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Re:The People's Voice 09 Mar 2014 18:27 #5501

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I found it kind of hard to believe he made a living off shitty books and speaking about moon lizards. That he's a sneaky little fucker breaking people's trust makes more sense.
Who thought the son of God would be sticky fingers
At the same time bats have you ever known a religion that said "No, don't you dare! There's no need for that!" when you pull your wallet out?

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I am not alleging that bats ever pulls his wallet out, for anything. ;) :gleek:
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I'm looking forward more than ever to seeing the accounts when they're finally published (assuming of course that the company isn't folded before the annual accounts are due). If all the fundraising money does not show up in the turnover then serious questions are going to be asked about where it's gone.

Thank you Atlantean for shedding more light on all this.
One thing WUB and others have mentioned is that they do not have a statutory obligation to file accounts, for some time and for many reasons.
So it isn't a compusory obligation.
However because many people voiced concern over what looked like the frittering away of funds - someone said there would be a voluntary unveiling of detailed accounts some time in the spring (don't quote me on that) It was plugged as a gesture of good will in the spirit of transparency.
So, legally they don't have to - but morally they have agreed to do it. Lets wait and see though. I wouldn't get too excited because it is sure to omit the details - and that is where the devil lays/lies :)
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Morally? What morals? They have none!
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we can rise above our defilements and sufferings of life" - Buddhist Value
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Morally? What morals? They have none!

Indeed - That's why those accounts will probably not see the light of day - but it's the thought that counts :roll: yes?
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I went along to the Camden Open Day on July 20th 2013 and offered my services on a full time basis as I had just been made redundant the previous week. I began work as part of the Admin team - three or four of us looking at around 5,000 unopened emails from the first Indiegogo campaign. This was how Ii came about the emails from Sean to the IOW on the £10,000 cheque...

I was given the link to the emails and worked from home. This then moved on to working in the Wembley studio from early September, cleaning and painting the whole place. It was tough! There was a situation in the middle of September when a racist comment was made by Deanna Amato in the presence of a black lady which although she said nothing at the time contacted me the following week and I gave her DI's private emails address to make a complaint directly. DI's response pretty much swept the whole thing under the carpet and she and two other volunteers immediately resigned their positions. Within a few days I was advised by Deanna Amato there was nothing else for me to do anymore and thank you, and she'd make contact should she need any further assistance. I found this strange seeing as there was a huge amount to do. However, I quickly realised it was very likely I was 'removed' from TPV as I was the last link there regarding knowing about the racist comment and they were simply removing me to protect themselves.

Around a month later this was rangling me and I emailed DI directly. His response was rude and totally unsatisfactory. A few emails back and forth then I left it.

Knowing what I know now it is very likely this whole thing has become, or was always meant to be a money making mission for DI, Sean Adl Tabatabai and Icke's family, even to the point now when there's the new company IKONIC Ads working with TPV...company dIrector Jamie Alexander Icke IOW. It is very likely money has been sent from the last Indiegogo campiagn ended Februray 3rd to this company. For what? If Jamie Icke was experienced in ethical advertising why didn't he offer his services for free like everyone else? Well to me it's clear, money was almost certainly re-directed to the new company deliberately. The whole thing stinks,

Thank God I saw the light!

I have pointed out here and there on this site and on Earthlinggb's blog that these "racist" remarks from Deanna the Australian are not as racist as they appear to Brits in this country. Once again I will re-iterate that the word WOG does not mean the same in the UK as it does to an Australian.

It has NOTHING AT ALL to do with black people but more is interpreted as Greek, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or Slavic than anybody black. It is a word that is of common usage in Australia even by people of this background themselves. My own grand-daughters being English on their mother's side and Macedonian on their father's side refer to themselves as WOGS.

Look it up there are TV and theatres shows called WOGS OUT OF WORK and so forth.

I am in no way defending Deanna but I do believe this has been blown out of all proportion. Aussies have a nickname for most any nationality. It may not be OUR way, but it is THEIR way.
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I'm looking forward more than ever to seeing the accounts when they're finally published (assuming of course that the company isn't folded before the annual accounts are due). If all the fundraising money does not show up in the turnover then serious questions are going to be asked about where it's gone.

Thank you Atlantean for shedding more light on all this.
One thing WUB and others have mentioned is that they do not have a statutory obligation to file accounts, for some time and for many reasons.
So it isn't a compusory obligation.
However because many people voiced concern over what looked like the frittering away of funds - someone said there would be a voluntary unveiling of detailed accounts some time in the spring (don't quote me on that) It was plugged as a gesture of good will in the spirit of transparency.
So, legally they don't have to - but morally they have agreed to do it. Lets wait and see though. I wouldn't get too excited because it is sure to omit the details - and that is where the devil lays/lies :)

Exactly.

Their statutory obligation is only to file abbreviated accounts but they have committed to filing full accounts. If they don't do what they've promised to do, it's going to stink. If they do it and the accounts reveal issues of concern, questions will be asked.

Ickey and co had better be whiter than white here. Oh sorry, David keeps reminding us he's not a director, so it's nothing to do with him. :roll:

I'll end this post with a phrase that David might want to keep in mind - "shadow director"....
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Re:The People's Voice 09 Mar 2014 21:08 #5507

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They've not kept most of their promises... is there anything to stop them reneging on that and just providing their statutory obligation?

If there's anything shady to hide obviously it'll get buried. It would be most foolhardy to give themselves away in such a manner.
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Slightly off the current topic on accounts etc. but an interesting post just up on DIF from Bograt.
https://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1062021056&postcount=8 (I note that this post has been edited by a mod too)

I absolutely agree...this was supposed to be The Peoples Voice but it's not turned out as many of us expected. People's input is really minimal and controlled. There is an almost complete communication breakdown between the Peoples Voice administration and the viewers and would be participants and all serious constructive criricism has been ignored. I am not looking to The Peoples Voice to be The David Icke Channel. I enjoy some of his perspectives and understandings but at other times I do not identify with him at all. I am not looking for a Guru or leader and I don't want the Peoples Voice to turn into a cult.
Many of the presenters do not really understand or are not really behind some of the important issues that come up in front of them. Richie (although probably a very nice man) is completely out of his depth and skips over some very important and crucial points that people put in front of him. I feel very uncomfortable with his relationship with David on the Newspaper readthrough.
It feels like he is slightly sycophantic and cowed and takes a back seat somehow to David. As a constructive criticism I would say to David, In a conversational situation allow the other person to have a say without immediately regaining control of the conversation.
I have written to The Peoples Voice on a number of occasions and not received even one reply.
I think that The Peoples Voice fails very much on it's ability to deal with continuity issues and sound issues and how to deal respectfully and meaningfully with the interest and input from people who have supported the Channel, (financially and otherwise) to get it on the air.
Although we have seen some very interesting items on The Peoples Voice it is not working as and is coming across as very amateurish. A lot of the time is taken putting on shows that shouldn't really be aired and aren't even of a highschool standard. "The Lock" in and music stuff is poor and the meditation time isn't really necessary. It's sort of "cute" but I'd rather watch something than waste my bandwidth listening to new agey musak.
Phone ins are good with a decent presenter who has some understanding of the topics that might be raised. I think that studio guests should not be interviewed on a grubby sofa n somwhere that looks like a side room. You need some basic well designed sets and backgrounds/backdrops. The way it is it looks sloppy and (I don't really like to use the word) unprofessional.
Money from members of the public (who have already paid out a number of times already) might be more forthcoming if The Peoples Voice had a transparent agenda that was agreed upon and a discernable, usable structure (Management and otherwise) that the consumer could engage with and the employees could understand. At the moment it's like a secondary school patchwork. The Presenters look like they've just walked off the street or just got out of bed. Unshaven and sort of dingy.
The studio doesn't need vast sets or to spend bags of money to gain credibility. The message in itself isn't enough to make The Peoples Voice a success. We need to feel a positive involvment and something we can get behind and that is behind us.
I really believe that The Peoples Voice needs a good manager and a responsive but proactive team, who understand the true importance and significance of subjects like Control mechanisms, Archons, New World Order, Illuminati, MKUltra, Mind Control, False flag ops, Psyops, Covert ops, Agenda 21, Hidden systems,Child abuse, The occult, Freemasonry, and many other things.
These are just some thoughts that I've been having. I believe, though that unless many of these issues are addressed , and soon, that The People Voice will die. I hope that is not the case as many of us could benefit from a fluid, finger on the pulse, serious "The Peoples Voice" where we are not being either patronised or preached to.


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It isn't just about DI though. TPV was not, I'm sure conceived to be a DI fan club, more like a totally serious information channel - bit like RT (have you watched that?) with more diverse subjects

I think seeing experts in their field discussing similar subjects as DI regularly does gives more understanding and gravitas to the subjects
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The People's Voice 09 Mar 2014 21:25 #5509

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I'm glad that poster managed to get that crucial and sorely needed opinion onto the forum.

Sadly I don't think anybody will be listening at TPV. I expect email feedback will now be in the 100's of thousands and I do not expect anyone will be answering.
A few privileged people will have profited from this venture - but those who funded this debacle will never see anything positive out of this travesty, no matter how loud they shout.
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The People's Voice 09 Mar 2014 23:18 #5510

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Wise Haven wrote:
I'm glad that poster managed to get that crucial and sorely needed opinion onto the forum.

Sadly I don't think anybody will be listening at TPV. I expect email feedback will now be in the 100's of thousands and I do not expect anyone will be answering.
A few privileged people will have profited from this venture - but those who funded this debacle will never see anything positive out of this travesty, no matter how loud they shout.
I can see David packing it all in within the next couple of years,in fact I think he has already had his winding up notice from the elite of Great Britain PLC and Her Satanic Majestys Spooks.I think they will "Saville" him just before he liquidates his assets for a comfy retirement and he will die disgraced from a coronary on the toilet ,dressed as Wonderwoman with a tangerine stuffed up his sanctimonious arse.
Are we nearly there yet ?
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The People's Voice 09 Mar 2014 23:22 #5511

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I can see David packing it all in within the next couple of years,in fact I think he has already had his winding up notice from the elite of Great Britain PLC and Her Satanic Majestys Spooks.I think they will "Saville" him just before he liquidates his assets for a comfy retirement and he will die disgraced from a coronary on the toilet ,dressed as Wonderwoman with a tangerine stuffed up his sanctimonious arse.
Tangerine Ream?


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Hi Babs,

The WOG remark, although not considered offensive in some countries, was considered offensive to the black volunteer working for TPV. To perhaps put another perspective to this, if I walked around Brixton calling the black community wogs it is quite likely I would go home that evening with a few bruises here and there, or worse. I accept the perception in other countries is different to the UK. To support Deanna in a small way she did actually apologise for the remark at the time knowing it was something in the UK we don't approve of, but she shouldn't have said it in the first place! Anyway, the fact I was around when it was said was very likely the reason I was no longer required soon afterwards.
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I can see David packing it all in within the next couple of years,in fact I think he has already had his winding up notice from the elite of Great Britain PLC and Her Satanic Majestys Spooks.I think they will "Saville" him just before he liquidates his assets for a comfy retirement and he will die disgraced from a coronary on the toilet ,dressed as Wonderwoman with a tangerine stuffed up his sanctimonious arse.
Tangerine Ream?


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Are we nearly there yet ?
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The People's Voice 10 Mar 2014 07:59 #5514

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Atlantean2014 wrote:
Hi Babs,

The WOG remark, although not considered offensive in some countries, was considered offensive to the black volunteer working for TPV. To perhaps put another perspective to this, if I walked around Brixton calling the black community wogs it is quite likely I would go home that evening with a few bruises here and there, or worse. I accept the perception in other countries is different to the UK. To support Deanna in a small way she did actually apologise for the remark at the time knowing it was something in the UK we don't approve of, but she shouldn't have said it in the first place! Anyway, the fact I was around when it was said was very likely the reason I was no longer required soon afterwards.
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Atlantean I hear what you are saying and it's a word I never used myself being born and bred here and always felt very uncomfortable at it's use even after living in Australia as I did for 29 years. But for somebody of Deanna's age it is just everyday parlance and is said without even a second thought.

You would have to live in Australia for some time to perhaps understand this cultural difference. If the volunteer lady in question had overheard another word used in Australia that meant nothing here then she would not have been offended. If for instance Deana had mentioned somebody being a Septic that would mean nothing to her and not be offensive (Septic = septic tank = Yank = a person from the USA)

Aussies have names for all nationalities.

Including Pommy Bastards for the English. :roll:
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I quite like David icke actually. Though I see him for what he is, not because I'm special but because it's obvious.

The way I see it, is that many people (many still on DIF) believe the whole reptile shape shifter thing...

So if they want to swallow that up whilst pointing at others and calling them 'sheep' then I'm glad they've lost their money.
It was all too clearly pointed out by Alex Jones many moons ago, when he imo quite accurately exposed Icke as a con man, and made the 'turd in a punch bowl' analogy.

So all the evidence of Icke being a con man with 'way out' views of the world were clear as day, for any fucking idiot to comprehend, nothing was hidden it's as obvious as can be....

So now we have people giving money to a man who has alluded to himself as being the son of god.

He was even exposed by JV many moons ago and left an interview in a sulk.

So after all that, plain as day, fantasy con man evidence, anyone who then gave him money, (being of DIF or a truther) when they know all the details of Icke imo deserves to lose their money. (people with mental health issues and learning disabilities excluded)

''The moon is a archon transmitter/spaceship, it amplifies transmissions from Saturn, the archons have created some half reptilian/human shape shifter reptiods such as the Queen of England UK'land, they are manipulating a matrix of deceit and control humanity at the edges of their perception, the only way to stop this is if you support my internet TV station with donations.''

I mean you've got to hand it to him, If he'd had told me that, I'd have said no way David Icke, is anyone going to believe that never mind give you money.

However, given the evidence, he would have been right and I would have been wrong.

Can I suggest that the sour grapes are being used as distractions for your own mistakes.
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I believe the old shapeshifter Reptillian thing. I see them as being superimposed over the top of humans. Coming from another dimension. Now if Icke could get a shapeshifter onto tpv all his problems would be solved lol :rofl: I'm surprised that there was no investigating Reptillians special on tpv. They could of drawn up a short list of possible Reptillians in the public eye and tried to get them to shapeshift on camera. That would of bought the donations rolling in :rofl:
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Wise Haven wrote:
I'm glad that poster managed to get that crucial and sorely needed opinion onto the forum.

Sadly I don't think anybody will be listening at TPV. I expect email feedback will now be in the 100's of thousands and I do not expect anyone will be answering.
A few privileged people will have profited from this venture - but those who funded this debacle will never see anything positive out of this travesty, no matter how loud they shout.
I can see David packing it all in within the next couple of years,in fact I think he has already had his winding up notice from the elite of Great Britain PLC and Her Satanic Majestys Spooks.I think they will "Saville" him just before he liquidates his assets for a comfy retirement and he will diie disgraced from a coronary on the toilet ,dressed as Wonderwoman with a tangerine stuffed up his sanctimonious arse.

Saviled.. as in exposing David's unto now hidden crimes and misdemeanors?
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@ BT You'll find plenty of people like myself, who've never donated cash to Icke, never bought his books, and never given much credence to him at all.

That certainly doesn't mean that I'm going to refrain from calling him a charlatan, or feel unqualified to complain about his BS.

So no - your allegations there aren't justified.

Plus regarding those who've given funds and regretted it later, I think it's unfair to call them idiots, and it looks to me like you're just trying to be antagonistic.

They were sold TVP as a vehicle to air their views and, be presented with new research & coverage of topics ignored elsewhere. They were never sold on the premise of sponsoring Icke's personal claims re reptilians etc.
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@ BT You'll find plenty of people like myself, who've never donated cash to Icke, never bought his books, and never given much credence to him at all.

That certainly doesn't mean that I'm going to refrain from calling him a charlatan, or feel unqualified to complain about his BS.

So no - your allegations there aren't justified.

Plus regarding those who've given funds and regretted it later, I think it's unfair to call them idiots, and it looks to me like you're just trying to be antagonistic.

They were sold TVP as a vehicle to air their views and, be presented with new research & coverage of topics ignored elsewhere. They were never sold on the premise of sponsoring Icke's personal claims re reptilians etc.

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'They were sold TVP as a vehicle to air their views and, be presented with new research & coverage of topics ignored elsewhere''
By a person who also tells us of shape shifting reptiods, that's my point, why would anyone trust the word of someone who also speaks of shape shifting reptiods
The poof is in da pudding.

The world is full of conmen, I won't blame anyone for getting sucked into some type of con or another, but when it's being posed by 'reptiod man' it's a bit obvious, anyone with a brain would not need SZ to warn them of Icke would they?

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I think it's unfair to call them idiots, and it looks to me like you're just trying to be antagonistic.

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It's debatable whether someone who supports an idea tou find implausible should automatically be distrusted on that basis alone.

I'll let the people here who you've accused of being idiots pick it up with you if they feel like it.
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