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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 00:47 #261

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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 00:53 #262

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look i saw this on 4chan
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I'm not sure if what is written here is accurate or not, Bats, but this is the number two headline on the BBC at the moment (and something that is of absolutely minimal interest to most British people):
President Barack Obama has lashed out at senators who blocked a bipartisan plan to support expanded background checks on firearms.

"This was a pretty shameful day for Washington," Mr Obama said at the White House. "But this effort is not over."

The plan was blocked on a 54-46 vote, six votes short of the 60-vote hurdle needed to clear the chamber.

Gun rights groups hailed the defeat of the measure, arguing it would violate the right to bear arms.

The proposal, put forward as an amendment to a broader gun bill, sought to widen the current checks to include online and unlicensed gun show dealers.

President Barack Obama is campaigning for tighter gun laws after 26 people died in a school shooting in Connecticut in December.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22194299

It will be interesting to see how things pan out. If they do pan out as stated in that post, no-one can say that it wasn't predicted by numerous people.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 01:23 #263

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The FBI says there is no link between the Ricin and the bombs. A man is in custody I believe for the Ricin mail that was sent to a number of politicians including Obama.
The FBI has an image of the suspect and is working to find who he is etc. Apparently they won't release the picture unless they fail to find him on their own. This makes sense to me as they won't want to alert the suspect that they are on to him.


Sorry no links but I am on my phone.


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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 12:01 #264

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Watch these white Christian Conservatives wring their hands over Right Wing extremism and turn the Boston Marathon into an attack on Obama and media:
Last Edit: 18 Apr 2013 12:02 by Mike.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 12:40 #265

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Mike wrote:
Watch these white Christian Conservatives

Actually it is more to do with their Koch and Murdoch connections

PJTV aka PJ Media aka Open Source Media was set up by the founder of Little Green Footballs (a pro-Bush blog during the previous admin) .

Amongst their luminaries are members of The American Enterprise Insitute (neo-con think tank) and FOX News.

In fact,
On October 29, 2005, two members of Pajamas Media's Editorial Board, Michael Barone and David Corn, appeared together on Fox News as journalists providing opposite viewpoints without identifying their shared business relationship in Pajamas Media.

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pajamas_Media
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 17:02 #266

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The guy in that video is a definite candidate for an MKultra project gone awry.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 17:15 #268

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Mike wrote:
The guy in that video is a definite candidate for an MKultra project gone awry.

I wouldn't let him babysit.
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Mike wrote:
The guy in that video is a definite candidate for an MKultra project gone awry.

His outfit comes of kinda spooky with his content, i won't be watching any more of his videos, one and done.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 20:49 #270

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Maybe now some people will get my previous point in perspective.

gawker.com/5994955/the-posts-person-of-i...+school-track-runner
"BAG MEN," the New York Post's front cover brays this morning, underneath a photo of two Boston Marathon spectators. "Feds seek these two pictured at Boston Marathon." After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?
No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that—the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.

As we documented yesterday, a large and active community of amateur detectives, dedicated to the close examination of photographs of the scene, emerged on the link-sharing site Reddit (and elsewhere) in the aftermath of Monday's bombing. Their efforts were going about as well as you might imagine, which is to say, not very well—lots of MS-Paint circles and lots of near-baseless speculation.

Also on the topic if clearing names.
www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comme...idence_at_each_site/
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One comment I saw that I have to agree with is that people should not have to prove that they are innocent.
No one ever has to prove their fucking innocence. Every person in every fucking one of these pictures is innocent until there is enough evidence to prove guilt. It doesn't work the other way around.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 21:08 #272

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Mike wrote:
The guy in that video is a definite candidate for an MKultra project gone awry.

He is neither ordained nor is his name Nathaniel: He is very popular over on Stormfront and with Makow/Rense NaNs like rodin.
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mikey mikey wrote:
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The guy in that video is a definite candidate for an MKultra project gone awry.

He is neither ordained nor is his name Nathaniel: He is very popular over on Stormfront and with Makow/Rense NaNs like rodin.

It's hard to be considered a conspiracy theorist anymore because there is so many crazy fringe elements to this genre.

For instance i'm starting to become anti-gun, but most conspiracy theorist will say "Obama want's to take our guns".
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 21:50 #274

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i-baster wrote:
Maybe now some people will get my previous point in perspective.

I'm curious to know which of your points you think people did not get in perspective.

gawker.com/5994955/the-posts-person-of-i...+school-track-runner
"BAG MEN," the New York Post's front cover brays this morning, underneath a photo of two Boston Marathon spectators. "Feds seek these two pictured at Boston Marathon." After its embarrassing performance on Monday in the aftermath of the marathon bombings, has the Post redeemed itself by scooping the first, much-discussed photos of the suspects?
No. As CBS' John Miller reports, neither man is likely to be a suspect in the bombings, and these are not the pictures of the possible suspects that authorities plan on releasing. But I didn't need John Miller to tell me that—the "persons of interest" in the photos are two local kids who had already been checked out by Reddit and other message-board "crowd-sleuthing" efforts yesterday, and found to be a incredibly unlikely suspects.

As we documented yesterday, a large and active community of amateur detectives, dedicated to the close examination of photographs of the scene, emerged on the link-sharing site Reddit (and elsewhere) in the aftermath of Monday's bombing. Their efforts were going about as well as you might imagine, which is to say, not very well—lots of MS-Paint circles and lots of near-baseless speculation.

That's a pretty interesting article if you read it all, because the next sentence in it, which you chose not to post, states,,,

"But thanks to their ability to do really basic internet detective work, they managed to figure out pretty quickly that the guy in the blue track jacket almost certainly isn't a bomber", etc.

So despite the front page newspaper statement that they were wanted for questioning by the FBI, people in those communities had already satisfied themselves that they are, "Incredibly unlikely suspects". Good job some people don't take the media's word for everything then.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 22:10 #275

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I am suddenly reminded of the cute porcupine saying quite clearly "get the fuck off my pumpkin" "this is MY pumpkin".

Well he is loveable rodent with an orange bowl of yummy.

The authorties are kinda "butt out!"

Now I can see that there is a balance that i-baster is calling for between witch hunts and "we ask the public to come forth with ANY information".

We all remember pedeatricians getting mobbed by idiots.

There will always be mobs. Life of Brian et al.

However, many posters have become bloggers and some of them bloggers have become pundits.

Maybe, if more time was spent dismissing ill-informed pundits and crappy journos that got their job through nepotism and less time telling the public, who are trying to be helplful that "they are not QUALIFIED" we could actually make a contribution instead of being labelled "Nutty".

Maybe it is all about pumpkins
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 18 Apr 2013 22:11 #276

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My points were regarding the singling out of individuals in a crowd. I believe it is dangerous and unfair to those individuals. They might be unaware that their image is being passed around the internet as suspicious. They do not have the same chance to clear their names.

I didn't choose not to post the last section based on its content. That makes no sense since it is part of the point I was posting it. The New York Post story is actually bogus I believe. I don't think feds are looking for that guy at all. It was part of a witch hunt started by people sharing images of 'suspicious' spectators.
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Surveilance is here to stay. Whether itis in the handsof the few or the many, that is the new fact.

Or throw your camera-phone away
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Integrity is also here to stay I would like to think, not in everybody but in some of us.
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i-baster wrote:
Integrity is also here to stay I would like to think, not in everybody but in some of us.

I agree but where, in your opinion, does that relate to what I posted. Specifically.

Kindly asked
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i-baster wrote:
I believe it is dangerous and unfair to those individuals.

I totally agree.

OTOH is that not the nature of crime? Is not the innocent butler suspected?

Aren't we all suspects of something?

Do we leave this in the hands of the experts on faith?
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