I'm a single male who would love to have my own children one day, if circumstances are right, but having seen the Savile stuff for about a year and a half now am still disgusted by this 'single males can adopt stuff'. because now I know the implications and where this is coming from. It's not a case of an in-crowd at all imho - it's either seeing this on the surface or knowing what lies deeper. If you don't, please believe me you're in many ways better off not knowing...but it's up to our own individual consciences whether to start to look into this or not.
I don't blame anyone who chooses not to. The stuff I've learned gives me nightmares at night.
And, much as I would like to, just to make ONE child safe from 'the State' now that they've given me the opportunity (and I will consider it) at the same time I know that by engaging with this 'program' (which absolutely stinks to high heaven for me) I'm seen as endorsing it - and I will
never do that. So, I choose to fight it instead.
Indeed scaltura - once we know what has being on, very very sadly (it's heartbreaking) we realise we definitely cannot automatically trust men (and women - just look at some of the most prominent female MPs and TV personalities like Esther Rantzen who have been necks up to this stuff with Savile and his 'pals'!) who attach themselves to any youth clubs, schools, childrens' charities, school fetes - ANYTHING.
This mostly
all comes from above - as above so below. It trickles down (unlike the money). And they spoon off the victims at the bottom, because that then reassures the public that paedophilia is being dealt with. Occasionally we get a limited hangout when people realise what's been going on for so very long.
And
so many people have woken up to this now, it's not going back in the box until it's all aired, dealt with and resolved.
I understand your revulsion as a single male feeling 'suspected', because I'm in the very same boat, and every aspect of this is repugnant. But the answer isn't to rail against the people who are trying to show what is really going on for me, but rather to realise that now the only way things are going to change is to
help to change them.
Please understand that some of us have just come here having spent a year and a half of our lives (or more) fighting institutional (which reaches throughout society) and establishment paedophilia. Did you know about Edward Heath? One of Margaret Thatcher's closest aides Peter Morrison? How about her great friend and confidant, and also to Prince Philip, Charles and Di, Fergie (etc) Jimmy Savile (I'm sure you'll know that one)? What do you think of the late Lord McAlpine's child nude 'art' painting collection? Have you heard of Sir Anthony Blunt? I could go on and on.
I'm just saying that many of us know so much already about all this, because we've researched it and know just what we're looking at here. You seem interested, so I can only say that if you'd like to know more and genuinely hope to understand (and this extends to everybody - not only here, not 'only on the internet, but everyone) we'll absolutely work with you to share and try to bring us
all along to a deeper understanding, together
and the second last paragraph i find amusing , as , do you think i have been living on the moon for the past 3 years ?
do you think that you are the only person that knows about some of this stuff , come on , maybe you should take your head out of that thread for a while and see there are other people in the world , other than the 6 people you talk to in the saville thread
let me tell you , you have been posting in a forum called the DAVID ICKE FORUM a man who has been ridiculed for many years , and a man who nobody is going to take notice of anytime soon , but because you are posting in the jimmy thread you are fighting the institution ?
Ignore the point of the joke then. Ignore the opinion I gave on why it's not the best family setting. Ignore Refugee's point of the system being totally dangerous and purposely malevolent to a child's welfare. Argue for argument's sake. 
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]... and it had also been saying for years that the BBC had been covering up a paedophile scandal involving Jimmy Savile. [Bulllllllshit! 
Dem's war Anders and the others on the forum who t'weren't believed. ]
It's all for you, honey! 
I know.
