dubmeup wrote:
If you can get 200,000 of yer mates to sign a media hyped petition that demands all other non cake eaters get their benefits taken away, you can have as much as you want dubs

boywonder wrote:
Mmm that sounds like a big effort. I think I'll ask my step daughter tbh, she really likes baking and is exceptionally good at it

dubmeup wrote:
Probably for the best. If you'd seen the results of my yeast free, gluten free bread you certainly wouldn't feel bad about refusing a piece of my cake. I haven't got any chocolate anyway

Ab Origine wrote:
well i know your not bothered what i say and believe me i couldnt give a fuck ,
but that was a secluded side street covered by temp officers main riot group was at other end of the street were 150 police were ,
did your pall have 160 police turn up in riot gear with a helicopter and riot vans ,
you did say more police turned up for that than this instance of criminality

Try as I have mushy I can't see 150 50 in that video. It looks like about 18 split into a group of armoured and a group of regular

Clapham Junction



Lots of looting, not so many police

Ealing



Lots of looting, not so many police

Catford



Lots of looting, not so many police

Tooting



More looting, and once again................ Spot the police officer

I could go on all night if you want..... plenty of vids left over.

dubmeup wrote:
they were on next street engaged in main riot ,
what you see in itself looks like outnumbered cops but they werent outnumbered they were 160 strong and standing back

yah get me



this was what the 150 around the corner were dealing with ,
see its easy not only to play with facts but mis interpret informatioin ,
see the helicopter the cops had the lot around there and side streets like in the first video were stikll filling up with more rioters
but of course cameras dont lie

listen to the guy describe wetherspoons burn and comment about huge police pressence

8 guys in riot gear facing down hundreds of rioters ,
yep in a side street main street was at the end of that street and it was on fire police had riot vans helicopter the works and were outnumbered .


heres what the police were protecting and they had to stop rioters in many side streets

I didn't see a single 50 in that last but one vid mushy

A helicopter? Yes. 150 50? No

In your last vid, firstly he says "there's a huge massive police presence, they've pretty much looted all the shops locally". My question is why were the 50 out looting when they should have been working?

Secondly, later in the vid he says something like "they'll have to send in the riot police at some point". This would appear to be a comment made well after all the damage/looting had taken place.

And again, I see no 50

EDIT: mushy added another vid to the preceding post after I wrote this. For clarity, the fire engine vid wasn't there when this post was made

dubmeup wrote:
www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/5live/2011/08/woolwich.shtm

the main riot was on the high street

404 code You is takin the mick innit

There were thousands of cops at G20.
Armies of plods lol.

Nothing like that during the riots.

andyh wrote:
But andy, that was important stuff. Everybody know that

andyh wrote:
those figures are available somewhere surely i will go check i think london had 16,000 extra police on duty for night 4
g20 was different in many ways it covered a smaller area and the violence was much less ,
interestingly a quick search for police figures turned up nothing for g20
another good point is that during g20 police had time to prepare both barricades and strategies during the riots they had to adapt on the spot and couldnt pull in the reserves seen at g20 in such a small time with threat of exposing other areas .

psketti wrote:
ahh now one thing barely mentioned in reports is the way police were taken to form a redoubt around london centre and high priority areas in the capital (a natural course of action in these circumstances )
portant fings furst

mushy wrote:
They had plenty time to prepare?

So... nothing to do with the fact that G20 consists of all the major cunts that pull all the strings then?

psketti wrote: that was the initial reason for huge police protection ,
but prepared for it was months in advance you can bet your last penny on that ,
and like i said during riots police were deployed around important areas in central london to deter rioters away those police couldve been on the front line elsewhere ?

mushy wrote:
Yes, where the riots actually were!

"Officers, come quick, there's a riot down the road!"
"We're protecting this area"
"But there's no riot here"
"See, effective policing...now move along please, nothing to see here."

The only thing they where protecting was the money.

mushy wrote:
There's no need for that mushy. Am I not allowed to have a different opinion to you?