Look at all the crew they got, all that fancy tv equipment, obviously some serious money pissed away as they only broadcasted on YT which could've been done with webcams. There was no need initially to dive headlong into having such a complex setup.
What they needed was a freeview channel and much much MUCH less staff, the whole thing was just overblown far too quickly.
AJ has nothing like the kind of complex setup TPV had and he's been at it for ages and has millions. Self explanatory basically....

dantesrevival wrote:
That link just takes me to the SZ homepage

ETA: I hit submit as the penny dropped...that's what was meant to happen right?

yeh they wont filter that out will they

or use this

goo.gl/uiRZto

goo.gl this site will mask links for you

I just love clever clogs who know what they're doing!...go boys go...

Hi guys,

Found this forum after the recent TPV incident and complete shut down over at the David Icke Forum of any discussion on it. Especially after they submitted 'accounts' that create more questions than they answer.

Talk about censorship

nonfictionalentity wrote:
Welcome nonfictionalentoty!
I know you will enjoy freedom here, no points, etc
Bienvenido!

Strike 1

Welcome nonfiction, you met Dan then?

Hi Nonfictionalentity.

It does you credit to realise that, given that so many people over there are taking the figures supplied as being satisfactory.

oioioi wrote:
Dan?

Gilly wrote:
Yes, my take on them is this:

1. The figures add up to just under £280k which would account for the Indiegogo fundraiser back in May 2013 minus £20k for Indiegogo's fee which is fair enough.

2. However, this would also suggest that there was not 1 penny raised between the end of that fund raiser and the start of the new one. So in 5 months they had no donations outside of Indiegogo?

3. Why have they chosen to show outgoings and not income? One without the other is pretty worthless information.

4. Why are people being censored and ridiculed for discussing this?

I wanted to give Icke and TPV the benefit of the doubt but it's their behaviour that is making me more and more suspicious.

Essentially they want people to just donate and stop whinging. You can't have a station funded by 'the people' that is dedicated to exposing corruption and campaigning for more transparancy and accountability from the governmnet etc and expect people to just trust and let you get on with it with no accountability?

David Icke has spent the last 25 years campaigning to get people to question more and think critically and when we do we're told that we're somehow trying to bring everything down?

Why couldn't David have told Sonia "fair point regarding accountability, we will publish full accounts once a month" Then none of this would have happened?

I'm intrigued by folk finding this backwater little forum. Especially nowadys. Is this the seo thing that novum and frog put in place?

And hi entity

Well that explains a £20K anomaly!

But yes, we were wondering why they'd not mentioned the funds that have landed in their coffers since. As well as why they'd made frivolous choices regarding set up, location & equipment

The weasley conduct, however, is something that we've all experienced previously.

nonfictionalentity wrote:
Stands out like a sore thumb doesn't it.

I think DI supporters are just supposed to do a non-comply dance and not pay attention.

They haven't released accounts at all. I doubt they even keep proper accounts myself. What they released is pathetic. But. Those pathetic figures designed to placate the "idiots" do reveal enough. They show how little regard icke has for the donations and the donaters. If he had any regard for them tpv would not be trying to run a high end glitzy studio full of more tech than you could shake a stick at, in a very expensive part of london. For a start...

Does everyone in DIF know about the SZ , according to Sean this is "the forum that cannot be named="

Problem is, it has placated the idiots.

Gilly wrote:
If there is an innocent, rational explanation for everything then fair enough but it's the reaction TPV, Icke and all the supporters have had to people simply asking to see accounts that has set my alarm bells ringing.

I mean if I was running a business and I had investors who were regularly supporting me with money, and I called them stupid and a bunch of idiots for asking to see accounts every now again i'm 99% sure my investors would walk.

Yup, stands to reason, doesn't it.

The ironic thing also is that even after being accused of trying to pull the whole thing down, I still have a standing order set up to TPV.

I'm having a hard time debating whether to stop it or not as I completely believe in the cause and the need to spread information 100% but I agree with Sonia that it's seriously doubtful that the heads there are capable of running TPV properly.

I mean regardless of what you think of him, look at how much more professional Alex Jones's operation has always been? Maybe i'm better off putting my money there