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This was started in 2008, if someone wants they can add more about TPV fiasco 2014
www.infiniteloveforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1012
AN OPEN LETTER TO DAVID ICKE
I just found this over on Illusions.
Thank you, KOTM, for posting it - yes, it is still very relevant!
illusions-forum.com/phpbb3/viewt ... ?f=8&t=370
KOTM: "An Open Letter to David Icke."
by King of the Mountain on Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:53 am
A couple of years old now, but as relevant as ever. Reproduced as more of an "ode" to the conspiracy movement than a finger-wagging at Icke.
An Open Letter to David Icke: I will no longer be visiting your website
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by neomatrix
[link to noblerealms.org]
Dear Mr. Icke,
It is with deep regret that I am writing to inform you that I will no longer be visiting your website, purchasing your books, or in any other way supporting your work. A time of choice is now at hand for me, and already I have decided in which direction I will be travelling. Allow me to explain, if you will:
I have been visiting your website now for the last five years or so, and I will readily admit that the information therein served its purpose in helping to awaken my programmed, indoctrinated mind to the reality of life upon this planet. Thanks to you, the visible selfishness of my own species finally began to make sense as I realized how we are all being manipulated by a hierarchical system of control that is entirely callous and utterly inhuman.
And so, for a good many years I enjoyed filling my brain with all manner of conspiracy facts and theories. It felt good to dismiss the responsibility for my species’ rapid deconstruction of every natural ecosystem on planet Earth by passing it off onto a race of evil reptilian/alien overlords. It is their fault that we are all acting this way, you said; it is their fault that we are all endlessly fighting against one another, because that is how they maintain their control over us.
It made a lot of sense to me for a time, and as your group of ‘followers’ grew from just a few thousand worldwide a decade ago to the millions who actively support your work now, I almost begun to have hope that things around here might just change for the better. I almost thought that, because of you and others like you disseminating this kind of information, that people would finally wake up.
But who was I kidding?
I now find myself at a point where I am completely disillusioned with all of this New Age love and light bullshit, and endless conspiracy crap. The followers of the ‘Cult of Icke’, as I shall call it for want of a better name, are no more enlightened than the followers of any other religious or political belief system you care to name. They are merely sheep who have moved out of one pen and straight into another, whilst believing themselves to have been set free.
There is a difference you see, between talking the talk, and walking the walk. And I’m sorry to say it, Mr. Icke, but all I’ve seen you and your followers doing so far is a whole lot of talking. Your lips might be moving, as they often are for hours on end, but your feet are still stuck firmly to the ground.
Do you know why this has happened? You don’t? Then I’ll tell you. As much as it pains me to say it, your conspiratorial worldview has now become quite fashionably mainstream. It’s now even considered positively trendy to talk about the Illuminati, and the new world order, and the matrix, and even other dimensions of conscious experience. No longer weird and abnormal is this; it’s now become the hallmark of those who consider themselves ‘enlightened’ and ‘in the know’.
And whilst some would say that knowledge is power, I’m here to tell you that this is absolute bullshit. I’m almost sorry to say this, Mr. Icke, but knowledge – of and by itself – means absolutely fuck all: it is nothing more than an intellectual wankfest. So whilst you continue to pump out one oversized book after another, each one endlessly repeating numerous facts and figures about who engaged in what conspiracy and when, and whilst your growing and fanatically loyal readership enjoys soaking this up in the misguided belief that they are becoming more and more ‘enlightened’ with every turn of the page, you might just fail to notice that things down here aren’t actually getting any better.
The sheep are all still asleep, you see. They may now be better read, better educated, more informed sheep – but that’s all. They may be able to tell you the names of all thirteen families that compose the Illuminati; they may be able to take apart the official story of 9/11 piece-by-piece; they may even know a thing or two about quantum physics, non-locality, the Kaluza-Klein theory, and David Bohm’s holographic principle.
The problem is that no one is really demonstrating their understanding of this information in the manner that they choose to live within their daily lives. They are simply paying lip service to truths that they are not yet ready to understand and integrate; they are still living and thinking within the same old mental boxes that they did before you and your reptilians came along. It’s quite one thing to say, “this reality that I live within is an illusion,” but it’s a different thing entirely to demonstrate your understanding of this in your daily words and actions and interactions with other human beings.
You see, they are all still buying into the illusion, Mr. Icke. They are all still taking it so very, very seriously indeed. They are all still speaking out against people, events, and situations that do not conform to the expected ‘norms’ of our sickening society. They are all still playing the game by its rules. Everything is still life and death, right and wrong, good and evil, and black and white to them. They haven’t truly learned the value of allowance, of acceptance, of freedom, of uniqueness, and of experience. They are all still too busy struggling to survive and thrive; still fighting to impose petty limitations on other people and on themselves. They are all, for want of a better term, “spiritual wannabes.” Smarter perhaps, but none the wiser.
They may have listened to you, you see, but they have not yet truly understood.
Just like yourself, Mr. Icke. You are the most gifted person on this planet when it comes to talking the talk. I know, because I’ve personally seen you do it for hours upon hours on more than one occasion. But when it comes to walking the walk however, you often fall flat on your face. Take – for example – your recent e-mail to those people who, like myself, were subscribed to your newsletter, wherein you whined on and on about not getting anything in return for your efforts, then threatening to stop completely if people don’t start appreciating you quick-smart!
And yet how many times in your books and speaking events do you wax lyrical about the value of self-sacrifice; about giving without the expectation of receiving something in return? You’re sending mixed messages to your audience, you see. No wonder the poor buggers are all confused – not that I’m trying to excuse their behaviour or pass off the responsibility for their actions onto your good self. I wouldn’t do that to you, no matter how frustrated I might be.
So I’m sorry for my tone here, really I am; but I’m increasingly tired of the bullshit. I’m tired of people dabbling into materials that they are clearly not yet ready to comprehend. At least, not without a major shift in perspective. You’ve basically gone and done what Microsoft did with the computing world: you’ve taken something that is normally quite complex, that requires a modicum of intelligence and competence to understand correctly, and instead dumbed it down just enough to make it palatable and understandable to an audience that otherwise wouldn’t get it. And now we are paying witness to the inevitably similar end result.
It is for this reason that I can no longer support yourself or your work. Although you may – perhaps – have the best of intentions, your methods leave much to be desired. You’ve done much to help inform, but very little so far to help transform. It hardly matters whether or not there is a race of nasty reptilians controlling our financial, educational, political, media and healthcare systems. It isn’t the bloody reptilians that are the real problem down here – it’s us; and as long as yourself and others keep endlessly spouting on about how nasty these lizard folks are you’re simply distracting the real human beings on this planet from actually taking responsibility for themselves, and making a positive change. Knowingly or not, you’re only engaging in further promoting victim mentality, thus disempowering people even more, and keeping them locked within a false cage of self-imposed experiential limitation.
Have you actually visited your own website lately, Mr. Icke? Have you taken a look at the headlines page at all? If so, can you please explain to me why it’s consistently full of the most horrendous, doom-and-gloom world events and scenarios? Why do you place so much emphasis onto the negative news stories? And why have you reduced yourself to simply taking the piss out of President Bush at every available opportunity – of which there are many – and the occasional “See, I was right all along!”-style quips? Where’s the love gone these days? How about some inspirational, uplifting editorials? How about some hope?
So, here’s a thought for you. How about this for your next book: You don’t mention the bloody Illuminati. You don’t mention the reptilians. You don’t talk about the matrix. No history lessons about how the elite bloodlines moved from Sumeria and Egypt, into Rome, then England, and finally across to America. You don’t make so much as a passing comment about September 11th. And no more silly jokes about the stupidity of President Bush (talk about stating the obvious!) If you could instead offer something truly unique, something that has the potential to really wake people up – not just to the global fascist agenda, but to themselves and their own programmed behaviour – then I’ll be on your side once again.
Don’t get me wrong, however. I’m not trying to say that this is all your fault, or that you’re solely to blame. You’ve simply tapped into a market that was ripe for the picking, and are now no doubt cashing in on the result. But this letter, although specifically addressed to yourself, is equally directed towards those folks who actively (or inactively?) follow your work. Sure I’m frustrated with you for merely singing from the exact same song sheet for the last decade or more, but I’m perhaps more frustrated with the masses of people who now enjoy regularly exercising their grey matter on the current conspiracy-theory-of-the-day. It seems that many of them are of the opinion that – once they’ve learned to spot the mechanics of the Game on third density Earth – that they are now fully ‘awakened’ souls. They have taken a peek behind the curtains of reality, and have seen the wizard hard at work casting his spells and illusions.
But rather than taking this information and making good use of it in actively changing their worldview, and thus changing themselves and their pre-programmed points of view along with it, they seem to instead collectively enjoy sitting on their asses, watching the wizard hard at work, triumphantly shouting “a-ha!” when they once again figure out just how the wizard pulled that rabbit out of his hat. “That rabbit was up his sleeve all along! A-ha! Can’t fool me again – I’m enlightened!”
There is, you see, a link between that which we’ve labelled ‘conspiracy theory’, and that which we call ‘spirituality’. Without a shred of spiritual maturity to hold onto, they have no way of knowing how to deal with the information that is being presented to them; no way of integrating it in a meaningful way. And so instead it has simply become cool and trendy to collect every last factoid and figure, eagerly awaiting the next major world event – be it illehappy_bunnyerated wars, fucking big hurricanes hitting major cities, airplanes crashing into towers, crooked politicians getting caught with their pants down (whether figuratively or literally), etc, etc – just so that they can indulge in their now favourite pastime of Conspiracy Clue (or Cluedo, as we Brits call it.) “Hey, I got this one! It was George W. Bush, with the weapons of mass destruction, in Iraq!” “No, wait! It was the Illuminati, with the satanic rituals to Moloch, in Bohemian Grove!” “Nah, it wasn’t! It was the reptilians, with the loosh harvesting machines, in the lower astral planes!”
One can only assume the reason that conspiracy theory has become so popular in today’s society is simply because … well … it makes life here on planet Earth seem bloody interesting again. Suddenly life isn’t just about working the 9-5, then going home for tea and biscuits. Now there’s this big fat fucking conspiracy behind it all, and if you don’t figure it all out in time then the nasty, evil lizards will eat your soul! The conspiracy has become more sensational than the latest Hollywood blockbuster, and they can’t wait for each new instalment to come along. They’ve all simply become conspiracy junkies.
Please. I’ve had quite enough already. There’s nothing down here that’s a threat to you, other than the depths of your own self-imposed ignorance. And I’m not talking here about ignorance of this now overly grandiose conspiracy. I’m talking about the only ignorance that really matters: the ignorance of your true self. There can be no single question of more import to any self-aware entity than that of: who am I, really? Anything else can rapidly become a powerful distraction from this most worthwhile of pursuits. Thinking about conspiracies is easy; thinking about yourself, and periodically re-evaluating each and every one of the beliefs that you hold dear, is anything but easy.
Perhaps, Mr. Icke, you will surprise me in your next book. Perhaps, right there on page one, it’ll read something like the following: “Before you read anything contained within these pages, please close this book, go find a nice quiet place to sit down, then close your eyes and have a good hard think about yourself, about your opinions and beliefs, and about your place within the world. Because anything I have written here in these hundreds of pages is of infinitely less importance than simply making the time once in a while to do just that. You’ll get more benefit out of fifteen minutes of introspection than fifteen hours sat reading my materials. So go and do it now. What are you waiting for? Go!”
But somehow I expect I won’t be surprised, because you yourself have become one of the biggest conspiracy junkies out there. For example, your typical spoken lecture runs something like this: Conspiracy, conspiracy, Illuminati, reptilians, aliens, conspiracy, the microchip, George Bush, George Orwell, conspiracy, Tony Blair, 9/11, the Trilateral Commission, the matrix, conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, the Queen’s a shape-shifting lizard. Oh, and by the way, infinite love is the only truth and everything else is just an illusion. Thank you and goodnight!
Whoa! Hold on a second there. Could you just expand a little bit on that last segment there? You know, the bit about love, and truth, and illusion? Yeah, it seems to be implying – at least to me at any rate – that all of this crap that you’ve spent hours talking about is really just illusory nonsense. So how about we talk about this infinite love concept a little bit more then, eh? Oh, what’s that? You can’t, because you really don’t have a clue about it just yet? Your research hasn’t quite extended that far at the moment? Well then, you give me a call when you have the time to get around to it. And yes, I know that you’ve taken Ayahuasca in the Brazilian rainforests, Mr. Icke, but that hasn’t made you any more enlightened now, has it? There are no shortcuts to spiritual maturity, I’m sorry to say, magic plants or no magic plants.
Oh, hey, look on the news: some terrorists have detonated a bomb in the centre of London again. Sigh. When will we ever learn, Mr. Icke? When will we ever learn?
Mr. Icke?
Mr. Icke??
Shit, where did he go?
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a lot of us were banned purely for being members here 
Got it in one!
