Arthur wrote:
someone has replied - gildan t shirts again

Has there been any announcement regarding what happens next? Not that I actually care, I just wondered. I haven't watched any of TPV, but some of the material looks okay, I just don't see anything that isn't being done elsewhere. Or what difference it will make. Or what difference it made when it was / is done elsewhere.

F&C has time to post at the DIF to peek into the subject of someone possibly stitching him up then?

So what is currently going out live on TPV that will push the levels and boundaries and give us a voice?

Gareth Icke is discussing the pop group Nirvana.

No different to what BBC Radio Countyshire is probably doing.

Nice one, Dave!

Timelord wrote:
Interesting name, might give them a listen. I'd never have discovered such a band without paradigm breaking info outlets like TPV

thoreau wrote:
There were posts in that thread linking to this wiki article about their dodgy ethics, but surprise surprise it's been wiped off the forum.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gildan_Activewear#...tive_labor_practices

Princie wrote:

Result

Ha! Anyone seen the TPV Facebook page in the last hour?

Greencard wrote:




I didn't click the link, not something I want to see

wake_up_bomb wrote:
I think such channels give an alternative to MSM, however an alternative does not need to be a challenge, and there imo is Icke's TPV mistake, if as he said TPV was to directly challenge MSM with regards to broadcasting standards, equipment, style, material, censorship, etc... then TPV has failed, £400,000 plus has been spent and no challenge has been noted, has it?

If the rhetoric was to provide an alternative, that may start quite low key, and perhaps can be used as a platform for bringing other low key alternatives together, then that would have been another matter.

I think other programmes such as UK column news and Richplanet do provide alternative perspectives on stories, but seem to do so without badgering their viewers for donations, by making huge appeals, fundraising campaigns, begging videos, pleading video's etc....

The above donation appeals are to challenge the MSM (we hear) not only for alternative programming. (as that already exists)

PS btw there is already consciousness TV available in case you/they don't know.

conscious.tv/

No donations being asked for, as far as I could see.

Princie wrote:
You're very welcome mate, he woke me up big time

Space Bandit wrote:
Ooh we might get sued. Well good luck mate I ain't got nuffin.

GP you are so right!!

TPV campaign 1 = 8427 donors - £300,692.00

TPV campaign 2 = 2800 donors - £103.163.00

That's a hell of a lot of people who have dropped out!!! 5627 to be precise.

I wonder if they will dare try another campaign?

Seems like TPV have been fluffing you tube views

So Nick from Fear and clothing has found out that TPV are using Gildan to supply the t shirts... oh dear.

Fancy Ickey using a company like that with such horrendous exploitative practices!!

Babs wrote:
The first campaign was when people had high hopes for TPV. The second was after people had sampled the (largely) crap output - not to mention publicity over various bust ups within the organisation.

anny333 wrote:
And what does Icke say about unethical brands,that he will give them the middle finger

The shirt labels come from all the big manufacturers: Jansport, Fruit of the Loom, Hanes and Gildan. They also say that the shirts were almost certainly made in sweatshops

not the first time icke has gone for gildan - huge thread on it a few years ago on dif

Yep and each and every one of us are "mongs" - wealthy ones by the look of it too