friend based forum, so if this is a friendly and considerate forum, why should the particular selection any one individual mod be a big issue?

See my point irre :beer:

Lets not forget....mods have egos too.

Very true, and in their replies to a thread topic it shows, but in their moderation duties it is of the utmost importance they remain neutral, even when dealing with a friend, if they can't do that, they don't need the job, plain and simple.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:56 #28

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The "issue" for myself rick is that I joined the SZ all those months ago thinking it was one thing, then it appeared to become another (at which point I spat my dummy). It was kind of decided by the community that SZ would have moderators, I was perhaps the most vocal in disagreeing with that...

I'm not having a pop at the mods, they do a good job. Namely they don't really get moddy on our arses. They are just posters that clean up the odd bit of shit really. The fact they don't have to do a lot of modding kind of backs up my view that there's no need for mods at the SZ tbh ;)

I've no issue with either of our current mods. I have a great deal of affection for both, I do see where Oi is coming from though.
Sometimes I can't fathom quite what the SZ is nowadays.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:57 #29

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pheony wrote:
Rick wrote:
irrepressible wrote:
Rick wrote:
I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

I can sort of see what you're saying there Rick actually :chuckle:

A forum moderator is like a boxing referee, but instead of in the physical, they keep the ego's of individuals under control, and not let one person's ego or will, dominate or belittled the other person, on a friend based forum, so if this is a friendly and considerate forum, why should the particular selection any one individual mod be a big issue?

See my point irre :beer:

Lets not forget....mods have egos too.

DG's post on this thread proving as such. I make a proposal I feel will benefit the forum as a whole, he (on some level) takes it as some form of slight whilst stating he had recognised this potential problem and/or corresponding thread from myself.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:57 #30

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It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

Oh fucking hell here we go again. :facepalm:
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:57 #31

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I remember wubs saying openly that he would like to be a mod not long after joining the forum. Whether or not he is still interested.... was he asked if he would still like to be a mod?
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:59 #32

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dubmeup wrote:
irrepressible wrote:

It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

Oh fucking hell here we go again. :facepalm:

No dub. Here we don't go. oi mentioned it first, I defended myself. Let it end right there okay :)
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 19:59 #33

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irrepressible wrote:
The whole thing is a constant pain in the arse :D

Not if you are a fan of a mild fiber favored laxative beverage, your system should not feel ass pain.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:02 #34

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Rick wrote:
pheony wrote:
Rick wrote:
irrepressible wrote:
Rick wrote:
I think DG should pick a potential mod, then ask the person in a PM if they want to be a mod or not then have that person as a mod if they accept, why should fellow forum members even have a say in the decision?
Clue me in please

I can sort of see what you're saying there Rick actually :chuckle:

A forum moderator is like a boxing referee, but instead of in the physical, they keep the ego's of individuals under control, and not let one person's ego or will, dominate or belittled the other person, on a friend based forum, so if this is a friendly and considerate forum, why should the particular selection any one individual mod be a big issue?

See my point irre :beer:

Lets not forget....mods have egos too.

Very true, and in their replies to a thread topic it shows, but in their moderation duties it is of the utmost importance they remain neutral, even when dealing with a friend, if they can't do that, they don't need the job, plain and simple.

So rather than put the mods in that position I propose the community takes full responsibility for it's moderation, albeit selecting and instructing the mods rather than complete self-moderation. :)

I personally feel an online forum that has a feel of community through responsibility will encourage more people to join that community as it will stand out as a model for moderation.
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:02 #35

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The "issue" for myself rick is that I joined the SZ all those months ago thinking it was one thing, then it appeared to become another (at which point I spat my dummy). It was kind of decided by the community that SZ would have moderators, I was perhaps the most vocal in disagreeing with that...

I'm not having a pop at the mods, they do a good job. Namely they don't really get moddy on our arses. They are just posters that clean up the odd bit of shit really. The fact they don't have to do a lot of modding kind of backs up my view that there's no need for mods at the SZ tbh ;)

I've no issue with either of our current mods. I have a great deal of affection for both, I do see where Oi is coming from though.
Sometimes I can't fathom quite what the SZ is nowadays.

You are a potential mod candidate right, I will recommend you if your not, you seem to have good sense
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:03 #36

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dubmeup wrote:
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It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

Oh fucking hell here we go again. :facepalm:
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I'm just taking the piss a bit on this thread, that's all :)

What will tomorrows lucky thread be?
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:04 #37

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Rick wrote:
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The "issue" for myself rick is that I joined the SZ all those months ago thinking it was one thing, then it appeared to become another (at which point I spat my dummy). It was kind of decided by the community that SZ would have moderators, I was perhaps the most vocal in disagreeing with that...

I'm not having a pop at the mods, they do a good job. Namely they don't really get moddy on our arses. They are just posters that clean up the odd bit of shit really. The fact they don't have to do a lot of modding kind of backs up my view that there's no need for mods at the SZ tbh ;)

I've no issue with either of our current mods. I have a great deal of affection for both, I do see where Oi is coming from though.
Sometimes I can't fathom quite what the SZ is nowadays.

You are a potential mod candidate right, I will recommend you if your not, you seem to have good sense

Objection!

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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:06 #38

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oioioi wrote:
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irrepressible wrote:

It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

Oh fucking hell here we go again. :facepalm:
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I'm just taking the piss a bit on this thread, that's all :)

What will tomorrows lucky thread be?

Let it go oi :)
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:10 #39

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irrepressible wrote:
oioioi wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
irrepressible wrote:

It wasn't an episode oi. In fact it was you and dub and the rest of the people who ganged up on me who had the episode :D

Oh fucking hell here we go again. :facepalm:
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I'm just taking the piss a bit on this thread, that's all :)

What will tomorrows lucky thread be?

Let it go oi :)

Don't "take the piss" on a thread seeking to potentially give the forum some forward momentum then, some people have been whining on about how stale it's got, I thought of a way to freshen it up, you "take the piss". :roll:
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Re: Proposing new mods 18 Sep 2012 20:11 #40

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You are a potential mod candidate right, I will recommend you if your not, you seem to have good sense

:D Strangely enuff, despite my well know views on the mod bastards I was sort of kind of asked if I wanted to do it a while back. I don't and won't. I'd like to see us all given mod powers. Ie taking full responsibility for what we post and encouraging others to as well. For the most part we have done and do do that (with the odd exception where someone says someone is being a dick and stuff ;) :emb: :D )
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