Wise Haven wrote:
Hi Wise Haven. Welcome.
I've found this puzzling as well. They've basically made themselves eligible for profit, from money donated by other people!
It's either they got bad advice,they are inept or just corrupt. Any of those.
I think there are just too many red flags about the whole thing.

Is David Icke the anti-Christ?

Isn't the belief that the anti-Christ will try to deceive people by telling them he is the 'son of god'........., hmmm where have I heard that said before

Focus wrote:
I can't really see it being down to bad advice. They apparently got their advice from solicitors (David said in a video, but I think he actually said Lawyers). There's no way their solicitors wouldn't have known the things we do, absolutley no way. He's probably been given the "not-for-profit" and "single cent" phrases from these people.

So we're left with two other possibilities, and I think the answer is both.

Hi Arthur.

Hi Wisehaven - I think I remember you . Did you used to have a Gandalf avatar?

Thanks for the welcome Focus

I agree, corrupt or inept and certainly a strange choice. As they chose the Private Limited format they could have offered shares rather than donations as an incentive to invest and I would guess they would have had no problem raising a hell of a lot more money than a non profit. However, they chose a hybrid startup (Private Ltd Company financed by donations...crazy) and the only ones to gain financially are Icke and Sean.
The idea and ethos behind TPV was a good one, however non of that seems to have materialized and all they have created is same ole, same ole.
I didn't donate but watched with interest and it bacame apparent early on that it would crash and burn - shambolic business plan for starters.

Yup, Twas I with my Gandalf avatar Gilly

I remember you very well and we shared a PM or two (probably read by sean apparently lol) You were one of the faces that disappeared in the cull and sorely missed, amongst others. I think its called a brain drain lol

Yay!

I'm glad you found your way here.

Greencard wrote:
If I had to guess, I'd say the above is at least partly right, DI and family plus klingons needed a "proper" TV show to demonstrate just how important they are, after all, they possess knowledge that us plebs could only achieve through years of following their sermons lectures and videos. They are living it large now, big London office, teams of people to boss around, cash in the kitty and they are loving it - the only potential problem is people might stop paying for it, hence the emotional outbursts and appeals, they dont want anyone to kill their cash cow.

Though I think the potential for big wonga was also at the back of their minds, maybe not in terms of actual embezzlement, but certainly in terms of fat salaries, expensive accounts and all that goes with being a senior executive in a profitable company.

Thanks for the Yay!
It'll be interesting if they inactivate my account at DIF now I'm here. I think I posted once in the last few years so they won't have the excuse I said something naughty.

Anyhoo - back on topic and wouldn't be surprised if TPV was meant to fail to warn off any other AM outlets with big ideas of challenging the MSM. In other words a massive Pied Piper operation.

Wise Haven wrote:
That's possibly why the company was started before any crowd funding campaign got going............

Arthur wrote: He certainly regards himself as a Christ.
Give him your money, and he will save the World.
No one else can save the World except his books and TPV.
Give him money and everything will be alright.
This is despite him not offering any solutions whatsoever.

Focus wrote:
You mean the non-comply dance won't save you.........

Yup Arthur - The UK Colum has the potential to expand its influence and reach a larger audience if it pulls its finger out. The failure of TPV will take down a lot of AM supporters along with their money, morale and much of the enthusiams needed to kickstart an AM revolution in the UK.

And, as you say the company was waiting for an opportune time well before the funding aspect was put forward. I smell a rat - and its not my cats failling in their catty contractual obligations (Vermin for Tuna clause)

Arthur wrote: Yeah, forgot the non comply dance!

ola peeps as you know or i may of said in the past i worked in and for various different media company so let me give you an the view of sum one who works in the media industry

first off a link to my video on 11 points on how and why the peoples voice failed

as i discuss in my video there was a very evident lack of planning involved at TPV most of the issues have come from this problem and this is what had doomed TPV from the start they need advertising to survive according to sum one on there forum it costing them about £50,000 a month that's quite an acuret number but i think its closer to 60 my self.
First off no way right from the start where they going to survive from just donations alone that's just mad to think that thay need advertising and right from the start the did not bother to find any.

its also LOLarific to see there new video on there channel of the two guys responsible for finding advertising turning down people anyone who has run there own business will tell you you never turn down work when you start out so the fact the turn people away on what grounds did they do this whats the company ?

but there real reason is advertisers already know about TPV they just will not touch it as it has reptile boy allover it and one one wants there products to be lumped in with the the crazy icke

another thing i would like to point out is they have never released the viewing numbers to my knowledge but given the YouTube numbers where very bad most never got over 300 views i can only guess that one man and his gold fish is watching

^ at least that fish has a doctorate

Greencard wrote:
My God I just watched the bums and titties non comply dance on your YouTube channel. I was waiting for the bit at the end where he collapses as he was so out of breath cos he doesn't look like a fit man.

Rather than think as has been stated he is anything to do with the occult I am actually beginning to wonder if he has mental health issues or some kind of dementia with hallucinations of lizard people and holographic moons. What with this and video's on his own website of his son sticking straws up his arse

I don't know of any other parent who would be that proud and I am in his age group.

I'm sorry but... has anyone seen this bullshit!?



10K DONATION FOR A BUNCH OF SIGNED BOOKS!?

That is absolute bollocks. Is there really anyone who's going to pay 10K for some books?

oh dear Richie's show not aired because of "serious IT issues"

This is self imposed I am sure - the content has been laughable (Edwina Currie ~ another Media whore! and .apparently she ran rings around Richie)

What alternative person would go on there now after the people they have rubbished ? Who is going to work for them now anyway?
They are done and will now say the "hacking" made TPV unworkable.

The fact, as hopefully someone will pick up on soon enough that there is a smoking cupboard behind the kitchen, illegal and will invalidate their insurance...........

I thought that the offices would cost them a pretty penny but now I realize the rent is extremely cheap means yeah there has been huge embezzlement going on, £300.000 ???? With wages at £75,000 lots of money has gone missing already.

Richard Rowlands did mention cocaine to me, but I never saw any.

This is over and done TPV is dead in the water, not to figure out how to get money back for people. I did see yesterday that some people were already asking for there money back, more and more should. If I had given any I would want it back.

I think Mr Ickey has gone off for plastic surgery, he really did look awful when I saw him.

just my thoughts

It is hard to see more and more people being hurt and confused, I am glad Shaun's fascist tendencies re DIF are becoming public knowledge.

Before I wrote my blog I begged both Shaun and Liz to get a grip, but I was shut out of my e mail account and ignored, which I kinda expected, but I am not so vulnerable, to treat people, who may be isolated and vulnerable in the way they do beggars belief.

Is David Icke the anti christ? NO he is just a stupid, fat old man trying to get a retirement plan, and he doesn't care who he hurts or whose money he uses to get one.

as hell !!!!

Subl1minal wrote:


There'll be DIF members selling their kidneys to try and raise that 10 grand.