I had no choice but to speak up scal. I will not sit here and let that shit go unchallenged. Just wish i had seen it last night.
Seasoned or noob, its unacceptably crap. I'd like to see some sorrys said meself.
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
Being a life long pompey supporter i will say that this thread title sounds a bit wierd anorl.
It reads like you have concerns about tpvs child abuse highlights perhaps the pundits are too much like lawro? Perhaps the camera angles are shite and obscure the view of the 'game'
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
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Concerns About Child Abuse Coverage on TPV
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there are some people , i guess they have good intentions , some even call themselves team anders etc (lol) , so pish does get posted along with some damning shocking evidence , but tbh , most of the good stuff gets lost in the fog of speculating and high fiving .
i had someone recently ask me if i had ever heard of the saville case , ted heath etc and what goes on in the establishment , as if i was wet behind the ears it was so patronising that nearly made me pish myself , as he must have thought i have been on vacation to the moon for the past decade .
these are the kind of things that put people off truth sites
more lies than truth at times
This.
SZ is more than willing to provide a platform for collating information on any subject, SZ is not willing to go all Icke and speculate on who is a shape shifting baby eating lizard without some substance to the claim.
Why the hostility from some, towards some new members here who used to post on DIF's CSA related threads?
As I've previously sad, I've watched threads on here for months before joining and, loving the community spirit evident in the threads, was really looking forward to hopefully becoming a part of it.
Having finally joined however I'm very disheartened to see Troyhand and Refugee being picked on and for trifles and prior to that likewise disheartened with regards to a post made on another thread (I think) in which comments were made about recent joiners here who posted on DIF's CSA threads being shills who might try to post "naughty stuff" to get this forum into trouble.
Not very welcomimg. We've had enough of that shill shit and "high fiving" nonsence thrown at us elsewhere without seeing it start again here too.
Shame but I guess this site isn't looking like it's for me after all. I'd like to say thanks though to all those who have been welcoming and longh may this forum continue. Thanks for having me here too during my brief stay.
Like any other forum you will be questioned here. Unlike a lot of forums you'll also be granted the right to respond. If a bit of confrontation isn't your thing then SZ probably isn't for you.
As an aside - for those isolated individuals that erroneously think that the research/posting/collating of info done on threads is an end of itself - well you're entitled to your view/opinion. What you don't see is how that data and information is used Irl.
I wouldn't have printed and leafleted every door within my walking distance with 2,500+ leaflets if I hadn't have found the JS thread on DIF.
It took me weeks - walking the dog in the early hours of the morning - and I was still spotted by TPTB.'
I took soup and coats to the runaways in the local park at the same time - but I was still 'rumbled'
I have emailed and phoned and attended MP surgeries.
I don't want to go into the details about what happened to me as a consequence, as I don't know this forum.
But I DID take the information to a practical RL level.
As an aside - for those isolated individuals that erroneously think that the research/posting/collating of info done on threads is an end of itself - well you're entitled to your view/opinion. What you don't see is how that data and information is used Irl.
I wouldn't have printed and leafleted every door within my walking distance with 2,500+ leaflets if I hadn't have found the JS thread on DIF.
It took me weeks - walking the dog in the early hours of the morning - and I was still spotted by TPTB.'
I took soup and coats to the runaways in the local park at the same time - but I was still 'rumbled'
I have emailed and phoned and attended MP surgeries.
I don't want to go into the details about what happened to me as a consequence, as I don't know this forum.
But I DID take the information to a practical RL level.
Your actions are what (for me personally at least) this forum is about.
As an aside - for those isolated individuals that erroneously think that the research/posting/collating of info done on threads is an end of itself - well you're entitled to your view/opinion. What you don't see is how that data and information is used Irl.
I wouldn't have printed and leafleted every door within my walking distance with 2,500+ leaflets if I hadn't have found the JS thread on DIF.
It took me weeks - walking the dog in the early hours of the morning - and I was still spotted by TPTB.'
I took soup and coats to the runaways in the local park at the same time - but I was still 'rumbled'
I have emailed and phoned and attended MP surgeries.
I don't want to go into the details about what happened to me as a consequence, as I don't know this forum.
But I DID take the information to a practical RL level.
You're a shining example of how the information can be used.
I wasn't going to post today - felt disinclined. I sat back and watched how easy it was to mock, to take umbridge, to undermine.
It's much more of a challenge to be positive, supportive and proactive.
Sure we may never find the real story behind Savile and whom he really worked for. What was revealed was a huge sordid cesspit of institutional abuse and racketeering, perpetrated by indivduals holding senior positions across judiciary, govt,police social services, healthcare, teaching, charities, media- well the list is long.
For those ''awakened'' - who already knew about this web of connections- well what can I say? Maybe I didn't hear the information you screamed from the rooftops, see the leaflets, letters, petitions,placards. Maybe I missed those meetings, videos, conversations, activist group meetings, demonstrations? Entirely my fault, obviously, for being ''asleep''
Wrong place - wrong time? -well that's down to me then. I'll take that on the chin.
So, for those that profess to 'know it all'' - great - I applaud your wisdom. (hope you got the T shirt)
Me - I'm still learning every day - every hour, every minute and every second.
The Js thread brought together a wealth of info from many different people. It's strength was it's disparity and the multiple feeds and insights. It wasn't 'one persons version or view' . So there were tangents - blind alleys - sublime and ridiculous- but at the core the unveiling of a sick, corrupt orchestrated agenda.
In many ways that was 'the peoples voice' - and nothing to do with icke -other than his forum was the platform.
It's down to each individual how they can best make use of the information. How they apply it to their own lives, share it with those around them, influence and reshape for the better, is for each one to decide -and enact - for themselves.
My apologies if I have this wrong, but that sounds like you feel something was stifled along these threads somewhere... would you care to point me in the direction of anything inparticular?
And I'm also at a loss to where it suggests, unwritten or other, that people must agree with everything discussed in these emotive subjects or be deemed by someone such as yourself as, taking umbridge, mocking and trying to undermine?
the anorak hides the fact that sean is composed of 95% vaginas
Team Anders was a tongue in cheek term we all laughed when someone first said it. It is a bit cringeworthy but it's less cringeworthy than Diftards lol! It doesn't denote worship or wonder but it does include the name of our mate who died who by an accident of time and space galvanised opinion. He certainly wasn't the greatest poster on the internet but he was brilliant at keeping the thread on course . I miss him on a personal level he was hilarious in his pm's to me.
As for high fiving? Yep fucking right a bunch of normal people getting off their arses (I spoke to two mp's police, social workers any fucker that would listen to the specific cases I know a lot about face to face not online) doing what the establishment as a whole didn't do for 40 years. And getting further in some cases. High fiving is deserved. I worked my arse off and had nothing but a serious nervous breakdown to show for it. That's why I left the thread. It wasn't a jolly sunday crime book sitting for many of us it was a fight for our own stories to see a glimmer of justice. Scal your humour is brilliantly flippant I love your posts but bear in mind this is deeply personal for some of us Savile was the hub the de facto visible high profile kiddie fucker that many of our stories revolved around. That thread was never just about him. One member made a comment not all of us don't hold it against everyone ffs.
To the guys that have been on this site from the start I'm asking you to remember you have the best posters on that thread joining day by day not a reppie spotting diftitute in sight just the cold hard boring meat and potatoes research guys. They may well turn out to be among your greatest assets here. It's awkward for you it's awkward for us newbies too. There's no need to lable everything in the fridge ok lol!
Could it be, the reason Icke went bonkers in the first place is because he's being blackmailed, he has to create this alternative reality to create diversionary thinking.
The donation scam is to make us all think that he's broke and powerless, has no control, he's there to give the questioning people such as 'us;' a bone to chew on (no pun intended).
Could it be that Icke is being fed information about 'paedophiles' such as Savile and others, this is a threat about black mailing, if the subjects don't do what they're told to do by their black mailers, the first people contacted are the likes of Icke, not many will believe him but it lets the blackmailed individual(s) know that a leak is on the agenda.
This means Icke could be a tool, his use is to expose information that is not yet credible, if the subjects still don't obey their black mailers then go to msm.
Icke is a warning.
We'll tell the cranks = first warning.
Makes one wonder what someone has over Icke to get him to present all this nonsense about reptoids, simply to discredit himself and become the first layer of disclosure.
I guess Shrimpy is on his case, Currie is on his case, Icke, Currie and Shrimpy three blackmailed spin doctors. All keeping tight lipped, all diverting attention, Mrs Eggs, Mr Reptile and Mr cough cough, ''I know who they are but I ain't saying.''
I know that Currie used to be a presenter on Radio 5, I wonder if Icke is asking her to replace SP?
Some people seem to think that Currie could let a lot of secrets out, the question is, is she on TPV to help protect secrets rather than to disclose them?
It seems to me that by the lack of questions put to Currie TPV are scared of her, or she has censored her questions as a prior agreement to her TPV presence, so TPV are doing what Curries wants, she's not dong what they want, she's obviously appearing under conditions, Shrimpy too.
Is it just me or is there an enormous elephant in the room @TPV.
Huge amount of truth in this post as well as an elephant in the room theres the creeping suspicion of a skeleton in Icke's closet. THAT'S why so many Savile thread posters have joined here because the uncomfortable truce with dif mods and posters was overcome by the stench of rot from it's head. If any one of us started a tpv type channel the only reason to invite shrimpy and currie would be to rip them apart and feed them to the pigs. The bbc tv license funds pedophilia it's getting ever more suspicious that funding tpv is an extension of that rotten protection racket.
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The "best posters" on that thread, have treated a member here like shit for no valid reason and then one of them gets snidey on my arse when i point it out...
I guess the "know it all" comment was for my 'benefit'.
No apologies as yet that i can see.
And please dont try to claim you all joined here for any other reason than you were all being culled at the dif. You didnt even know this place existed prior to that...if sean hadn't started his cull, you'd all still be there...not here...
This place isn't the dif but threads like this increasingly remind me of it. Morphing.
I won't be sitting and watching that happen...
"laws are unenforceable if the majority break them."-humanspirit,
"avoid the concept of an ambassador for truth altogether"-gilly.
I haven't treated anyone badly have I dubs? And I've lurked at the old SZ and this one as well as many others for a long time. I go anywhere I like always have but the company here is brilliant at the moment including you so I joined. So I'll continue to wander from forum to forum but without a difmods futile protestations that I shouldn't lol! I'm not looking for fights but for peace. The newbies need to adapt of course but the old guard need to as well otherwise oi might as well close the doors and stop admitting new members. It's an interesting time lots of upheavel and change so everybody needs to chill. Things will settle eventually.
I was reticent to say anything, because the last thing I want is for the argument to escalate.
But, I'm going to say it. Scal's hardly a master of tact & diplomacy, imo. I suggest that if he wants people to address him courteously, then he needs to approach others respectfully himself, instead of being antagonistic, then playing the victim when folk bite back.
You only need to look at the split posts from the welcome thread to see a load of pointless goading, over a throwaway, light-hearted jest turned into a 5 act drama.
I don't intend perpetuating the disagreement any further, but thought it fair to comment on that for balance.
It might be more constructive too, to discuss particular points as they're raised, than get into generalisations. Just a suggestion.
Let's not let this develop into an 'us' v 'them' amongst ourselves, eh?
There's no need for it, & I'd like to see a line drawn under it.
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Like TPV threads the CSA threads on there make for depressing veiwing- suspended, banned, suspended, inactive, suspended...
The Elm thread still locked too. I have a feeling it will stay like that and, once it's slipped from first page view, even be quietly deleted.
I think you're probably right, four days on the Elm thread is still "temporarily closed for review"
Edit: Good luck with getting an honest response, tangodeltafoxtrot...
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