Fully agree with gp there. Proceed with caution.
I have to ask, how do those at the top get away with it?
Money buys power and influence. It also buys protection.
So imho the way to get them is to remove the power base that protects them.
It's no good campaigning against things if you don't take steps to hit the head of the snake, so to speak.
Ideally i say this is about our own lives and choices.
We enable this by buying into the system and maintaining it. We can all take steps to walk away from the status quo/system. We can all show everyone we meet just how corrupt the system is and how corrupt the money it relies upon is.
Please don't take this the wrong way but if i were to leaflet on any subjects now, it would involve things like fractional reserve, central banking, representational democracy and the alternatives.
We need to get rid of all of it. Imo thatt is step one.
Then we could continue to address the systems that enable these psychos to act in the vile way that they do.

This is not to say that csa is not worthy of attention. Ofc it is. But it is a symptom of the wider illness.

Gilly wrote:
bwahahahahahahahahahaha

lets get this straight I'm nobody's victim

dubmeup wrote:
Thank you with regard the thread.
Personally I feel the whole episode the other day was a misunderstanding. Feather stated himself that he got the 'gag', White Horse made an attempt to explain himself. There was no need for others to jump in, and I certainly don't think your respected member was any more badly treated than our respected member. It will take time for us to integrate, both of us need to get a feel for each other and learn to understand each others humour. Hopefully this will be achieved, but in the meantime we will keep our rucksacks packed and one eye open whilst we sleep!

unmasked wrote:
Here we have someone who is thinking and not just taking what he see's on the internet as gospel

You see the registrations , as unmasked has found out have never been registered , I just wish I was back at work now so I could check them out myself (yes I have the means of doing so).

As I have said in previous posts the are a hell of a lot of lies get printed in these things , which in turn makes any truth thats in there if there is , seem like lies also .

High five me fuk it make it high ten

Miss Behaving wrote:
He only speaks for one person

I was referring to things in this thread, miss b. Not the arrivals thread. For what its worth , i too think that one was a misunderstanding. Not what happened in this thread though.
I will be frank. Its great to have you all here but not imo at the expense of the hard work folks have put into building the place. At the moment i feel there is a tendency for some folk to treat this place as:
A- a safe place to take pops at icke
B- a place to continue the saville thread.
Neither are bad or out of order but to me it does seem to have rather over-run the place. I've lost count of how many little digs people have had at folk here now, just cos they have been questioned. I dont find that to be respectful of the hard work that gives us all this place to enjoy. But that's me. As mp just pointed out

dubmeup wrote:
As of yet, I don't believe any of us have opened a thread regarding Icke, we have just added to pre-existing Icke threads. As for the Savile thread, we make no bones about the fact that we would like to continue our work here. The understandable caution of your members and the understandable caution on our side will hopefully resolve itself in time. If not we can just stay and play, but take our CSA elsewhere. Let's settle in first and see how it goes. I haven't even put my cup in the kitchen yet!

The 'side' thing is cropping up quite a bit. I'll put my hand up and say i'm not blameless.
But as scal said earlier, it wasn't just new members that got on his case here....
Like most of us i'm sure, i've no desire for sides. Unless someone here is a virgin isles yacht dweller or a globocorp board member, i'm pretty sure we're all on the same side whether we like it or not

So. An open plea for tolerance whilst we get to know each other. Myself included

There is no "us" and "we" here.
Everyone accounts for themselves and their voiced opinions.
A 'group' defence is not necessary
Any group changes as people join it and bring their flavour(s) to the mix.

My own view regarding the paedo topic is that it is neither courageous nor research to list names or make accusations without presenting evidence.
Yet, If you are in possession of that evidence, and are serious about doing something, then present it to the police.

Ok, I already hear the tutting and shuffling as people get ready to type volumes about how so-'n-so did that and nothing happened ................
Yup. Sometimes nothing happened because it was fabricated bullshit fueled by some peoples need for attention.

"Work" on serious topics like children suffering is not done on message boards it's done by checking and cross-checking your information and sources then presenting that to someone who can further the cause.

Spill stuff too soon and the perpetrators get shot of any and all evidence leading to them and you just ensured their invincibility.

Responsible research is very welcome but I would agree with oi's comments that Sanctum Zone has never really been a 'conspiracy site' as such it tends to look for facts. From burning snow to Global banking and beyond.

Is there a way of calling you plebs without having to explain myself?

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Definitely.

I do it about once a month.

Blue_Tackler wrote:
You, who? (See, I remembered the comma).

If it's me, I'll just turn you into a frog.

Anyone else, it's perfectly acceptable.

Blue_Tackler wrote: < Stick it in your personal text.

scaltura wrote:
I have limited DVLA database access for business purposes - both regs come back for me as 'error'. Enter a real reg no. & it will provide full vehicle details, & also current status eg. on road / recorded as scrapped.

However, anyone can do a similar search by going to an insurance comparison site. The 1st question you are asked for the quote is the reg number.


I know it seems a bit daft to be picking up on car regs. But it was simply the only 'bit' of the document that I could check out.


I have suspicions about what exactly the document is, and many elements within.
It is not imho, either in it's format or wording, a counsellor's record of sessions.


I also note from the last pages where dates are recorded to show when the information was first disclosed, that the writer appeared to be meeting with the victim every 2/3 days. I am fairly sure that any fully qualified mental health professional would not meet this regularly in the circumstances that appear to be presented, part of the reasoning for this is to maintain a healthy relationship between victim and 'helper'.

Also struck me how so much information has been recorded. It must have been written down during meetings. In MH circles for many years it has been a no-no to take notes during sessions. Writing notes whilst someone is reliving trauma is not good on many levels. I mention this as abuse victims in particular are often seeking to please their counsellor as they often have warped views of boundaries. If they pick up that the counsellor seems 'happy' (eg. scribbling down info) with something they've said, like anyone or anything in life, generally we like replicate that.

I realise I say all this without really knowing who or what RAINS are, although I have heard the name mentioned across a few blogs and forums, and looked at what appears to be their parent USA website (UK contact is via phone/email in Surrey)

I've read it a couple times now, & my instinctive reaction to that document (I realise I've put 2+2 together to jump straight to 17!!) is that some of the information has been provided to the writer as a 'pleasing' exercise.

Anyone can check the status of any car/reg on the dvla website.

dubmeup wrote: I wasn't aware of that. Thought you needed additional info eg. V5 ref / vin no., not just reg. number.
I know the Askmid service will give you make & model details if you are checking your own car

ETA

Anyway. I don't know what will happen to Spivey if that blogpost gets a lot of attention.

Chances are at least 1 person out of the many named there would seek legal advice if they found out.


Also hope there's no brain dead vigilantes planning on visiting any of the addresses listed....

dubmeup wrote:
Do you mean my bottom line?

Blue_Tackler wrote: Nope

profile/edit/profile information tab/personal text
It ends up where I have "Yer Dad!" under my avatar.

unmasked wrote:
That's what the whole conspiracy scene seems to be destined towards.

The Freemasons (and all 'secret society' members) were rounded up in WW2 in Nazi Germany, and were routinely tortured and killed, along with their families.

Slightly out of context there, but I thought I'd slip that in all the same.