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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 16:59 #3661

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Poor I am - she's getting very tired :sadno:
I have no intention of getting into a debate over this. I just suggested a possible scenario. I know no more than anyone else who has followed events.

I know I am very tired of this whole thing dominating this forum and I am disappointed in the division it is causing. There is so much hatred out there on the net that is mainly conjecture, assumptions based on that conjecture, fear based and the complete lack of love.

I am sure this is not the end of it all so I guess we just wait for the next instalments from whomever.


https://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061960509&postcount=101



I was pleased to see Gremlin comment on that thread....
I am so confused

Seems he's just realising.... I was telling him for years!
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:00 #3662

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Atlantean: - You state you are an ex-TPV volunteer and have contributed information to earthinggb's blog - can we infer that you, maybe, are the infamous mole?.

I know I sound nosey but right from the start I suspected this was going to be a money/donation fest that would not benefit "The People" and would serve to further destroy the morale of the Alternative Media (AM)

Am I right?
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:01 #3663

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@Space Bandit

Just what I was saying, they have managed to alienate real genuine supporters. Well done Alison!
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:02 #3664

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I left as a volunteer in October 2013 so I have no inside understanding of his health issues. He's clearly not been well, for whatever reason, but in my private emails with him he has been very angry and his language was rather colourful! I'm clearly not his best mate.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:02 #3665

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Hey Yeah I'm good thanks :>)

Just wrote my conclusions out in the comments at Mama D's

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

Comments 45 and 46.

It has been lovely to watch people regain their power and freedom, hugs to eveyone for your kind hearts :>)

It is also good to watch people be able to speak out with no fear of recriminations.

As far as Dick and Shawn's lega; claims.....to claim for libel one must already have a good name, Wogan put paid to that years and years ago. Pair of pathetic little mis information muppert :killinme: :killinme: :killinme:
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:03 #3666

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marina wrote:
so it's 1200 per month not for the 6 months!

This was the account:

Tpv Fs
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:07 #3667

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No I don't think i'm the mole you refer to. He did mention myself and Mark Welsh as people trying to bring it all down but I wasn't trying to do that at all. I private emailed DI with all my concerns a number of times with only petty ramblings remarks back, only the did I go to Earthlinggb. I have had recent communications with him after the Sonia Poulton episode earlier this month. I think I am just an irritation to him to be honest!
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:10 #3668

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chandrakavi wrote:
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Hi Gilly,

No I'm not the same Atlantean, but use that ID on the DIF and Wordpress. I'm an ex TPV volunteer and gave Earthlinggb plenty of titbits for his blogs back end of last year. I knew alot that went on at TPV between July - October. Also having direct contact with the great man himself he has definately lost the plot!!! He even mentioned my name - Ian Kelly - in his Sonia Poulton rant.

Atlantean - Ian K

Hi Atlantean nice to see you here :D I am often on Earthlinggb's blog and mention it where I can.

I have wondered about David maybe having some kind of mental meltdown rather than this supposed adrenal fatigue he has...........


Alcohol?

Underlying mental health issues, of which David icke has a lifelong association with, excessive alcohol and stress are a toxic mix.

I know he has addressed some issues, admitting his 1991 breakdown was just that, was very brave.

Im sure Sean tabatabi will be in good health. Healthy enough to carry his recently acquired studio kit to his lock up.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:11 #3669

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electricdreams wrote:
Probably being very slow here and something I should have caught, but where does this alcohol / Tennant's Super thing come from?

I know Gareth's pics are largely booze-based (do people really drink in the bath?) but I mean for Ickey senior...

I've been known to have a whisky while having a bath.
I've also been known to have a shower beer. It's something you must try at least once. :chuckle:

Shower Beer


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If anyone's wondering that's not me in the picture.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:12 #3670

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I too was puzzled by those accounts released by Liz Roberts. The rent for Wembley Point was definately £2,500 per month. I did read somewhere the rent for Ritchie Allen's Wembley home that DI was staying in was £1,200 a month so that is probably that figure. These accounts are probably nonsense anyway, they were far too quickly put together and not very accurate. For instance I know the actual studio equipment was bought from Kennington Studio's for £20,000 after it was negotiated down from £30,000. The office desks and furniture was 'free' from Teddington as they were simply going into large skips so they were collected and moved into the Wembley office in September.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:14 #3671

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atlantean wrote:
No I don't think i'm the mole you refer to. He did mention myself and Mark Welsh as people trying to bring it all down but I wasn't trying to do that at all. I private emailed DI with all my concerns a number of times with only petty ramblings remarks back, only the did I go to Earthlinggb. I have had recent communications with him after the Sonia Poulton episode earlier this month. I think I am just an irritation to him to be honest!

Fair enought Atlantean.

Personally, I would have liked TPV to succeed - however, my suspicion is that it was never meant to work. Either that or we have let some of the most incompetent people on the planet get access to a shit load of funding that is going to be pissed down the drain. Private Limited Company should have been a warning sign FFS. This really is a travesty.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:16 #3672

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atlantean wrote:
No I don't think i'm the mole you refer to. He did mention myself and Mark Welsh as people trying to bring it all down but I wasn't trying to do that at all. I private emailed DI with all my concerns a number of times with only petty ramblings remarks back, only the did I go to Earthlinggb. I have had recent communications with him after the Sonia Poulton episode earlier this month. I think I am just an irritation to him to be honest!

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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:17 #3673

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knobmeup wrote:
Incidentally, has Icke ever cross linked Bormann's flight capital program with Operation Paperclip?
Or has he steered clear of that very well documented, legitimate 'conspiracy'. You know, the one where the Nazis set about building the Fourth Reich by working hand in hand with the globalist corporatist scumbag bread head psychos?

I've read most of his books & he's never mentioned that.... he goes on about Operation Paperclip but that's hardly a secret these days.
Jim Marrs's 'Rise of the 4th Reich' deals with it in detail though. Maybe nobody told Ickey for him to go repeating it.... or maybe it exposes the nazis a bit too much for Ickey's liking.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:20 #3674

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atlantean wrote:
No I don't think i'm the mole you refer to. He did mention myself and Mark Welsh as people trying to bring it all down but I wasn't trying to do that at all. I private emailed DI with all my concerns a number of times with only petty ramblings remarks back, only the did I go to Earthlinggb. I have had recent communications with him after the Sonia Poulton episode earlier this month. I think I am just an irritation to him to be honest!

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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:20 #3675

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atlantean wrote:
I too was puzzled by those accounts released by Liz Roberts. The rent for Wembley Point was definately £2,500 per month.

So, by my calculation, over a 7 month period the figure for rent in the so-called accounts should have been £17,500 not £1200?

That's an enormous slip-up!
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:21 #3676

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Wise Haven wrote:
Personally, I would have liked TPV to succeed -.

So did I, if only for the genuine folks giving over their hard earned (and ever diminishing) cash and investing also their hopes and trust.
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:24 #3677

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revlovejoy wrote:
chandrakavi wrote:
Babs wrote:
atlantean wrote:
Hi Gilly,

No I'm not the same Atlantean, but use that ID on the DIF and Wordpress. I'm an ex TPV volunteer and gave Earthlinggb plenty of titbits for his blogs back end of last year. I knew alot that went on at TPV between July - October. Also having direct contact with the great man himself he has definately lost the plot!!! He even mentioned my name - Ian Kelly - in his Sonia Poulton rant.

Atlantean - Ian K

Hi Atlantean nice to see you here :D I am often on Earthlinggb's blog and mention it where I can.

I have wondered about David maybe having some kind of mental meltdown rather than this supposed adrenal fatigue he has...........


Alcohol?

Underlying mental health issues, of which David icke has a lifelong association with, excessive alcohol and stress are a toxic mix.

I know he has addressed some issues, admitting his 1991 breakdown was just that, was very brave.

Im sure Sean tabatabi will be in good health. Healthy enough to carry his recently acquired studio kit to his lock up.

Icky's not getting any younger is he? I have a bit to do with elderly people and dementia of all kind can start early on in your 50's even (maybe younger I don't know) anyway this one night this lady refused to go back into her flat and was sitting outside and she was terrified as she said there was a man in there tryiing to steal her money. Another time I was in her flat and had to sit with her until her son came as she swore there were children in her flat. Her hallucinations were so real she was physically shaking with fear. So I started wondering if all his shape shifting lizards and moon is a hologram were some kind of visual disturbances caused by dementia......

People with dementia may experience problems with their sight which cause them to misinterpret the world around them. In some cases, people with dementia can experience hallucinations.

Vision and perception

Seeing is a complicated process that involves many different stages. Information is transmitted from your eyes to your brain where it is then interpreted, alongside information from your other senses, thoughts and memories. You then become aware of what you have seen (it is 'perceived'). Problems that involve both vision and perception can be referred to as 'visuoperceptual difficulties'. As there are many different stages involved in the seeing process, various types and combinations of mistakes can occur. Common mistakes include:

Illusions – what the person sees is a 'distortion of reality'. This may result from a particular characteristic of the object, such as its surface being shiny or it being the same colour as the wall behind. An example might be seeing a face in a patterned curtain.

Misperceptions – what the person sees is a 'best guess' at the inaccurate or distorted information the brain has received from the eyes. This is usually the result of damage to the visual system due to diseases such as glaucoma. For example, a shadow on the carpet could be mistaken for a hole in the floor.

Misidentifications – damage to specific parts of the brain can lead to problems identifying objects and people. For example, distinguishing between a son, husband or brother may become difficult.

It is easy to see how these mistakes may lead to the person saying or doing things that make others think they are having delusions. However, what the person is experiencing is not a true delusion (it is not based on incorrect reasoning or 'delusional thinking') but is the result of damage to the visual system
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:28 #3678

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" the actual studio equipment was bought from Kennington Studio's for £20,000 after it was negotiated down from £30,000."


Wow! Not 142k?
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Mother Damnable wrote:
Hey Yeah I'm good thanks :>)

Just wrote my conclusions out in the comments at Mama D's

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

Comments 45 and 46.

It has been lovely to watch people regain their power and freedom, hugs to eveyone for your kind hearts :>)

It is also good to watch people be able to speak out with no fear of recriminations.

As far as Dick and Shawn's lega; claims.....to claim for libel one must already have a good name, Wogan put paid to that years and years ago. Pair of pathetic little mis information muppert :killinme: :killinme: :killinme:

Interesting read - Thank you
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The People's Voice 26 Jan 2014 17:31 #3680

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marina wrote:
" the actual studio equipment was bought from Kennington Studio's for £20,000 after it was negotiated down from £30,000."


Wow! Not 142k?

Definately not £142k. TPV did have to get outside contractors in to sound proof the actual studio itself and get the AC right so that would have cost around £5/10k fr 3 weeks work. But no the equipment was bought very cheaply as Teddington studio's was closing down and everything they needed was available.
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