Black Cloud wrote:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_Personality_Disorder

dreadnaught wrote:
G'day.Dreadnought.

By "GOT IT", do you mean that they agreed with your point of view ?

Instead of casting aspersions about what others do or do not know, how about you cough up some information to back up your point of view. Denigrating others ("people who don't know what they are talking about") because they do not hold the same view as you is a straw man argument.

Apart from the uncle I made mention of in an earlier post, I have two friends that have psych degrees. I also dealt with a lot of mental health issues whilst in the police as there was a psychiatric ward in our patrol area. So I have knowledge based upon personal experience from varying perspectives. Yet instead of responding to questions asked and points raised, you attempt to belittle those with a differing point of view.

Anyway, here's a couple of documentaries that are beneficial to watch that relate to this topic ...


The Biology of Belief is a groundbreaking work in the field of New Biology. Author Dr. Bruce Lipton is a former medical school professor and research scientist. His experiments, and that of other leading edge scientists, have examined in great detail the processes by which cells receive information. The implications of this research radically change our understanding of life. It shows that genes and DNA do not control our biology; that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our positive and negative thoughts. Dr. Lipton’s profoundly hopeful synthesis of the latest and best research in cell biology and quantum physics is being hailed as a major breakthrough showing that our bodies can be changed as we retrain our thinking.

Website:
www.brucelipton.com/


A car sent him toppling off his bike, causing multiple fractures to his vertabrae. Several doctors said his only hope of walking again was to fuse some of the vertebrae in an operation that would leave him with a lifetime of pain and limited mobility.

But as a chiropractor, Dispenza knew enough about spinal health and his own post-accident physical state to take a remarkable risk: he refused the operation and, along with a careful therapeutic program, literally thought his way to healing. Nine months later, he was able to walk and function as well as he had before the accident, and he credits a large amount of that recovery to the power of his own mind.

This incredible experience spurred Joe on to learn about this most important tool that we all possess--the brain--and he passes that potent knowledge on to you. He explores how the brain learns, how it processes information, and, when it isn't stimulated enough by new experiences, how it can become addicted to comfortable, familiar patterns.

Every time we think a thought or feel an emotion, the brain sends chemicals throughout the body that reproduce that feeling, often giving us a physical reaction. Through prolonged repetition, self-limiting thoughts and feelings can become habitual--producing mindsets such as unworthiness and attracting negative experiences--yet we can still crave them, even when they don't feel good.

But all this can change--and Joe Dispenza will show you how to do it. Step by step, he'll walk you through the structures of the brain, how your thoughts and emotions become hardwired in the brain, how to recognize the patterns you want to change, and finally, how to create new, positive habits that will not only change your life, but also change you--into the person you've always wanted to be.

Website:
www.drjoedispenza.com/

good post I AM all I AM but you can't use the power of your mind to heal you if your mind is malfuntioning

dawnbreak wrote:
G'day Dawnbreak.

It's not the mind that is malfunctioning Dawn, it's the manner in which it is being used. That might sound pedantic to some, though it is true non-the-less.

The issue is that knowing how to utilise your mind for beneficial purposes is not something that is taught through the indoctrination (education) system. Small wonder, having free thinking individuals would negate the enslavement, which starts with the mind so that the physicality can be enslaved.

An easy example of how a positive mental attitude works is that of the placebo effect.

By the way, both documentaries are awesome and well worth sitting down to watch.

No, I AM ALL I AM , chemical changes happen in the brain , that is proven fact , and sometimes the best course of action for people facing chemical changes that make them act odd, or dive into depression or think about suicide could benefit from an input for pharmaceuticals.

Would you rather these people were left 'without help'

dawnbreak wrote:
G'day Dawnbreak.

Are you stating that the brain is the mind ?

Personally, I see no reason to add artificially man-made chemicals to the physicality for any reason whatsoever. There are copious amounts of naturally occurring substances that are beneficial to render pharmaceuticals and the 'side effects' that they cause to the scrap heap of idiotic ideas that man has instituted. After all, humanity has survived for almost it's entire history without man-made chemicals being ingested.

Firstly, if someone has a 'chemical imbalance' (however it is that this is 'diagnosed' / recognised), then it would be well to look at what such an individual is in-taking into their physicality that is causing such an imbalance. Shit in equals shit out.

Secondly ...


"At least 106,000 people die every year from adverse drug reactions.

A mere 6% of all adverse reactions are properly identified.

Most side effects are instead mistaken for new disease symptoms, leading to further drugging and unnecessary medical procedures, increasing the risk of death even further.

Most of these deaths are from expected adverse reactions, because they are an extension of the drugs' action.

The mortality rate for people between the ages of 45-64, who took their prescription drugs correctly, rose 90% in just five years."

As far as I am aware, these statistics are only from the USA.

Thirdly, man knows jack shit about the functioning of the brain at a chemical level, which makes claims of knowing which chemical cocktail to give a patient patently ridiculous.


At no point have I stated that anyone should be left without help. I simply do not see any pharmaceuticals as being helpful and would not recommend them to anyone.


Here's a few quotes that I collected a number of years ago relating to healing ...

"The cure of the part should not be attempted without treatment of the whole. No attempt should be made to cure the body without the soul. Let no one persuade you to cure the head until he has first given you his soul to be cured, for this is the great error of our day, that physicians first separate the soul from the body."
Plato

"And we have made of ourselves living cesspools, and driven doctors to invent names for our diseases."
Plato

"Doctors give drugs of which they know little, into bodies, of which they know less, for diseases of which they know nothing at all."
Voltaire

"Let food be thy medicine, and let thy medicine be food."
Hippocrates

"The physician should not treat the disease but the patient who is suffering from it."
Maimonides

"Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom."
Benjamin Rush, MD., a signer of the Declaration of Independence and personal physician to George Washington

"The doctor of the future will no longer treat the human frame with drugs, but rather will cure and prevent disease with nutrition."
Thomas Edison

"It's supposed to be a secret, but I'll tell you anyway. We doctors do nothing. We only help to encourage the doctor within."
Albert Schweitzer, M.D.

"What is impossible to see from the viewpoint of those who believe in cures is that the very symptoms the good doctors have suppressed and turned into chronic disease were the body's only means of correcting the problem! The so-called "disease" was the only "cure" possible!"
Dr. Philip Chapman - 1981

"What makes me so certain that the natural human lifespan is far in excess of the actual one is this. Among all my autopsies (and I have performed over 1000), I have never seen a person who died of old age. In fact, I do not think that anyone has ever died of old age yet. We invariably die because one vital part has worn out too early in proportion to the rest of the body."
Dr. Hans Selye

"The cell is immortal. It is merely the fluid in which it floats that degenerates. Renew this fluid at regular intervals, give the cells what they require for nutrition, and as far as we know, the pulsation of life can go on forever."
Dr. Alexis Carrell - Nobel prize winner

copious amounts of naturally occurring substances lol


So you'd rather someone abuses cannabis/hash and end up at a worm hole that thinks the only left is to kill themselves?

You sound like a person who was offered 'drugs ' and refused them , you possibly have a disorder yourself, but that is no bad thing

But please remember that there are forum members here 'who take drugs' to he quieten their mind and there is nothing wrong with that either

dawnbreak wrote:
Think you stumbled into a bit of a logical fallacy there dawn tbh.

well to be honest I can't be arsed with people who think smoking cannabis is the be all and end all and solved all problems.

there are too many people who's lives got fucked up, or ended prematurely due to this 'natural drug'

dawnbreak wrote:
G'day Dawnbreak.

Again, you are attempting to put words in my mouth. I have never stated than anyone should "abuse" any substance. This is another straw man argument.

If you (or anyone else) choose to take pharmaceutical drugs then that is your choice alone and has nothing to do with me.

I have the 4th edition of this book below, so if you'd like to know the 'side effects' of any particular pharmaceutical drug let me know and I'll post the 'side effects' ...



The Australian Drug Guide

7th edition
Jonathan Upfal

Every year up to 140,000 Australians are rushed to hospital due to medication errors and misunderstandings. So before you take any medication, make sure you know all the facts!

The new 2006 edition of The Australian Drug Guide brings you over 800 pages of up-to-the-minute information that could mean the difference between life and death for you or someone you know.

Over 600 drug profiles cover: what the drug is for, how it works in your body, how to take the drug, what to do if you miss a dose, how long before you can expect to benefit from taking it, severe and minor side effects, things you must tell your doctor before taking the drug, when you should not take the drug, chemical names and drug classes, all brand names and if a cheaper generic version is available, safety list for age, pregnancy, driving, alcohol, pre-existing conditions and interactions with other medications.

For each and every drug profile, Dr Jonathan Upfal has reviewed all the significant clinical studies and provided the results in plain English. Also included in this edition is a comprehensive guide to all the latest chemotherapy drugs - indispensable for cancer patients and their families who are at home between treatments.

If you value your health, you can't afford to be without this book. You'll find the answers to all your questions about the medicines prescribed for you and your family in The Australian Drug Guide. It's you and your family's "health insurance" in one easy-to-use reference.

www.blackincbooks.com/books/australian-drug-guide

Here's a sample ...

Fluoxetine

Brand name: Prozac 20

Anti-depressant, SSRI type

Side-effects
Mild: (dose-dependent, may disappear during treatment, see your doctor if troublesome or persistent)
Nausea (11%), loss of appetite (8%) with weight loss, diarrhoea (5%), dry mouth (3%), heart-burn (2%), altered taste (1%), wind (1%), vomiting (1%).

Difficulty sleep (7%), nervousness or anxiety (6%), drowsiness (5%), headaches (4%), fatigue (3%), weakness (2%), dizziness (2%), light-headedness (1%), blurred vision (1%), poor concentration (1%), muscle stiffness or "restless legs".

Tremor (5%), excessive sweating (5%), hot flushes (1%).

Frequent passage of urine (1%).

Diminished sex drive (both sexes) or delayed ejaculation in males.

Mild rash (1%), itching (1%) or hives, flu-like symptoms or fever (1%): see your doctor promptly.

More Serious: (all rare: see your doctor immediately or seek emergency care)

Allergic reaction with severe skin eruption or itching, swelling of lips, face or tongue, wheezy breathing or tightness in the throat, collapse.

Sudden switch of mood to one of excitement, overactivity, talkativeness and uninhibited behaviour.

Agitation, delirium, confusion, nightmares, fits.

Loss of appetite, lethargy, cramps, confusion due to low blood sodium.

Fever, joint pains, fluid retention with swollen ankles may occur as a delayed form of allergic reaction.

Laboured breathing or shortness of breath due to lung inflammation, inflammation of the liver with jaundice; passage of blood-stained urine, altered urine volume.

Complication this drug may induce
Epilectic fits, in those at risk.

So I AM all IAM everyone just needs to think there selves happy and all health issues and injustices will disappear........war will stop, poverty will stop and we'll all live happily ever after?

and just for the record coz you've pissed me off .......do you even know what a straw man argument is?

Because if you do you'll have the brains to know my replies to you do not consist of one

dawnbreak wrote:
G'day Dawnbreak.

Again, for the third time, I haven't stated that, "smoking cannabis is the be all and end all and solved all problems", and it is a straw man argument ...

A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[3] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

AND, no one, NO ONE has died from overdosing on cannabis. Scientists have concluded that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much cannabis as you needed to get stoned.

So please explain how anyone's life "ended prematurely due to this 'natural drug'".

dawnbreak wrote:
It's your chosen emotional state and has nothing to do with me. YOU have chosen to be pissed off and it is YOUR responsibility, not mine. By attempting to blame me for your emotional state, you are simply dis-empowering yourself.

I do beleive that in some instances mental health issues can be sorted without drugs, but if mental illness can exist in animals then it sure as fuck can exist in humans, example;million pound race horse bloodlines so brilliant and cost such a fortune, from before day one, treated like royatly, no nasty shit used to get broken in real basic stuff then me on the fuckers back, i stayed put, rideable that day. I was reared on if you fell of you got finned, so i never ( almost) fell off even if the horse threw it'self on the ground. I never used whips ect either. Well this horse would do anything to kill any-one and just walking towards his door would be met with him rearing up over the door and lunging full effing force at you. Ok one day i got dumped; fell off him, for a split second i saw him look at me, and the next he was hammer the shit outta me, everyone got in the way of him on their horses, broke my arm etc, but still rode the next day, (i'm tough). Had a dog along the same lines, had it all it's life no bad treatment, saw my top dog asleep and bit heavily into his skull blinding him. Some times things are born lets say not quite right. Just input

dawnbreak wrote:
Thing is dawn you're confusing the recreational smoking of cannabis with it's medicinal use. Perhaps have a look into things like Rick Simpson's oil. It might help you understand that cannabis isn't all about getting wasted.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:

Fantastic logic........you can can run about like an arsehole but it is the persons who thinks your an arseholes fault

dubmeup wrote:
G'day Dubmeup.

Juicing it raw has amazing benefits as well mate ...


Cannabis provides highly digestible globular protein, which is balanced for all of the Essential Amino Acids. Cannabis provides the ideal ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 Essential Fatty Acids. Critically, cannabis is the only known source of the Essential Cannabinoid Acids. It is clear that all 7 billion individuals would benefit from access to cannabis as a unique functional food.

Cannabis International seeks to assemble a coalition of countries to propose an amendment to Convention One Treaty to remove cannabis. Then, to develop a broad profile ruderalis type plant that is hardy across a wide range of environments and agricultural skill level. Cannabis International will partner with Luxembourg for high volume seed production I order to provide 1 billion pounds of seed to those subsisting on $1/day.

Cannabis International recognizes the need for reagent grade standards so that labs can focus on the synergistics of the complex interactions of 525 molecules, comprised of 80+ cannabinoids, a unique array of Terpenes, balanced Essential Fatty Acids and the uniquely digestible plant protein Edestin.

Cannabis International is currently conducting and presenting scientific studies on the Endogenous Cannabinoid System and Phytocannabinoids. CI’s research focuses on fresh, raw cannabis. CI works to preserve strains with unique medicinal profiles and educate patients other health professionals, courts, elected officials, and to restore safe access to cannabis worldwide in the name of public health.

Here you'll find peer-reviewed scientific articles about the latest research, updates on Cannabis’ ever-changing legal status in the US and elsewhere, interviews with important figures, practical advice for using Dietary Cannabis, Global Intellectual Property pertaining to cannabis, self directed internet study courses ranging from 30 minutes to 300 hours.

Due the desperate need for additional knowledge in order to make informed decisions in Washington, Cannabis International supports Dr. William Courtney’s campaign efforts to run for House of Representatives and hope you will consider supporting the expenses & activities of running for office in a 400 mile long California North Coast District 2.

www.cannabisinternational.org/

dawnbreak wrote:
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent, instead of against the opponent's argument.[1] Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as an informal fallacy,[2][3][4] more precisely an irrelevance.[5]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem