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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 03 May 2013 18:42 #481

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Gilly wrote:
RT don't appear to be agreeing with the official line here...

Seeing the military going door to door like that is just terrifying, especially when you know the mentality that is fostered in these people, particularly in the US.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 04 May 2013 00:02 #482

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^Most important thing i took from the video is that every two day's more people die from cigarettes than 911?

I'm certainly more worried about second hand cigarette smoke then terrorism, economic doom and martial law all combined.
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^Most important thing i took from the video is that every two day's more people die from cigarettes than 911?

I'm certainly more worried about second hand cigarette smoke then terrorism, economic doom and martial law all combined.

Is second hand smoke such a major health issue?

I'd love to see the evidence to back that up.
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Where are you even getting exposed to second hand smoke, since people can't smoke in enclosed public places any more?

But hey, if you consider that to be a more pressing issue than the outrageous amounts of money spent on the fight against home-manufactured terrorism, the motives behind it, the linked erosion of civil liberties, deceit and treachery by the authorities to sway public perception, the framing of gullible idiots, the maiming & deaths of innocent bystanders etc etc - feel free to fret about cigarettes. You'd best have a bit of a panic about slipping in the bath tub too, while you're at it.
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Every two day's more people die in America from cigarettes than 911?

Cigarette makers are the real terrorist...

What more can i say...
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 04 May 2013 16:16 #486

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.......... wrote:

What more can i say...

Hopefully, not much. :gleek:
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.......... wrote:
Every two day's more people die in America from cigarettes than 911?

Cigarette makers are the real terrorist...

What more can i say...

He's right.

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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 04 May 2013 20:55 #488

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Every two day's more people die in America from cigarettes than 911?

Cigarette makers are the real terrorist...

What more can i say...
I'm fairly confident that these people aren't dying from second-hand smoke!
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 05 May 2013 04:14 #490

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
.......... wrote:
Every two day's more people die in America from cigarettes than 911?

Cigarette makers are the real terrorist...

What more can i say...
I'm fairly confident that these people aren't dying from second-hand smoke!

www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/secondhandsmoke.html

www.smoking-facts.net/Second-Hand-Smoking-Facts.html
no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13
www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact...htm?mobile=nocontent
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i-baster wrote:
www1.umn.edu/perio/tobacco/secondhandsmoke.html

www.smoking-facts.net/Second-Hand-Smoking-Facts.html
no-smoke.org/getthefacts.php?id=13
www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact...htm?mobile=nocontent
I would seriously questions some of those so-called 'facts'. However, I didn't say there were no negative effects to second-hand smoke, I said that several thousand people don't die every day due to it. Even the most extreme anti-smoking propaganda wouldn't claim this.
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 05 May 2013 11:11 #492

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I would seriously questions some of those so-called 'facts'. However, I didn't say there were no negative effects to second-hand smoke, I said that several thousand people don't die every day due to it. Even the most extreme anti-smoking propaganda wouldn't claim this.

Agreed.

Besides which, it's straying right off the point raised, ............., which is the comparison between other dangers and genuine terrorism, which the authorities have had no (known) hand in staging, and the fact that that's virtually negligible and therefore doesn't warrant the anti-terrorism expense , focus, fear-mongering & propaganda.
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Gilly wrote:
Besides which, it's straying right off the point raised, ............., which is the comparison between other dangers and genuine terrorism, which the authorities have had no (known) hand in staging, and the fact that that's virtually negligible and therefore doesn't warrant the anti-terrorism expense , focus, fear-mongering & propaganda.
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Nearly $800 billion expenditure, and rising, cant stop some kids with some ball bearings. Can spy on everyone in the United States on a massive scale, though.
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You can question facts but with no facts you are just playing fox news " some people have said" games.


The fact(you can of course question or doubt) is that heart disease and cancer are way out in the lead as top two causes of death in the United States. Terrorism is low on the list of causes of death. Not sure why this is the new topic though.
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^Indeed...
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i-baster wrote:
You can question facts but with no facts you are just playing fox news " some people have said" games.


The fact(you can of course question or doubt) is that heart disease and cancer are way out in the lead as top two causes of death in the United States. Terrorism is low on the list of causes of death. Not sure why this is the new topic though.

Try road accidents.
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The fact(you can of course question or doubt) is that heart disease and cancer are way out in the lead as top two causes of death in the United States. Terrorism is low on the list of causes of death. Not sure why this is the new topic though.
I totally agree with you, that's why it's irrational for the federal government to spend $800 billion on spying on absolutely everyone in the country, and so on, while failing to prevent two teenagers from carrying out an incredibly simple plot, and then ask for this police state to be extended, when Obama explicitly stated when campaigning that he would do the complete opposite.

I'm sure everyone in the US would go out and vote for him again, though, if they had the chance. Well, those that aren't voting for the insane Romney, of course.

The reason it's 'the new topic' is because Mr ... brought up second-hand smoke, and you posted some links implying that it was responsible for thousands of deaths, which it isn't. I know it's hard to follow a thread, but that was about three posts ago.

Most of us are far more concerned about the US military going door to door in Boston, but apparently that doesn't bother people that live in the States!
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i-baster wrote:
The fact(you can of course question or doubt) is that heart disease and cancer are way out in the lead as top two causes of death in the United States. Terrorism is low on the list of causes of death. Not sure why this is the new topic though.
I totally agree with you, that's why it's irrational for the federal government to spend $800 billion on spying on absolutely everyone in the country, and so on, while failing to prevent two teenagers from carrying out an incredibly simple plot, and then ask for this police state to be extended, when Obama explicitly stated when campaigning that he would do the complete opposite.

I'm sure everyone in the US would go out and vote for him again, though, if they had the chance. Well, those that aren't voting for the insane Romney, of course.

The reason it's 'the new topic' is because Mr ... brought up second-hand smoke, and you posted some links implying that it was responsible for thousands of deaths, which it isn't. I know it's hard to follow a thread, but that was about three posts ago.

Most of us are far more concerned about the US military going door to door in Boston, but apparently that doesn't bother people that live in the States!
Boston Bombers were teenagers ? I thought one was 26 :conf: or are you now talking about some other topic :conf: :think:

Seems like the septics who live in Boston agree with you and your thinking about how brutal the toops are and police in H2H searches :rofl:
Thats why they come out in droves after to clap and cheer the Security services :coffee:
So I guess it did not bother them :P
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Two Explosions at Boston Marathon 06 May 2013 03:40 #499

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:arrowup: I guess you didn't see the families who described it in terms of having been terrorised by that? Or the ones who correctly pointed out that their rights had been violated? Or the many citizens across the country who now fear that a precedent's been set for this manner of breach of their basic rights? Kind of Ironic too that it was only when the 'shelter in place' curfew was lifted that a citizen was able to locate that probable patsy.
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Door-to-door military searches? It's necessary for your safety.

Running military drills all over the country on an almost daily basis rehearsing martial law scenarios? It's necessary for your safety.

The PATRIOT Act? It's necessary for your safety.

Arresting thousands of American citizens under the PATRIOT Act for ludicrous reasons? It's necessary for your safety.

Unconstitutional wireless wiretapping? It's necessary for your safety.

The National Defense Authorization Act? It's necessary for your safety.

Illegally imprisoning thousands of American citizens using the NDAA? It's necessary for your safety.

Monitoring everything on the Internet? It's necessary for your safety.

Putting up thousands of cameras all over the place? It's necessary for your safety.

Having the police harass people for trivial reasons such as taking photographs? It's necessary for your safety.

Engaging in extraordinary rendition? It's necessary for your safety.

Holding 'suspects' indefinitely at Guantanomo Bay and other prison camps without charge? It's necessary for your safety.

Breaking the Geneva Convention by torturing 'terror suspects'? It's necessary for your safety.

Killing civilians with drone bombing in Pakistan, Libya, etc? It's necessary for your safety.

Spying on US citizens with drone aircraft? It's necessary for your safety.

Invading Afghanistan, Iraq, with more to come? It's necessary for your safety.

Haliburton, Blackwater, et al making billions from the War on Terror? It's necessary for your safety.

Arming admitted al-Qaeda 'rebels' in Syria? It's necessary for your safety.

Insidious and humiliating airport security? It's necessary for your safety.

Installing cancer causing scanners at airports? It's necessary for your safety.

Putting up checkpoints all over the United States? It's necessary for your safety.

Militarising the police? It's necessary for your safety.

Having the FBI foster, fund and equip terrorist groups and then have the same organisation 'investigate' terror attacks? It's necessary for your safety.

Can you stop a 19 year-old with some ball bearings? No. But we need to extend all the programmes above to keep you safe. And we need you to fund this $1 trillion programme as well, while massive corporations cream off billions in profits.

Thank God Obama is a good American who wants to take on these horrible terrorists who hate our freedoms!
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