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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 22:56 #1041

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Obama is george bush on steroids and how is allowed to get away with such laws and rules? Like I said in my post, liberal fascism. where are the liberals? I can tell you where they are CONFUSED.

Liberals don't make laws...

wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal

The following is according to National Journal, Washington's leading online and print publisher of in-depth non-partisan news and analysis of the people, issues and trends driving the federal policy-making process. Its publisher also owns The Atlantic, the magazine Andrew Sullivan writes for. Per its poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was voted most liberal senator in 2007, followed by the other leading Democrat for President Hillary Clinton. Per its ratings the previous 2 years, he ranked as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate. See Related Links)
(Ratings from Democratic, independent, and liberal sources have not been provided. The poll was released on January 31, 2008, well after Obama was considered one of the leaders for President. )

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal#ixzz20RmCQrwA

AHA!!
So you admit that you take the american media's own definition of what liberal is.
The controlled media, and here's you bloody using it, Jesus H fucking Keerist Grem.

If you do not know the meaning of words and/or use them in the wrong context then it is a 'fait accompli' for the establishment.
They have managed to screw with your own language and your own thoughts so badly that you are now incapable of communication.
You know what a fait accompli is yeah? Do you understand the intense relevance of using that word in this context or do you need a bloody dictionary for that too?

Obama is NOT a liberal, Bush is NOT a liberal, Romney is NOT a liberal, no-one in the labour party is a liberal, no-one in the tory party is a liberal, no-one in the lib dems is a liberal, no-one in the BNP is a liberal, no-one in UKIP is a liberal.
The UK LIBERtarian party might have a few liberals.....

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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:02 #1042

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andyh wrote:
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Obama is george bush on steroids and how is allowed to get away with such laws and rules? Like I said in my post, liberal fascism. where are the liberals? I can tell you where they are CONFUSED.

Liberals don't make laws...

wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal

The following is according to National Journal, Washington's leading online and print publisher of in-depth non-partisan news and analysis of the people, issues and trends driving the federal policy-making process. Its publisher also owns The Atlantic, the magazine Andrew Sullivan writes for. Per its poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was voted most liberal senator in 2007, followed by the other leading Democrat for President Hillary Clinton. Per its ratings the previous 2 years, he ranked as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate. See Related Links)
(Ratings from Democratic, independent, and liberal sources have not been provided. The poll was released on January 31, 2008, well after Obama was considered one of the leaders for President. )

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal#ixzz20RmCQrwA

AHA!!
So you admit that you take the american media's own definition of what liberal is.
The controlled media, and here's you bloody using it, Jesus H fucking Keerist Grem.

If you do not know the meaning of words and/or use them in the wrong context then it is a 'fait accompli' for the establishment.
They have managed to screw with your own language and your own thoughts so badly that you are now incapable of communication.
You know what a fait accompli is yeah? Do you understand the intense relevance of using that word in this context or do you need a bloody dictionary for that too?

Obama is NOT a liberal, Bush is NOT a liberal, Romney is NOT a liberal, no-one in the labour party is a liberal, no-one in the tory party is a liberal, no-one in the lib dems is a liberal, no-one in the BNP is a liberal, no-one in UKIP is a liberal.
The UK LIBERtarian party might have a few liberals.....

Do you know why at the end of 1984 Winston didn't know his arse from his elbow?

Then why are so many rules, laws, being passed by obama and the liberals are letting this happen?
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:04 #1043

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gremlin wrote:
andyh wrote:
gremlin wrote:
andyh wrote:
gremlin wrote:


Obama is george bush on steroids and how is allowed to get away with such laws and rules? Like I said in my post, liberal fascism. where are the liberals? I can tell you where they are CONFUSED.

Liberals don't make laws...



:D

wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal

The following is according to National Journal, Washington's leading online and print publisher of in-depth non-partisan news and analysis of the people, issues and trends driving the federal policy-making process. Its publisher also owns The Atlantic, the magazine Andrew Sullivan writes for. Per its poll, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was voted most liberal senator in 2007, followed by the other leading Democrat for President Hillary Clinton. Per its ratings the previous 2 years, he ranked as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate. See Related Links)
(Ratings from Democratic, independent, and liberal sources have not been provided. The poll was released on January 31, 2008, well after Obama was considered one of the leaders for President. )

Read more: wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_liberal#ixzz20RmCQrwA

AHA!!
So you admit that you take the american media's own definition of what liberal is.
The controlled media, and here's you bloody using it, Jesus H fucking Keerist Grem.

If you do not know the meaning of words and/or use them in the wrong context then it is a 'fait accompli' for the establishment.
They have managed to screw with your own language and your own thoughts so badly that you are now incapable of communication.
You know what a fait accompli is yeah? Do you understand the intense relevance of using that word in this context or do you need a bloody dictionary for that too?

Obama is NOT a liberal, Bush is NOT a liberal, Romney is NOT a liberal, no-one in the labour party is a liberal, no-one in the tory party is a liberal, no-one in the lib dems is a liberal, no-one in the BNP is a liberal, no-one in UKIP is a liberal.
The UK LIBERtarian party might have a few liberals.....

Do you know why at the end of 1984 Winston didn't know his arse from his elbow?

Then why are so many rules, laws, being passed by obama and the liberals are letting this happen?

Why are you letting it happen?
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:06 #1044

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Then why are so many rules, laws, being passed by obama and the liberals are letting this happen?

Liberals don't vote for these pillocks remember?

Liberals don't tell people what to do remember?

So you expect liberals to somehow FORCE change?

Have you ever heard of this thing called consistency?
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:10 #1045

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FOX News and The Daily Mail.
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:12 #1046

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You know I can't as you have suppressed human kind, like it though makes you feel human doesn't, makes you blend in with the rest of humanity that you give a dam when you know it will never work.

Are you dehumanising somebody facetiuosly or have you really convinced yourself that those that don't agree with you are inhuman?
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:15 #1047

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Always negative, I am not feeding you reptile. LOVE Take that.
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:24 #1048

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It is sad to say this, but it may indeed be the reality of our situation here at SZ

the not-a-nazis over at DIF and ultimately from elsewhere have, in their "genius" come up with what they consider a win-win.

If they visit this forum and fill it up with threads that have titles and topics and posts that make this place resemble what DIF has come to resemble, then any accusation that DIF is indeed, for all intents and purposes, a neo-nazi site, flaa prey to the accusation of "hypocrisy".

On the other hand, If we collectively decide to ban/block and/or edit their posts, then they will proclaim this site as anti-free speech and point to this as evidence of another form of hypocrisy.

I can only hope that by pointing this out now, we can demonstrate to the independent reader that it is not our intention to be either form of hypocrite.
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 12 Jul 2012 23:59 #1049

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It seems our collective departure and absence from DIF was not enough.

From the reaction we had to our new forum to the posts of Grem, we see that it is our web-wide silence, if not our capitulation, that is their goal.

This confirms what I have repeatedly said about not-a-nazis: they use hatred of others as a means to have power to control over what they consider their "own people" and by "own" they intend "rightfully theirs".
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 13 Jul 2012 08:05 #1050

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Ok guys, i have moved a number of posts here, to keep the thread on track.

Please remember this is the "Rumours about the David Icke Forum" thread, not a thread about a single poster.

No posts were deleted by myself, they are in the Vent Room, titled "Rumours about the David Icke Forum - the excerpts"

Anyone who wants to, feel free to continue the other discussion there, and please keep this thread relevant.

I have used my personal judgement and I know i cant make everyone happy, but its in the interests of the forum to keep things on track here.

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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jul 2012 12:02 #1051

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Just popped into the DIF (as a guest obviously lol) and from what I have observed it seems that moderators there are STILL ganging up on people similar to how they did it to me. It's like watching a bitchy bullying clique - I wonder WHY this is happening :conf: Some people are speaking out over there cos they seem pissed off with it.... I can definitely see more bannings administered by Daisy, I_Am and other "mods".
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jul 2012 21:21 #1052

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There is a poll on the DIF asking "Do you think life would be better had Hitler won?"
Currently, almost 1 in 3 members who took part voted "yes" :conf:
30.95% Yes
50.6% No
18.45% Unsure
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jul 2012 21:37 #1053

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There is a poll on the DIF asking "Do you think life would be better had Hitler won?"
Currently, almost 1 in 3 members who took part voted "yes" :conf:
30.95% Yes
50.6% No
18.45% Unsure

I've been following that thread. Usual bunch of Jew hating ranters ranting a load of shit.
That forum has become some evil twighlight zone.
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jul 2012 21:41 #1054

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@steevo - have seen that thread - Looks like the clean up against anti semitism hasn't worked - I wonder why that could be? oh yes I remember now - they banned and alienated those who spoke up about it and allowed those who are anti semitic to carry on posting with impunity.... oh well make ya bed and lie in it and all that.

another thread www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216137&page=9 11 people describe 'jews' as in en masse as the bane of the earth - sad really that people can be so full of hate and negativity to allow their judgement to blanket a whole peoples on the basis of their religion. better off out of there.
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@steevo - have seen that thread - Looks like the clean up against anti semitism hasn't worked - I wonder why that could be? oh yes I remember now - they banned and alienated those who spoke up about it and allowed those who are anti semitic to carry on posting with impunity.... oh well make ya bed and lie in it and all that.

another thread www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216137&page=9 11 people describe 'jews' as in en masse as the bane of the earth - sad really that people can be so full of hate and negativity to allow their judgement to blanket a whole peoples on the basis of their religion. better off out of there.
I stopped reading those threads when I posted regularly on the DIF some time ago. But I had a quick look at this one, seeing as it's posted on here.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=206108&page=57

Please see post 1139.
I said before that I would prefer Beckenbauer to Begin...remember?

That`s because nazis were straightforward honest to god bastards as opposed to jewish knife-in-the-back gutter rats.

With nazis you know what`s coming at you. Jews are like unfaithful girlfriends...when they praise your efforts most is when you can be sure that they`re fucking somebody else.

If that's not racism, please tell me what is. I obviously don't know what the word 'racism' means.

Under any circumstances that sort of thing should be stamped out, but it's particularly ridiculous considering Icke has himself been accused of anti-Semitism. The total unwillingness and / or inabilty to have a coherent and concerted policy and effort to stamp it out is utterly ridiculous.

What is even more worrying is that almost exactly 50% of people who have responded to that poll aren't sure whether or not they would be better off if the Nazis had won the Second World War. They aren't sure whether this sort of thing...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
The Night of the Long Knives (German: Nacht der langen Messer (help·info)), sometimes called Operation Hummingbird or, in Germany, the Röhm-Putsch, was a purge that took place in Nazi Germany between June 30 and July 2, 1934, when the Nazi regime carried out a series of political murders. Leading figures of the left-wing Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party, along with its namesake, Gregor Strasser, were murdered, as were prominent conservative anti-Nazis (such as former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and Gustav Ritter von Kahr, who had suppressed Hitler's Beer Hall Putsch in 1923). Many of those killed were leaders of the Sturmabteilung (SA), the paramilitary brownshirts.

...would be good or bad!
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Re: Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jul 2012 23:15 #1056

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I was a late comer to the David Icke forum and was extremely surprised to find so many posts spreading hate on there :sadno:
When people read topics on forums promoting nazi ideology on a regular basis the natural conclusion is that the person in control of the forum is a nazi and also the person with their face plastered all over it is also a nazi.
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@ wub - sean himself stated that he believed similar sorts of rhetoric was not anti semitic as jews are not semites - and that jews are not a race so it cannot be racism either. With that sort of mindset it is easy to see how there is a belief that jewish peoples are fair game and the forum rules have wiggle room sadly.

I cannot fathom why anyone would believe that life living under a dictator with a proven record for summary murder of opponents and those he deemed to be undesirable would be preferable to how we live now considering how many of us would not in all likelihood be alive to 'enjoy' it.

@humanspirit that is one of the things that perplexed me so much - considering the allegations made against icke it seems a little odd to have such a proliferation of racist sentiment umoderated on his site.
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@ wub - sean himself stated that he believed similar sorts of rhetoric was not anti semitic as jews are not semites - and that jews are not a race so it cannot be racism either. With that sort of mindset it is easy to see how there is a belief that jewish peoples are fair game and the forum rules have wiggle room sadly.

I cannot fathom why anyone would believe that life living under a dictator with a proven record for summary murder of opponents and those he deemed to be undesirable would be preferable to how we live now considering how many of us would not in all likelihood be alive to 'enjoy' it.
I fear that the answer to the second question is that most people who voted don't know enough basic history to be aware of it. I have actually addressed this to some of the biggest 'Nazi supporters' on the site, and surprisingly none of them had any comeback whatsoever.

As for the first point, I would be interested if you could show me where Sean had said this, as it says in the rules of the forum (not unreasonably):

www.davidicke.com/forum/announcement.php?f=4&a=2
The issues surrounding Israel are legitimate subjects for debate and David Icke has not flinched from addressing them despite the attacks on him this has triggered over the years. However, this debate can be conducted without falling into the cesspit of gratuitous racist abuse. There is no need for this for a view about Israel's policies to be expressed and this is not a place to dump such bile. There are many forums that would welcome it, this one does not.

The people of Israel are, I'm pretty sure, generally recognised to be Jewish, so I think describing Jewish people as "knife-in-the-back gutter rats" might just count as being "gratuitous racist abuse".

And people wonder why we're viewed as extremists.
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@ wub - sean himself stated that he believed similar sorts of rhetoric was not anti semitic as jews are not semites - and that jews are not a race so it cannot be racism either. With that sort of mindset it is easy to see how there is a belief that jewish peoples are fair game and the forum rules have wiggle room sadly.

I cannot fathom why anyone would believe that life living under a dictator with a proven record for summary murder of opponents and those he deemed to be undesirable would be preferable to how we live now considering how many of us would not in all likelihood be alive to 'enjoy' it.

@humanspirit that is one of the things that perplexed me so much - considering the allegations made against icke it seems a little odd to have such a proliferation of racist sentiment umoderated on his site.

I dont reckon that Icke is an "anti-semite" (I dislike using that terminology btw). He has made it clear that he isnt blaming Jews. Icke just needs to make it crystal clear WHY the word "Zionist" is his choice word to describe a SMALL group of people who run the world. Btw I AM aware that the word "Zionist" does NOT mean "Jewish". Does Icke use that word because of the Priory of Sion ? Does he use the word "Zionist" because the "bad guys" have labelled THEMSELVES "Zionists" ? I mean why doesnt he use the word "globalist" ? It just puzzles me why he uses THAT word :conf: I do NOT believe words should be censored, but it would be great if Icke explained himself, just to keeo the dickheads off his back. I have loads of respect for Ickey, and therefore I am NOT one of those Icke-hater people.

Maybe he refers to them as "Zionists" because they believe that they have the divine right, and are the chosen people to own the "promised land", ie they think that they are the chosen few who were born to rule over Zion ? Maybe Zion has gone global ?
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@wub will look through my screenies for the sean quote

@steevo - I am not of the belief that icke is an anti semite ( I use that terminology purely because it is the generally accepted term for what I am on about) I think that icke uses the term zionist to mean those who were involved in israels creation and in its perpetuation in its current form both jewish and non jewish alike - though I may be mistaken in that.
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