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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 20:44 #5441

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Surely 5400+ posts has covered it, anyone who does not know by now that it's a con is beyond help.

Personally I never gave a dime or bought a book, the only reason I used DIF was because it was a place to discuss alternative topics.

I hardly ever agreed with a word the icke fan club said, and questioned TPV from the outset (when I heard about it)

I knew it was a rip off, from the moment I found out about the equipment 'needed' and the financial backing asked for.....

Anyone who states the Queen of England is a reptile (literally) and then asks for cash gets the alarm bells ringing...

To some degree I don't blame icke, I blame the clueless fucking idiots who have fallen for his blag. (always have always will) :dunno:

This is my final icke bashing post, though I might include his 'activities' when I post about other topics in other threads when dodgy business is being discussed, rather than dedicating any more posts to icke, or clicking on DIF where the webmaster will be pleased for each click/visit.
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 20:53 #5442

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Well thats fine Blue Tackler. In one sense I agree with what you say - but, I will continue to post about Icke and TPV here, just so that people, who might still be taken in, or are somewhat confused about Icke, who find thier way here can see what is really going on.
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 20:58 #5443

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Surely 5400+ posts has covered it, anyone who does not know by now that it's a con is beyond help.

Personally I never gave a dime or bought a book, the only reason I used DIF was because it was a place to discuss alternative topics.

I hardly ever agreed with a word the icke fan club said, and questioned TPV from the outset (when I heard about it)

I knew it was a rip off, from the moment I found out about the equipment 'needed' and the financial backing asked for.....

Anyone who states the Queen of England is a reptile (literally) and then asks for cash gets the alarm bells ringing...

To some degree I don't blame icke, I blame the clueless fucking idiots who have fallen for his blag. (always have always will) :dunno:

This is my final icke bashing post, though I might include his 'activities' when I post about other topics in other threads when dodgy business is being discussed, rather than dedicating any more posts to icke, or clicking on DIF where the webmaster will be pleased for each click/visit.

Well thanks for that Blue Tackler, sorry we are not all as enlightened as yourself. I hope it's not too lonely for you up there in your ivory tower.
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 20:59 #5444

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:spanknov: my bad.
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 21:02 #5445

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I knew I was gonna regret voting yes on this one..... :facepalm:
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we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 21:07 #5446

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psketti heeeeeelp !! I've agitated the Icke bashing brigade :AAAAHHHH:
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 21:19 #5447

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
dime...

the Queen of England

:coffee:
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The People's Voice 07 Mar 2014 21:25 #5448

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Figures of speech, and I'm not in England or English, thus I refer to her as that.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 00:05 #5449

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Here yu go folks - our Q+A Perk

https://vimeo.com/88481100

Hope that plays without the password, but in case you need it: perk123

Edit: not making any comments ye because I haven't yet watched it - posted it here first :)
Last Edit: 08 Mar 2014 00:06 by Quality Street. Reason: added edit
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 00:11 #5450

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Cheers QS!!! :)
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 00:12 #5451

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perk123 - Password
"Like a lotus flower that grows out of the mud and blossoms above the muddy water surface,
we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
Last Edit: 08 Mar 2014 01:21 by marina.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 00:13 #5452

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Your welcome!
Mine is the first question answered - I am not happy with the answer and he's starting to get airiated. :lolplac:
Last Edit: 08 Mar 2014 00:14 by Quality Street.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 00:20 #5453

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thanks qs couldnt make the link work so ty also to marina :)
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 02:19 #5454

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I watched the DI video too. He spent half of it defending TPV and the other half talking about Ukraine. I wonder how many questions were received and how many were actually answered? I personally sent him about 20 questions and not one was answered!

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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 02:55 #5455

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That's a shame Atlantean :( I'm guessing many, many people didn't get thier question(s) answered, and I think thats because David likes to waffle on at length.

Well I suppose I'm lucky because he actually mentioned mine, which I deliberately kept simple & to the point because there were potentially 1046 people with questions. So I was surprised to hear mine, but (true to form) he never actually answered it.

I asked "Given that TPV is about to launch it's 3rd Indeigogo campaign, could you please tell us when a full & comprehensive accounting of all TPV's outgoings and income (from all sources) will be released?"

My question was 'when'.
He then waffled on for half an hour all around the subject of TPV, money, TPV content and accounting, people tryna destroy TPV, blah, blah, blah, but did not actually answer what I asked. He could have answered this in less than one minute, but chose to spend one third of the length of the Q&A not actually answering it. :umm:

The whole thing was about on a par with what I expected - he spent an hour and a half telling us absolutely nothing new that couldn't easily have been gleaned from other sources.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 03:27 #5456

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wow... people are complaining about everything and not looking at the content? Most of the critisicm bar the genuine abuse and calls for transparency has been about content - wtf, lock in, monica whats her faces programme, are just three parts of content that people have criticised, Then there is the guests, the questions not asked verses the questions asked - all to do with content.

TPV is doing accounts like everyone else - LIke everyone else? wtf thought tpv was supposed to be different?

Ask the questions mainstream media wont touch? like fuck has it - paxman asks far more probing and pertinent questions and he is a total toad.

Have tpv reached the goal they set out to? erm if that goal was to take half a million at least of donators money and spend it to create an out of date tv studio that broadcasts in the main utter drivel via the internet then yes mission accomplished with aplomb.

With the economic climate as it is, russel brand and other celebrities unafraid to speak publicly about alternative issues and social media connecting people with new information the time has never been better to start an alternative media station. So how did tpv get it all so spectacularly wrong from the start?

by attempting to climb mount everest in sandals and a bikini - they started off too big, too clunky and too unprepared.
by, if not lying, then insinuating tpv would be something it clearly is not
by not having a clear and tested strategy for financing the project
by not being transparent from the beginning over financial issues
through alienating many of the core supporters by not answering emails, failing provide information via icke.com to forum members and instead trying to separate the two when it suited - davids just a volunteer - but is the mouth piece for begging
by allowing over zealous moderators to silence discussion on the forum and on the facebook pages - negative feedback (not abuse but genuine concerns and criticisms) should have been addressed not deleted
mishandling sonia poultons leaving
constant appeals for more money
contradictory information
awful establishment guests that themselves alienate viewers
nepotism
doom mongering rather than offering solutions
seans utter silence and failure to engage with those he is asking to watch and donate
hiring media 'professionals' as opposed to actually getting 'the people' involved from the ground up
arrogant dismissal of anyone who has concerns as being bitter and not caring about the world they are leaving their children
by making some fucking horrendous shows



I could go on and on as david did in the video - but shant - he won't read it and even if he did I doubt he would in anyway take on board anything said.

I know that david wishes that we would all concentrate on the content - If we were to concentrate on content alone the bbc is not that bad - no worse than tpv itself - it is only when you look at the wider picture you see what a cesspool it is - same applies to tpv - as it should.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 04:22 #5457

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thoreau wrote:
I could go on

Please do thoreau - that was one of the best posts I've read re: DI & TPV for ages!
:bravo:
I wish I were so elequent - thank you.
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 07:27 #5458

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Agreed :thumbup: Well done Thoreau. :thumbup:

As expected no real answers just a load of old flannel about the content not the cash. :bla:

(Edited to add: Thanks for the link QS as funnily enough I did not get an invite to the party :P )

Further edited to say yes I did, it is now in the trash folder. :rofl:
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The People's Voice 08 Mar 2014 07:31 #5459

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I think I'll give the link a miss, and wait for Dystopia to make the film.
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Mr Icke's self important TPV 08 Mar 2014 08:41 #5460

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What 'video', this sounds almost word for word like his rant in January.
Seems to sidestep the real issues, so typical of the man.
So where's this new indiegogo campaign and do we know why that last Richie Allen video was pulled.
Maybe it's time we all ignored him and tpv.
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