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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 10:43 #3441

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Just look at one of your posts, if you are banned it says 'Banned' under your username.

Can you please check out my status? Babs123
"inactive", whatever that means

I think 'inactive' means you've been placed on a ban by a ordinary mod, no amount of infraction points adds up to a ban, so a upper mod has to cut you out, the lower mod can't do it.
So 'inactive' = awaiting the guillotine.

This may or not be true but, Sean likes to label folk as inactive rather than banned sometimes. It looks better if you get my drift. It makes it look like folk just decided to get on with real life rather than had their account suspended because they can see Sean is a cunt. Many of the original SZers suffered this indignity. So much so that we started handing out badges to folk that managed to get the status 'upgraded' to banned :chuckle:
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 10:44 #3442

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@knobmeup, Yea, what he did to me the other night, just made me inactive

edit: Well, just checked, looks like i'm banned now :aargh:
:killinme: :killinme: :killinme:
paranoic little cunt he is.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:00 #3443

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Refugee wrote:
Before it goes- another one about to bite the dust?

www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061958852&postcount=33
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I don't want to 'kick a man when he is down' or 'scupper a worthwhile project'.

However, I think that The People's Voice should show honesty, openness, and transparency. It should be a lighted beacon amongst the darkness of cover-ups in the MSM.

All this "she said/he said" isn't doing anyone any good.

I am disappointed that TPV has decided to refer some blog posts to their solicitors. I thought we were trying to break out of the system of legal control and compliance. Doesn't David himself advocate the "Non-compliance Dance"? But the minute that people start to suggest that there is wrong-doing amongst the TPV staff, the team turns to the law rather than being totally transparent.

The financial report issued by TPV wasn't worth the broadband space it was written on to be honest. So, given that there have been allegations and questions about the use of funding then I suggest that someone sorts out a full financial reconciliation as soon as possible. Monies in (from ALL the funding streams) and monies paid out.

That's one feisty fighter - her hubby threw Cyril Smith out of their house many years ago - and reported him to the police (and her hubby was a policeman) as they caught Cyril touching up a young boy.

Curiously enough, the police couldn't find the record of that complaint, so Iwantthetruth reinstated the original report

The rate DiF mods are going - banning and restricting posters - many of whom have worked hard to expose child abuse- raises a ?n mark about whom they are trying to silence and why.

Added to TPV refusal to give Bill Maloney a VOICE ............ well everyone is free to join whatever dots they choose - and maybe the final picture isn't a pretty one?

I am beginnng to wonder myself especially given the likes of having Peter Tatchell on and not Bill Maloney or Chris Spivey. Hhmmmmmm
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:10 #3444

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More on that topic...

A few days ago, on 25th November, David Icke published an extract from Edwina Currie's Diaries 1987-1992 in which she outed Peter Morrison as a 'noted pederast':

www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...eter-morrison-

The article says:

Currie wrote:

One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS [Parliamentary Private Secretary].

Now he’s what they call a “noted pederast”, with a liking for young boys. He admitted as much . . . when he became deputy chairman of the party but added: “However, I’m very discreet” — and he must be!

She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. It scares me, as all the Press know, and as we get closer to the election, someone is going to make trouble very close to her indeed.’

Thatcher didn’t know? Are you having a laugh? Clearly everyone knew, including many in the media, and what was that Currie said about Chester MP Morrison? – He admitted as much when he became deputy chairman of the party, but said he was very discreet??

However...

I alway check sources when I read attributed quotes and I could only find repetitions of the same quote on other sites, forums and blogs, so I found a copy of Edwina Curries Diaries 1987-1992 on eBay for £2.00. It arrived today and I immediately searched for the quote.

On page 195 of the hardback edition published by Little, Brown, it says, verbatim:

One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS. Now he’s what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to Norman Tebbit when he became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I’m very discreet' - and he must be! She either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison's (woman) agent, who claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares, me as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to make trouble, very close to her indeed.

I'm guessing that David Icke did not source the quote from Currie's diaries because there are several sticks of dynamite which were omitted from his article;

1. Norman Tebbit is named as having been told by Peter Morrison himself that he was a pederast.

2. Teresa Gorman is named as also being privy to this information.

3. Morrison's agent was alleged to have been paid to keep quiet about his activities.

The diaries were published in 2002 so either nobody was remotely interested in Morrison's 'activities' or nobody has had the remotest interest in Currie's memoirs.

But there was far more to this diary entry than David Icke let on.

www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061168459&postcount=1
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Re:The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:11 #3445

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Icke is far too much under the influence of Sean, and is obviously an easy touch for Gissajob Gareth.

Has Sean ever spoken about his own views about the way the world is governed? Does he really support the work?

Sean seems to be in charge of every aspect of Icke's business activities. It is all a bit odd.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:22 #3446

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Gilly wrote:
You don't have to be here to make pals, but if you speak insultingly to other members, you can expect to be pulled up for it. The site hasn't just started - it's been running a good while now, and we welcome new members, but as I said, if you are rude to people, don't complain if you get flak back. Employ common sense instead. Expect to be addressed in the same way that you address others. All members are deemed 'insiders', not 'outsiders', so don't abuse it.
I'd just like to add to this. I've never encountered a place like SZ before. At it's inception the SZ was all about transparency/community. We had all endured the corporate regime at the DIF and were keen to build a place that was how we'd have liked the DIF to be. What you see here now, took blood, sweat, argument, split, determination, passion, heart and soul to produce. The site we have today is a result of all those things and the site is currently a certain way. The SZ way.
Now.
Nothing has changed with that ethos as far as I am aware.
This inevitably means that the recent influx of valued members to the community will bring about change here. Every single one of us has a say in how the place is run. We are consulted and our views are all taken into account when making site wide decisions. Any member is free to put forward a suggestion or fifty. It's not always an easy process but we get there in the end. Now that the community has grown so much, it will take some adjusting to for all of us. I've no doubt that it will lead to a new evolution of the SZ. An evolution to even better things.

But. If you come here acting a twat, you can expect to be treated as a twat. That much has never changed and I very much doubt it ever will...
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:25 #3447

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They do prefer statuses to show as inactive, rather than banned, because it's not obvious that they've been shut down by admin as opposed to voluntarily bowing out for bit (unless they've changed things while I've been gone, and introduced a 'voluntarily inactive' status?).

Also, they believe that some folk like to wear the 'Banned' status like a badge of honour. :D

I've been stewing on this a bit, and would just like to say that if people want to get things off their chest about their experiences, and if they want to use the hide function, for whatever reason, they shouldn't have to justify that to anybody - it should be just a given.

I intend to watch the spectacle of icke & Co / TPV self-destructing, and will be commenting on it throughout, as I see fit. :moon:

If the history seen on here, of people's maltreatment at the hands of DIF mods persuades any readers to think twice about their own trust in Icke / Sean, then all the better.

I'll also add that, without wishing to sound patronising :D I'm delighted at the quality of posting from the new members here, and really pleased at having lots of new playmates, and seeing some old friends again.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:31 #3448

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Timelord wrote:
diforumreject wrote:
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Just look at one of your posts, if you are banned it says 'Banned' under your username.

Can you please check out my status? Babs123
"inactive", whatever that means

Mine certainly went "inactive" for a few days then without warning changed to "banned" with "no reason specifiied."

Of course if mainstream media did this, Sean, David and his sycophants would be going CENSORSHIP REPTILES NWO!

Fair enough I hadn't posted for a few months, but I did log in some time last weekend, so that's not inactive is it? Oh no wait it must have been when I started posting on here....................
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:34 #3449

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Blue_Tackler was correct in his deduction that mod's can't ban outright - takes someone in a higher position to permanently ban.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:34 #3450

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Gilly wrote:
I've been stewing on this a bit, and would just like to say that if people want to get things off their chest about their experiences, and if they want to us the hide function, for whatever reason, they shouldn't have to justify that to anybody - it should be just a given.
It's not about justifying it Gilly. I've been clear. There is good cause for using a hidden box should the text be sensitive to the poster. However, I've also been clear that it is a futile thing to do because DIF admin will see it anyway, as would solicitors should the need arise. So in reality, all it does is restrict information for the wider web users that aren't logged in members and it makes the SZ look like some secret squirrel gang bang. That's the simple facts of it.
I intend to watch the spectacle of icke & Co / TPV self-destructing, and will be commenting on it throughout, as I see fit. :moon:
Me too :chuckle:
If the history seen on here, of people's maltreatment at the hands of DIF mods persuades any readers to think twice about their own trust in Icke / Sean, then all the better.
Which kind of backs up my contention that having it out in the open is the thing to do.
I'll also add that, without wishing to sound patronising :D I'm delighted at the quality of posting from the new members of here, and really pleased at having lots of new playmates, and seeing some old friends again.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:39 #3451

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knobmeup wrote:
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re hidden posts - someone made the point earlier that if they made a hidden post and then someone quoted with reply that made it visible when the poster did not want it to be. So I have been following that really, but as a new boy dont really know if there is a proper protocol to follow

I still haven't figured out how to do them and am worried by answering a whistleblower I will blow their cover so to speak. :emb:

When you are posting, if you look on the line above the smilies (that starts with the bold B), in the third section there is a button that to me looks like two people hugging. If you click that you'll see two [ ] boxes appear with the cursor in the middle. The [ ] boxes should say hide and /hide.
Just write the text you want to hide between those boxes. Or you could type the tags manually.

I for one appreciate your concern at blowing folks' cover. Though as said many times now, it's pointless anyway due to DIF admin socks.
Though it does force them to log in if they want to see the text. Which means we can see they have been here.

Personally, unless it is truly sensitive info, I'm all for posting out in the open. If you're all going to get things off your chest, it's fitting that everyone in webland can see it.
And like I said, this thread looks proper shit if you aren't logged in.

Part of the message is hidden for the guests. Please log in or register to see it.

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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 11:50 #3452

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Part of the message is hidden for the guests. Please log in or register to see it. :)

I don't see what the big deal is myself. If folk want to say something without the whole uninvolved www web seeing it, then mote it be.

Regarding Libel/Defamation, remember that opinion is not actiionable in law but anything stated as factual that causes someone harm to their reputation can be (sometimes even when that fact is provably true) British Libel laws are a mess that is why we have Libel law tourists. Regardless of the truthfulness of a fact - the court considers wether damage has occurred. Libel and Defamation are the rich mans perk. :(
My Rights End Where Yours Begin so give me space FFS
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I would have thought most of the DIF mods would have socks on here? Probably zero-post accounts. So we are surely deluding ourselves to think the 'hide' function offers any protection from them?

Personally, I am delighted if they read the posts on here! :D

The DIF is becoming a place where tumbleweeds blow across and largely an irrelevance.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 12:01 #3454

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:killinme: :notworthy:

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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 12:12 #3455

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Dqlpn7


I know Alison, otherwise normally sensible analytical me.... If I wouldn't have experienced the unnecessary penalties, having my "reasonable analytical posts" removed and ultimately BANNED just for posting here, I wouldn't have known what was going on.
I promised to stay away from TPV related threads on DIF. I kept my promise. You haven't.
What is your word worth after this?
If by a miracle I get un-banned I will still keep my promise.
Since when it is a crime to join other forums? I am on ATS, and Tolle Forum, was on them prior to DIF. They didn't ban me for joining DIF did they?
It's you guys who are unreasonable.
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 12:22 #3456

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marina wrote:
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24l0mis

So yet another reason to not be doing it unless it's necessary. If a twat like ex sheep can get jokeage out of it...:coffee:

Still. Get real sheepy. You may not have a hidden text option but you do have many thousands of deleted posts and silenced 'dissenters'/'infiltrators'/'shills'... :roll:
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The People's Voice 25 Jan 2014 12:29 #3457

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Ex-sheep's follow up post is hilarious - basically 'repent repent you sinners, and the church of DIF will welcome you back' :killinme:

And quite clearly they don't like the hide tags - makes that job that bit harder stalking members over here to ban them over there eh? Oh and giving your sock accounts away by viewing and never/rarely posting.

Before I became a member the hidden stuff didn't bother me at all tbh - though I missed a lot on this thread, I guessed people had their reasons, and I knew all I had to do was sign up to read. No biggie for me as a guest (at the time) :)
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And quite clearly they don't like the hide tags - makes that job that bit harder stalking members over here to ban them over there eh?
That is a good point on the surface but when you know how Sean operates, it is very improbable that he won't have a sock available here to view those posts. That's all I'm saying really.
Before I became a member the hidden stuff didn't bother me at all tbh - though I missed a lot on this thread, I guessed people had their reasons, and I knew all I had to do was sign up to read. No biggie for me as a guest (at the time) :)
Again, a fair point. I disagree having spent a few days as a guest. I just found it crap :hide:
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Icke is far too much under the influence of Sean, and is obviously an easy touch for Gissajob Gareth.

Has Sean ever spoken about his own views about the way the world is governed? Does he really support the work?

Sean seems to be in charge of every aspect of Icke's business activities. It is all a bit odd.

Another Royal Adams? You would have thought he'd have learnt by now.
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marina wrote:
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24l0mis

Even better that the hide function annoys the likes of ex sheep. It makes their job that much harder. ;)

Good.
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