how i came across dvid ickes work was via artiicles and links about events and news
in other words it was a kind of reverse engineering of icke ,which suggests to me icke fans could do the same with all but what icke says he himself learned from entities speaking to him ,
checking the credits in my only icke book i find that there is in fact no evidence that those mentioned have any credibility
in fact searching the net which anyone can do
turns up blank on many of ickes theories
about the moon the matrix lizards and much more ,

make of this what you will but my minds made up on icke ,
granted i was never a fan or open to widen my mind or shut out the msm and tailor my informaton sources to esoteric scientists whatever that means , in order to be awoken or enlightened .

badfish wrote:
See, this post should have been free to post on that forum... but u aint allowed to question..
so, this is pretty well true about what it is like there. .. anything gets shut up. no fair!

curtaincat wrote:
I was just being playful, sugartits

domathy wrote:
Thats ok, sweetcheeks

All I will say about Ickes books, is even if you throw out the reptillian, moon and 'spiritual' stuff (which is of course largely his own subjective opinions, though there is a ton of stuff about the moon which is very odd and many folk like the African shamans talk about lizard people), there is still plenty of useful info. So the work may be lifted, but he never claims to be hands on. He talks about history, and he wasnt even alive when the stuff he writes about was happening - i mean, who owns the intellectual rights to history anyways? His books for me are good because they bring together material which I never would have otherwise been exposed to as its taken from other sources which I just didnt know existed. MAybe he's a huckster, but I havent heard one single piece of objective evidence to prove him guilty. As far as im concerned, he has opinions and subjective experience which he shares with people (not for free but not exactly charging vast sums now is he). As for inciting fear, well, I just dont get that myself. he doesnt say we have to fight lizards with pitchforks. Simply that we need to get off our knees (which, if you actually think about, lizards or not, we kinda need to do that anyway, else lizards will be the last of our concerns.

curtaincat wrote:
*blushes*

I agree with mandy when she said icke is just a human and a fallible one like us all so the following list of 'irritations' is aimed at icke the brand rather then at icke the person - as quite frankly I do not know him nor have I met him - I only have secondary sources to go on.

First off and this is the biggie for me I am irritated by the lies - i am irritated by the constant requests for money - I am irritated by those in the employ of 'team icke' - I am irritated by the arrogance and vindictiveness apparent in the name calling and pettiness readable in exchanges that have been made public and in the headline section - I am irritated whomever it is that writes the sickeningly sycophantic soundbites on brand icke merchandise - I am irritated by the double standards and lastly i am irritated by the notion that the msm ignore icke in the main because he is a threat, it is my belief that he is ignored because he is not as important to 'truth' and the world as is made out in said sycophantic musings.

andyh wrote:


Damn right! And about the bold bit... well.. a certain pathetic caracter from the DIF comes to mind.. but I bet he's not shooting egg at AJ's face, if you know what I mean....

above all never get excited by anothers opinion

Kumatora wrote:
i stared at this for minutes

batou wrote:
Now why don't I doubt that bat?

maybe he just says crazy shit on purpose. i think a lot of people who go see his show are being ironic. lol. its like seeing how much a person can talk shit out of their ass and yet people believe it. emperors clothes situation

Kumatora wrote:
Heh, I swear at times you're my long lost sister or something :p

batou wrote:
^^This ^^ really. Not even to test out The Emperor's New Clothes thingy; just because they've learned it makes money.

Say shite: people pay to hear or read again and again and again...(ask politicians or leading novellists - same old shite + same old shite = Lots'a'money).

People's capacity for repetition and rubbish is astonishing, especially when it lets them blame their predicaments on demons/reptilians/governments/illuminatis/elites/rich people/famous people/ royals/anyone else whe willingly hand over our power and dosh to....

I hear what you're saying but i think everyone needs something to believe in - life is pretty empty otherwise - and i guess we just choose what seems best at the time.

I believe David had the best intentions but it's all got a bit out of hand - maybe a legend in his own - or other sycophantic minds, no disrespect intended to David ( not so much to the sycophants..)

www.icke-exposed.co.uk/
rothchilds
www.icke-exposed.co.uk/headline/rothschild-myths-debunked-100/

esoteric = knowledge only available to elite few ,
dictionary.reference.com/browse/Esoteric

Icke's theories are based on spite and revenge against the media and the public: who both ridiculed him when he came out as a son of god. His work before then had been about the devil. Suddenly everyone in the media are evil or puppet idiots and the public are all sheep.
He shaped his own reality with anger. But maybe in doing so he came to the truth.

Craig oxley (2tuff ex dif member) got it right about icke, he's british intell / agent of deception..

91181 wrote:
David Icke, license to shill

cantata wrote:
Hang on, we all need a bit of repitition, hence why we spend year after year talking same old same old bollocks on internet forums. I mean, I stand to be corrected but it is basically just variations of the same old themes. Plus, I know lots of happy people, myself inculded, without serous predicaments (and who create their own reality and take full responsibility for outcomes/manifestations in their life) who believe in forces (both benevolent and malevolent) who exist beyond visible light. Im not looking to deflect my own issues by holding such beliefs, im more concerned about everyone else who is dumbed down, depressed, angry (fill in the blank) because I never believed the line that all the problems in the world are down to 'human nature' or 'political incompetence'.

And as for the dosh bit, people hardly surrender their worldly posessions. A book is about the same price as a few expensive coffees or a round of beers. The only reason ive never been to a talk is because 9 hrs is too long, especaially when his talks are free on youtube to be watched in sections at ones leisure.