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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 14:36 #4921

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Here's a thing - possibly covered in this thread, about the T-shirt perk from the original campaign, seems as though a couple are asking where they are:

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267906

and one user 'madakt' says they received theirs, and then 'fearandclothing' who I thought was to be delivering the shirts asks:

What is the quality like if you don't mind me asking?
I'd like to know what method they used for the print (screen printed or heat pressed garment vinyl) and also what brand of shirts (Gildan?) they used and where the blank shirts were produced (Haiti?).
If you could tell us all it would be greatly appreciated!

someone has replied - gildan t shirts again

There were posts in that thread linking to this wiki article about their dodgy ethics, but surprise surprise it's been wiped off the forum.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gildan_Activewear#...tive_labor_practices
The employees of Gildan are obviously sheeple who haven't bought any of David's books, otherwise they would know how to create a better reality. :norty:
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 15:15 #4922

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I posted on the ethics of using said shirt provider and the post was removed along with points issued. I was then some time later suspended for being "disruptive". :spank:
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 16:06 #4923

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Ian2day wrote:
I posted on the ethics of using said shirt provider and the post was removed along with points issued. I was then some time later suspended for asking perfectly reasonable questions. :spank:

Fixed it for ya :)
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 19:39 #4924

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Even the hand full of people now posting on TPV across there are not impressed by the look of it...

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268075
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 20:01 #4925

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Should we put the kettle on?
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 20:35 #4926

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LOL, D.Icke hasn't read his own book, I find that hard to believe.

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www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267990&page=2


Damn, I need a sock.... wanna read Icke's posts on the forum.... infinite love blah blah.... according to Icke, quote this and that.... buy "his" books etc. :killinme:
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 20:57 #4927

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Gilly wrote:
Even the hand full of people now posting on TPV across there are not impressed by the look of it...

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268075

I'm surprised the TPV sub-forum hasn't been closed.
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 21:05 #4928

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See that quote? What an absolute pack of out & out gobbledy-gook. He's given 'Consciousness' a capital C, so I should give my 'Gobbledy-gook' a capital G.

No wonder he doesn't post on forums. If he posted such drivel as that anonymously, many, many people would feel compelled to kick the bejesus out of the pretentious jack-ass.He'd be chewed up & spat out. :rab:

By his own logic then, his Consciousness has chosen to create for himself,the experience of being a BS merchant, with all the resulting celeb style adoration of a few, and derision of a lot. His Consciousness is an oaf.
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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 21:28 #4929

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simulacra wrote:
The employees of Gildan are obviously sheeple who haven't bought any of David's books, otherwise they would know how to create a better reality. :norty:

:yup:



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The People's Voice 06 Feb 2014 21:33 #4930

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I must have missed it. Why do folk think this seanx is icke?
Iirc, in the 'rumours' thread, seanx was quite complimentary about this place, whilst at the time, icke was calling us sad wankers...
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 00:06 #4931

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I'm not sure that I like TPV, I think it's because the population of it are pretentious, wankers, arseholes, liars, fakers, cheats, con-artists, feeble minded cretins, low life, skid marks, tools, tits and fuckwits.
Agitating, creepy and all together rather poor.
They stink, they rot, they shit from their mouths, they give truth a bad name, a name of speculation, illusion, corrupt perspectives, a name of bogus crap, family gang banging and absolute incestuous group think.

To me TPV hates itself, as it projects the very themes that it's meant to challenge.
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 00:11 #4932

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I always go the impression that if Icke was on the forum he was Miss Hope.
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 00:25 #4933

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
I think such channels give an alternative to MSM, however an alternative does not need to be a challenge, and there imo is Icke's TPV mistake, if as he said TPV was to directly challenge MSM with regards to broadcasting standards, equipment, style, material, censorship, etc... then TPV has failed, £400,000 plus has been spent and no challenge has been noted, has it?

If the rhetoric was to provide an alternative, that may start quite low key, and perhaps can be used as a platform for bringing other low key alternatives together, then that would have been another matter.
Part of me thinks it's bordering on impossible to do something better than RT. Obviously RT has nothing valid to say about Russia at all, but they do a good job of reporting on Europe and the United States, they produce the sort of content that the BBC should actually produce given that it's supposed to be a public service broadcaster. It would take a big effort to do something as slick as just the Keiser and Abby Martin programmes on RT, which is only about 4-5 hours programming per week, and not live television.

On the other hand, another part of me thinks that it must be possible for resources to be pooled and everyone put their differences aside, whatever they are, and to produce something of quality that could be broadcast on mainstream television. There is enough interest, enough information, enough material and enough talent to do it; ergo, it should be possible to make enough money to pay your staff and break even. It's all very well and good having stuff on the Internet, but it should be clear by now that this is going to have no significant impact. It's probable that a TV channel would have no significant impact, but it would have a chance. At this point in time, I view everything else as pretty much a waste of time, no matter how good and well meaning it is.
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 00:46 #4934

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dubmeup wrote:
I must have missed it. Why do folk think this seanx is icke?
Iirc, in the 'rumours' thread, seanx was quite complimentary about this place, whilst at the time, icke was calling us sad wankers...

Dunno Dub, but we know Icke is a two faced liar, nothing surprises me. DI is definitely reading the forum, you think he can contain himself and not post? :killinme: I doubt.
seanx registered sometime in 2007, can't check the month for sure (no socks), but he's been around for a long time. I think it's Icke, and if you seen him on warning (I did too, for a short time) it's probably because not even the mods know his true identity, maybe just sean.
seanx seems to be a good match, if it's not him, it's someone else. Despite Icke saying he "doesn't care" about anyone's opinions about him, he does care as was proven by recent events, so naturally he would be interested to see what's said, and having an account makes it easier to keep track of stuff (subscribe, member's profile, recent posts etc), it's a pain without one.
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 00:50 #4935

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Blue_Tackler wrote:
I think such channels give an alternative to MSM, however an alternative does not need to be a challenge, and there imo is Icke's TPV mistake, if as he said TPV was to directly challenge MSM with regards to broadcasting standards, equipment, style, material, censorship, etc... then TPV has failed, £400,000 plus has been spent and no challenge has been noted, has it?

If the rhetoric was to provide an alternative, that may start quite low key, and perhaps can be used as a platform for bringing other low key alternatives together, then that would have been another matter.
Part of me thinks it's bordering on impossible to do something better than RT. Obviously RT has nothing valid to say about Russia at all, but they do a good job of reporting on Europe and the United States, they produce the sort of content that the BBC should actually produce given that it's supposed to be a public service broadcaster. It would take a big effort to do something as slick as just the Keiser and Abby Martin programmes on RT, which is only about 4-5 hours programming per week, and not live television.

On the other hand, another part of me thinks that it must be possible for resources to be pooled and everyone put their differences aside, whatever they are, and to produce something of quality that could be broadcast on mainstream television. There is enough interest, enough information, enough material and enough talent to do it; ergo, it should be possible to make enough money to pay your staff and break even. It's all very well and good having stuff on the Internet, but it should be clear by now that this is going to have no significant impact. It's probable that a TV channel would have no significant impact, but it would have a chance. At this point in time, I view everything else as pretty much a waste of time, no matter how good and well meaning it is.

I can only hazard a guess that a 'TPV' channel could work, It would need to be a framework, a space where alternative perspectives can be displayed, if you think about the term 'voice' it means sound, what TPV needs is to work as an amplifier for the sound of peoples voices, in such a way an individual can have their voice heard, or groups can have their voices heard, so be it a solo instrument or an orchestra, TPV needs to be no more than the stage on which the instrument (voice) is played, it would provide the legal framework, the equipment and knowhow, it would be a bit like an alternative networking agency, people would need to pay a little perhaps to have their say, or perhaps post for free on an attached forum, the problem with this TPV is that Icke has filled it with his cronies.
What I would like is to see a platform where people who have had injustices such as Robert Green (Hollie Greg) would have a platform to exchange information with the public, a place where even the likes of Gorgeous George (Galloway) can have his say, also people that can have a bit of a rant exchange about their personal issues with tptb, as for art etc.... surely we want to give an outlet to those who have talent but lack opportunity, all in all Icke had a chance and fucked it up, by dot connecting and supporting his own causes like a selfish prick, I'm sure sooner or later there will be a format as described, it would only take the right entrepreneur(s).
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 05:32 #4936

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Gilly wrote:
Even the hand full of people now posting on TPV across there are not impressed by the look of it...

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268075

OP was a forum user for 5 years and asked a couple of questions and is now suspended!! :roll:
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 05:35 #4937

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marina wrote:
LOL, D.Icke hasn't read his own book, I find that hard to believe.

J5kxmo


www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267990&page=2


Damn, I need a sock.... wanna read Icke's posts on the forum.... infinite love blah blah.... according to Icke, quote this and that.... buy "his" books etc. :killinme:

Are you saying seanx is DAVID ICKE????? :O :O :O
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www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264286&page=10

They have to give up 9% of that??? I thought it was only 4%.

Just looked and since they didn't meet the £400k target that means they need to give 9% to Indiegogo That's £9,300


So it seems that TPV have to give Indiegogo a huge chunk of that money raised. I wonder how the donors feel about that? :umm:
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The People's Voice 07 Feb 2014 06:55 #4939

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Babs wrote:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264286&page=10

They have to give up 9% of that??? I thought it was only 4%.

Just looked and since they didn't meet the £400k target that means they need to give 9% to Indiegogo That's £9,300


So it seems that TPV have to give Indiegogo a huge chunk of that money raised. I wonder how the donors feel about that? :umm:

I can't see anyone being pleased with that, yet comments will be made on all forums and facebook pages, which will of course lead to removal of posts and banning.

Fuck this 'free speech' of TPV.. Fucking hypocrites.
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Gilly wrote:
Even the hand full of people now posting on TPV across there are not impressed by the look of it...

www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268075

He's been suspended :roflha:
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