tumbleweed wrote:
white horse wrote:
(I've snipped your post WH - hope that's ok..)
.........I wont publically discuss the points infractions here, well not yet anyway, and I don't intend to get into a spit-spat war, I've spent two days furiously trying NOT to post at the Abusers and Infiltrators thread but I just could not let that slide... it was weak of me to continue, but I'm not being taken for a fucking idiot. There is an excellent post made by someone at DIF many years ago, about how to spot shills, agents, trolls etc, and how to behave, it was by a regular at the 911 forums and acted as a guide for newbies to help them not get sucked into the regular forum traps. I'll be darned if I can't find that post, it was excellently written, (I will continue to search for it!). The Abusers and Infiltrators thread should be used as an illustrative example to that 'How to spot...' post, I mean it has everything in it in such low number of pages, I've never seen anything like it! If you had to sit down and write a scripted example of how a forum thread would look like with one of everything in it, you couldn't do it neater than that thread....
This is another troll-spotting link I found... I just noticed it in my bookmark folder.
www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1061416023&postcount=54
(Sorry if everybody's forgotten about it now... I get a bit ocd about such things...

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I don't personally believe that these trolls have an agenda they are amusing themselves by arguing with posters about anything.
A shill would be a paid informer working for a third party, would it not?
I don't believe that anyone would pay anyone to shill in DIF, as most reasonable people think Icke nuts anyhow, so that nutty tag will be extended to his forum posters,.
As for the list of categories on your link, I think we are all guilty of some of those actions at times, I honestly believe that the average internet troll has no real interest in setting an agenda, they are merely enjoying the drama, when posters/members react to their provocation.
An example of a real shill is someone paid to attend an auction, he first creates an interest in certain items on sale, he/she then bumps up the price by false bidding, or works on punters in other situations thus.
Shills in truth seeking platforms don't exist, some posters mistakenly term trolls as shills, as this suits their cause, because if tptb are sending the 'shills' in, then they themselves must be on the right track = straw man.
It's normally trolls or people that don't believe conspiracies, they are arguing for their own means, I very much doubt anyone would pay a shill to post on DIF.
The term shill is generally used by forum members to create straw man opposition to their posts, when trolls or people who don't believe in the conspiracies that are posted, turn up.
Maybe I got it all wrong, that's just the way that I have always seen it.