unmasked wrote:
It was Ken O'Keefe and Elissa Hawke on Wakey Wakey. I didn't see it, but the alleged quote was something like 'Right, we can get the other stuff out now'.

unmasked wrote:
well to be quite honest , i take my truth as truth , i don't like bullshit , i love calling out on bullshit wether it be icke , cameron , oioioi or the fukin pope .

now if the guy in this thread ian ? has got something to say for fuk sake say it

all this he said she said it maybe could have been nonsense , is bullshit

now i have got my slippers on , i'm gona get all karen dunbar on all the bullshit i see

I was invited to speak at a gathering of people at a location in the Amazon rain forest about an hour´s drive or so from Manaus in northern Brazil. The event, over ten days, would offer the participants the opportunity to experience the 'psychoactive' effects of a plant called ayahuasca, which has been used by South American shamans for hundreds of years (at least) to take people into other states of consciousness beyond the five sense realm.

Ayahuasca is known as the "teacher plant" because it allows people to experience these unseen realms where so much can be learned about self, life and reality. It is also dubbed the "plant of the gods", no doubt because it can allow you to see those dimensions where the "gods" of myth reside. In fact, it was the number of times that participants at these events had seen reptilian entities and imagery in their altered states of awareness that led the organizers to invite me.

Ayahuasca is much used in religious ceremonies and rituals in parts of Brazil and it is quite legal in such circumstances. Around the "Western World" it is largely illegal to own or take the brew, as it is with potions in general that can transport our conscious awareness beyond the five senses. I wonder why?? I jumped at the chance to accept the Amazon offer, although I had some reservations at one point when I learned of the possible physical effects of vomiting and shitting with a vengeance.

Once I was assured that the participants would be made aware of this before they proceeded, I agreed to be there. I knew this was the dimensional door I was looking for to take the next step in my journey I had reached the age of 50 without consuming a single drug or potion that was labelled "psychoactive"; no magic mushrooms, no nothing. But I could go no further in my understanding without taking my conscious awareness to places beyond the veil.

I also learned that even those who were regular experiencers of mushrooms and other such reality changers were aware that ayahuasca was immensely powerful. "You have never taken anything and you are starting with that?" I was asked. Ayahuasca contains many powerful hallucinogenic properties including Dimethyltryptamine or DMT, a naturally occurring component of the metabolism of mammals and plants. DMT is known by some as the "spirit molecule".
www.soulwise.net/99-dicke.htm

Here it is - at 23 minutes - she says 'Break out the...oh, we're not on break...I was just just about to say 'break out the other stuff'.

musky wrote:

Oh what! That's rubbish!

- But thank you for finding it

No wonder the post I read was deleted as it def mentioned 'snowing'.

Chinese whispers eh?

musky wrote:
Ahhhhhh , the other stuff out now

playdoh , lego , etc etc

this certainly is a game of chinese whispers


let me start

i farted

by the end of this thread i'll have died while choking on my shit

unmasked wrote:
I've posted before but when Elissa interviewed Ken on Wakey Wakey they were sat about drinking what looked what water. Then, they thought they'd cut to a break (but the mics were still on), and one of them said something like 'now we can get the other stuff out'.

Not suggesting anything - I just found it incredibly 'odd'

<edit> just seen the above posts so that probably came from me. I don't think just 'hackers' are responsible for the vids being taking off before being reuploaded (what is it now - a couple of weeks since Icke said the volunteers were sweating blood, sweat and tears to do that?). Maybe once they get the editing suite they want I'll bet a hole lot more content suddenly goes back up

musky wrote:
Controlled opposition? Create noise and distractions?

One ''platform'' for an 'alternative voice' is easier to control and direct than multiple platforms?

Even if it were genuine - it would also be easier to nobble.

musky wrote:
Having had lunch with Ellisa Hawke in Leicester Square last September she mentioned she used drugs, but I think only the more recreational ones. She certainly couldn't afford to buy anything like uncle Charlie as she was living in a camper van in Brixton initially with hardly any money. Whether there was actually stuff being used in the TPV studio's behind the kitchen area as has been suggested is anyone's guess.

Well hey-ho, I have no opinion either way on drug use tbh (consenting adults, using their own grown / earned money), just that in light of everything else we've heard I started to wonder whether TPV is indeed run very much inline with MSM studio values.

Difference being of course MSM can afford to 'pamper' their staff & guests.
To think donators are cutting back on food bills to give money to the cause for it to be spent on (we know) pizza & beer is one thing - to be feeding other indulgances is another.

(from that phrasing I believe she would likely have been referring to alcohol, from drinking water, just mho )

scaltura wrote:
When the fuck did I end up in their company?

unmasked wrote:
It is possible of course that any possible substances brought into TPV, and it's still only conjecture, were purchased with their own money.

unmasked wrote:

atlantean wrote:
couldn't afford charlie , but uses other recreational ones ?

weed can be more expensive than charlie

maybe the only thing cheaper is glue

she partakes in a little good time so fuking what , all the power to her

she looks a stoner to me

living in a camper , defo my kinda chic

oioioi wrote:
don't get all precious on me , i was using you as an example , not like yer boozem buddies

<<< passes oi his wig back

scaltura wrote:


Freedom of speech works both ways and oi is not gonna get insulted without an answer from people here who know him and value his time, effor and friendship.

Hoping that's a joke.

scaltura wrote: I'm glad it wasn't only me thinking this, I thought my standards were lowering...

In all seriousness, I couldn't give a shit whether anyone is partaking in coke or not. All drugs should be decriminalised, I don't want to live in a world where the state dictates "this drug is good, these drugs are really good, these drugs are bad". Fucking do what you want, as far as I'm concerned, just realise that getting mixed up with the nose cheese drains your bank balance, delivers ever diminishing returns and makes you behave like an idiot. Some people have to find out the hard way.

I agree that if funds were being procured for recreational drugs this would not be good, but we have zero evidence of this.

Yeah, I don't care who takes what, but if I'd handed over my hard earned cash (which I didn't) I'd want to be sure they were squeaky clean - in that they were spending it properly.

Speculation as to the possibility of them blowing it on drugs might be doing them an injustice, BUT, if there'd been openness from day 1, as there should have been, about the finances and everything else - or even if Icke had reacted differently at being questioned and hadn't thrown the mother of all hissy-fits, it would never have been an issue.

There's much to indicate there've been dodgier goings on than frittering cash on lavish expenses anyway.

I hope it all comes out in the wash.

mikey mikey wrote:
S'ok. I deleted 'yer twat' off the end of my initial response.

Gilly wrote: I can understand this, but as soon as people start talking about 'drugs' I think it can become a bit emotive. I mean, no-one would bat an eyelid if they were getting pissed.



I probably should say that was a joke from Brass Eye.