Mike wrote:
The ignorant masses, actually to say ignorant is perhaps unfair, the masses are distracted, have their own worries, they go with the flow, with "how things are", because it's easy, they don't want to go against the grain, anything for a quiet life, etc. Stalin and Hitler were in power, they had the chance to make a difference, but the difference they made was murder and suffering on a mass scale. Good men and good women who would lead the world and govern their people would make a difference for good, and for the good of all.
I think it's rare that good people end up leading government,
Cunts are still running the world.

Gilly wrote: Actually I think they're worse, what Hitler was trying would have benefited lot's of people, only Germans but still, consumers think only about themselves, their own private interests, their lives benefit nobody just further extend the profits of multi-national corporations and maintain the status quo with passive violence which has effects all over the world every day.

irrepressible wrote: I'd say the majority who post here would come under "ignorant masses" as you describe them Irre:

Mike wrote:
Your answer is utterly ludicrous, as anticipated, and I find it significant that you just plucked out one comment to respond to, whilst ignoring the majority of the post.

Your response to Irre reveals you to be back in full arrogant swing, as per Guevarista. What a disappointing waste of energy debate with you is.

Yet there's a glimmer of hope that you can pull it back, by justifying your obvious feeling of superiority over the 'ignorant masses' on here ... i.e. explain what difficult things you've done to go against the flow / grain (and I don't mean being a prick on here) in order to amend the world's state of affairs. Apart from allegedly not shopping in Primark.

Mike wrote:
You sound like a confused NaN now. Hitler worked with multi national corporations, such as thyssen and ibm.

hahaha, you want me to list my life for the past 8 years, sorry, I'm not interested in impressing anybody or your condescending responses.



We can talk about Praxis another day maybe if you'd like?

About how you or I live our lives to combat the power's that be, the ways in which we throw ourselves upon the gears?

andyh wrote: Haha, he wasn't propagandizing with his Jewish conspiracy theories to the Pilgrim's or SMOM though was he, he didn't need to really they probably wrote them

It's the one thing you can say about Fascism in it's favour, it is basically the most effective method of creating mass societal change, that's why I am suspicious of Populism as you know, Hitler came to power on the back of a huge economic crash so could only win, The Nazis got the entire country working which you can't do in a capitalist economy and created mass public unity and social cohesion in opposition to a scapegoat, the whole world would have sufferred but at least the Germans were trying to promote something unlike any primark shopper

Looks like the fishing turned out well today for you Mike.
You've got a fair few lines going at once I see.

Mike wrote:
I prefer to say that the nazis were authoritarian syndicalists, the precise opposite of the ideal I'd like to say which is libertarian syndicalism.

Regardless there are numerous things that are vastly different about the situation today than it was in WW2.
People could work for the same overlords locally to produce goods for local customers because back then it was profitable, now it is not.
Every authoritarian ism you can think of has failed to make any headway, it has just fed the monster.

Even if you buy clothes from a charity store you're still playing a part to it, its pointless to try and point fingers at people for what particular store they visit

Mike wrote:


Martens is very much in the limelight. There appears to be no doubt about his connection with the Guarantee Trust Company, Though it is surprising that so large and influential an enterprise should have dealings with a Bolshevik concern.

Scotland Yard Intelligence Report, London, 1919...



The Actors on the Revolutionary Stage...

reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/

I don't disagreereally Andy, imo most people will consume more to cope with the guilt of being basically a battery for exploitation on a global scale, so it's pointless saying so.

All my point was that it's equally pointless for irre to talk about Stalin and Hitler like he knows anything about them or to say "they killed millions", because tbh what country in the world hasn't?

And what country in the world isn't composed of people who would lash out if they thought every celebrity was a pedofile or muslamic infidel trying to impose Shariah lawz over them?

Mike wrote:
Iceland

And I guess countries that are already muslim in the 2nd instance.

Mike wrote:
Not a celeb or muslim in site...



Delhi (/ˈdɛli/, officially the National Capital Territory of Delhi (NCT), is a metropolitan region in India that includes the national capital city, New Delhi. It is India's second-most-populous city after Mumbai, and the largest city in terms of area...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi
www.pucl.org/from-archives/Child/prostitution.htm
www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2013/04/2013427144218181646.html

irrepressible wrote:
a strange position to put yourself in... and conclude that a choice must be made..!
I smell the smell of wanting sex with Hitler... on you!

feather wrote:

Oh yeh,
after all he wanted the best for his people by putting himself first. It is the only way to achieve unity through nobility.

Space Bandit wrote:


I was thinking more along the lines that I could take Hitler in a fight Also, I'd run the clippers over his head, and shave that fucking mustache off!

Mike wrote:
So people shop at the cheapest shops because they're skint so it's their fault?

If Hitler or Stalin did things that helped a lot of people they did it at the expense of millions of innocent people who died.
The two things are clearly incomparable.

Space Bandit wrote: No they just consume, they don't create nobody knows how to make clothes so they shop at exploitative multi nationals because it's cheaper to look like some prick off the telly that way, they don't think ethically, they buy "High street fashion" that looks like designer but is way cheaper because it's made by kids in sweatshops
They moan about immigrants and benefits scroungers

Who are these supposedly innocent people Stalin was supposed to have murdered?
He never had anything like the Holocaust going on, the two people are clearly only compared to each other by utterly banal noobs.

irrepressible wrote:
I was thinking of kneeing him in the bollox, but it might only have half the desired impact.

Stalin would kick both your guys asses.