Deanna, Elissa... and other travel visa "employees" .... obviously TPV was set to be temporary and not permanent (was meant to FAIL from the start), otherwise they would have been sorted with proper work visas, have a business plan etc. meanwhile basic staff like Icke, Sean and Co. get properly paid for doing fuck all. Shit, they even got Richie back from Spain, or was he already in the UK? Nevertheless, the guy is not fit to be a TV presenter, not to mention he's not a radio voice either, you can't get subtitles on a radio.

Space Bandit wrote:
Via Egypt dont forget

marina wrote: I distinctly remember Brian Gerrish once mentioning on his UK Column news broadcast that there was an organisation who owned a group, I think, called 'The peoples network' [or something like that] the group is known to many as COMMON PURPOSE, these are adept practiser's of NLP and if you have ever read the thread called 'Hypnosis' on Ickes forum, you will see the blatant tactics used by Icke,

http ://www. davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207637 [copy and paste, dont want to divert you unintentionally]

justoneman wrote: I first came across NLP in the mid 90's and looked at it from the therapeutic angle (benign and beneficial) and also it's application in Management/Sales form. I read several books on it and attended courses and came to the conclusion that if politicians ever got hold of this we are fucked. Now they have and we, mankind, need to be very aware of it's dangers. This is no exageration!!!

Wise Haven wrote: Yup,I've encountered it in a sales environment,I walked out of the course,refused to encompass it into my sales talk and walked from the company I worked for after a very heated debate.

Cheers for that Ian - she always struck me from the start as an 'odd fish'. And that was before I saw her excruciating anti-men 'stand up' on Youtube when she clearly is very into them (as per Ken O'Keefe on Wakey Wakey etc).

I can't believe she flew here from South America with no money just on the off-chance of a 'job'. And she was the one who almost didn't get let into the country, right? (Hmmm - David/Sean's 'insider' connections or just more 'we're under attack because we're so successful at the truth' bullshit - ?).

Seems she was set-up as 'the mole' but that plan changed at some point. I wonder if she was part of that too, and that's why the plane fare was paid (an alternative would be them realising they had to ship her off or they'd have an illegal worker presenting for them!). On the other hand she seems to find money when she needs it eh? I'm sure hash is cheap in Egypt but plane flights to Australia aren't...

So - pay-off (keep schtum and we'll send you home via Egypt), part of the 'we're under attack' plan, or just a loose cannon who doesn't want a fight with TPV to harm her future 'prospects' despite saying there are evil people at TPV - ?

(There's a bit in that interview btw where she describes an ayahuasca ceremony where a guy was screaming all night and she ended up just laughing at him. Supposedly turns out he was a Dr dealing with serious paedophile offenders, and the next night they found him, throat slit, dead in a river. Now I know a few who have lost all attachment to this life as she claims to, but she laughed all throughout that section which doesn't seem very 'enlightened' to me, or maybe it's a defence mechanism, or she just smoked way too much ganja before the interview).

The whole thing simply stinks imo.

I don't know how many know the tricks to hypnotize/pacify chickens/rabbits/fish etc - but NLP is the human equivalent. It is mind magic that has long been a goal of various shady government psychology programs.
The roots of this exploration go back almost 100 years and spawned many interpretations and experiments in many fields of human psychology whether it be for commercial, medical or political ends.
Its time to start paying attention to this stuff - Invasion of the Body Snatchers anyone?.......remember though, they only need your mind.

Wise Haven wrote: Can you give me 5 minutes advance warning next time you're about to mention "The Dark One" [G.S ] I like to be wearing my anti vampire cloak and lead lined underpants.Ta' very much.

Quality Street wrote:
Yea, but what airline?
The connecting ones in the middle east are: Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, EgyptAir. Do we know for sure it was Egypt? LOL
She could have flown Qantas, which is Australian. Most long haul flights have connections, rarely there are direct flights, usually capital city to capital city/or major city, ex London-Sydney, and those cost more. I've flown Turkish Airlines a few times, with connection in Istanbul, doesn't mean a thing where you connect in order to get to the final destination.
All speculations imo, and really irrelevant. Who cares? Most important is what went on behind closed doors at TPV's 'headquarters', and whether or not she's the mole Icke spoke about in his psychotic rants.

marina wrote:
My cheesy grin indicated a jokey statement. However she had a holiday in egypt before going back to OZ after leaving TPV & the UK.

Wise Haven wrote:
is there any way that we can share files? I have literally got 400GB of hypnosis material and research on my hard drives, but we need to start a new thread on this subject as it stands alone, as it is not TPV material but it is linked, and the only protection you can have is to know how and when it is being used, also have information on particular word definitions, most of which you are unaware EG, petitioner; one who prays! so sign a government petition and you are claiming, by your actions, that they are your GOD

justoneman wrote:
I don't, or I try not to, get into detail on any one subject any more.
All my dots are connected and have been for a while now. My main focus has been how to spread that information, succinctly, to the population, without going through the massive time intensive process I have had to conduct.
IMHO what we need now are people who can package information in such a way that it is still verifiable and documentary but does not require that vast amounts of research time that some of us have had to do. I've had to go down many blind alleys and we need to cut out that sort of information.
Your 400GB of information is a great asset. However, if every human had to go through all that to come to a conclusion we are all being physically or mentally raped......nothing is going to change. Horses for course is my philosophy.
As a community we should now be looking at ways to spread all that vital information in a way that pushes the MSM rose tinted version out of the way and presents reality. Otherwise we all doomed.

Wise Haven wrote: in a way I agree with you, but my research defines it a mind rape, I will probably start a thread in the near future in the hope it will offer members protection, hypnosis is not just mesmerisation it is day to day,
does this clip remind anybody of anybody

Personally I don't think her having a few quid for travelling makes her particularly suss. Staying in a camper van might be her way of keeping cash for travelling. Although I doubt her mam was born in 1960!

I might just invite her to the thread.