www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262848&page=8



It won't belong before the poster above is banned and the thread shut down due to....um....free thinking?

No, it is not me!

psketti wrote:
LMFAO!!!

hugorune wrote: It’s basically impossible in Britain to compete independently in any industry that is controlled by major corporations. Let alone one that has the overheads of TV. This is why we see exactly the same shops in every high street in the country. The entire economy is already stitched up. I didn’t see any conceivable way that the TPV could generate enough money from advertising to survive, although I must admit I thought they’d do a better job of it than they have. There isn’t any ‘clean’, ethical money to chase after. Infowars has attempted something far less ambitious than what TPV is attempting, but all of the sort of companies that advertise on AJ’s site do not exist in Britain (whatever you think about whether or not Infowars is ethical).

It makes me laugh with these people, and this is a bugbear of mine about Russell Brand as well, that we hear them going on about all of these other subjects and either negating, deflating or denying the importance of money. But, of course, they’re completely reliant on it, and have always got their hand out (which I don’t have a problem with because we all do). But then you’ll hear them saying stuff like all that matters is love and spirituality.

Is that the case, Russell? I assume you’ll be giving all your money away then? I assume you won’t be taking seven figures fees to appear in wanky movies any more? Try telling kids eating out of the bins in Somalia that spirituality is more important than money. In a monetary-driven society, money is, sadly, the only thing that matters. Ultimately it dictates almost all human behaviour, and even begins to vastly influence things that it really shouldn’t, such as who we mate with.

In all honesty, instead of pissing about looking at the moon, or tracing the bloodlines of the Templar Knights back several thousands of years, or talking about how meditation is really valuable and will change your life, the basic socio-economic and political systems have to be addressed directly. If they’re not, nothing will change for the better. Fucking tit around doing yoga and talking about how atoms don’t really have any mass all day long, that’s great, but you still have eat after you’ve finished.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Agreed, and surely Icke and his minions would/should have known this. It seems to have been poorly planned from the get go.
And setting up and running a studio in London is utter lunacy. They should have taken a leaf out of Radio Carolines book and broadcast from a ship in international waters.

I haven't listened to AJ for yonks. I kind of miss his GTA style doom adverts.

hugorune wrote:
I think you're being a bit kind! It seems to have been a Tennants Super session, someone slurred "wouldn't it be great to have a TV channel?" and they all agreed. First they appealed for £100,000, a figure that was clearly plucked out of Icke's arse and not based on anything resembling a business plan; once they'd got the wedge in they then realised they needed equipment and asked for that and now they seem to have been caught out by the fact there are ongoing cost when running an ongoing venture! They are either thick/naive as fuck or know full well what they are up to.

batou wrote:
Great thread. I like the indignation from a poster called silvarizla:-

"I know there are a few here who will have donated, so please exclude yourselves from this: I'm fucking disgusted in the lot of you. You obviously dont want real change, we have a real opportunity to do something here and the fact that so little people are getting behind it astounds me. Conspiritainment, that's all most of you want."

That's some awakened, spiritual shit right there, folks. Now cough the fuck up!

oioioi wrote:
I found this picture of that epic meeting between Sean and Icke.

Bloody hell i clicked the link.
Astounding.
I actually cant decide if some of those folk are in house socks or whether i really out to feel sorry for them.

hugorune wrote:
I was going to comment on Thenosferatu's posts, as they're class!

I never got as far as that one though, coz I had to run off & throw up on reading I_Am's one about how they need this opportunity to make the 90% of the population who are slumbering understand about infinite love - and how she's been on this path a long time. I'm sorry, but she's one of the most hateful bitches I've ever had the misfortune to encounter, and even when she's not talking down to folk on the forum, she's in the mod thread slagging off Poms and being generally spiteful and smart-arsed at others' expense.

oioioi wrote:
Absolutely, and I too said it from the off. I was also scratching my head over what outfits would pay to advertise on TPV (assuming they passed the stringent ethical tests ). There was also Ofcom and a subscription programme that occurred to many of us but apparently not to TPV fucktards (can I say that?).

On the other hand, to be fair, I have listened to some of the output and there has been some worthwhile content there. I exclude the so-called psychic from the States who did 'readings' of people phoning in, who is IMO is a complete charlatan and confidence hoaxster. She ticked all the boxes of someone purporting to do cold readings but in fact was subtly eliciting info from callers and throwing ideas out there for them to latch onto and make a fit. Pathetic drivel and a disgrace to any output.

There's definitely space for something like TPV but this ain't it!

"can i say that?"

i for one would rather you didn't. may i suggest, cunts?

It just seems totally obvious to me that money is going to be an issue for a project like this, particularly in the rather well documented economic climate. Even some of the content of TPV acknowledges this, hence the fact that there are these programmes, ‘The Banned’ and ‘The People’s Art’. Why do these programmes exist? Because it’s tough to get a break in these fields, in fact it’s tough to make any money at all. So people that are interested in these topics generally don’t have much money. I would imagine the majority of the staff at TPV, who aren't being paid a penny, don't have much money either.

By contrast, people that do have quite a lot of money generally aren’t dissatisfied with the existing socio-economic systems, and don’t see any reason that they need to be changed (even if they later come to realise that this is a misguided view). And obviously you're not going to get big corporate interests sponsoring a TV channel that is against them, even if they were remotely interested in doing so.

I’ve spoken to some very intelligent and perceptive people who are capable of some amazing things, yet they have absolutely no concept of how the society they’re living in works. They’re just completely focused on their own field, their own life, and achieving everything they can within that.

People such as those who contribute to this forum, who are quite level-headed, and at the same time profoundly aware that the social order is completely poisonous, are extremely rare. It’s asking rather a lot for them to fund a TV channel which they well recognise is not going to change anything while the vast majority remain completely uninterested.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
There's no need to eat according to some of these guys.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261886

I haven't actually seen any conclusive evidence that drawing everything the body 'needs' from source isn't 'possible'.
I have seen a fair bit that points toward it being entirely 'possible'.

So all that cash people are selfishly lavishing on food could be donated instead to TPV!

I admit to never having looked into it, but people have died of starvation. There was a woman who died of starvation not long ago after having a gastric band put in too tight when she was trying to get thin for her wedding.

I'm not sure about starvation, but I posted this about malnutrition in Britain a while ago:

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-...e-years-8945631.html

Not that malnutrition in Britain is more important that all of other regions where we take it for granted, but it does indicate how bad things are getting.

knobmeup wrote:
I agree. But it tends to be the territory of swamis and stigmatists. Faith is the key I'd say - a truckload of it.

We're here in bodies that can process and draw strength from food, so I'd guess that using them whilst we're here is kind of the point. And eating can be rather nice.

Aye. Why anyone who had the opportunity would deny themselves cake and biscwits is beyond me.

knobmeup wrote: Only a fool would say "yeah, I'll enter the nightmare of cake."

one young kiddy cried all the water out of his body. imagine how his mother felt.

silvarizla i bet