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TOPIC: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism.

Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 00:20 #21

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I'm in agreement with you I think it's all a big psy-op's to get people in the truth movement interested in WW3 it's kind of like stealing their energy just because there are 2.2 billion people thinking about this that doesn't mean they'll get it coz there are another 4.8 billion not thinking about it.

So... why are we talking about it dude?


Let's move on to more pressing matters -> has anyone seen this, is rather disturbing, and could possibly mean millions of computers around the world will spontaneously combust in sheer desperation:
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 00:40 #22

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The reason boy­won­der is to show that Zionism isn't just a jewish ideology. 99% of people who use the term Zionism only think of it as Jewish Zionism or as the case with Icke Rothschild Zionism :ripped: :seanypat which instantly equates to Jewish Zionism in 99% of peoples minds.
There are more Christian Zionist than there are Jewish Zionist.

I think ALL Abrahamtic religions are designed as divide and conquer, Still I respect peoples right to believe in them.

Each to their own.
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 00:49 #23

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G'day Boots.

Thank you for posting that video mate. :thumbup:

Here's the trailer for another documentary that charts the rise of the evangelical right in America ...



Thanks for that IAAIA sounds like an interesting Doco.and show how easily people can be led.
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:16 #24

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Boots wrote:

Thanks for that IAAIA sounds like an interesting Doco.and show how easily people can be led.

Yes it does.
There are more Chris­t­ian Zion­ist than there are Jew­ish Zion­ist

I was unaware of this until this evening.
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:24 #25

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Most of us in the so called 'truth' movement should be smart enough to know that Judaism and 99% of Jews have absolutely naff all to do with Zionism and the elite that run this planet. If you had a friend that had spent 10 years trying to fix a beaten up old Ford Cortina, and he'd consistently failed every time, would you not tell him to put the toolbox away and try fly fishing or mixed martial arts?

Anyways, I did try to take your mind off it, it's obviously time to bring out the big guns:



If that doesn't get the Chinese pointing their nukes at us I give up!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:27 #26

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh no you didn't :spliff:
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:39 #27

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psketti wrote:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh no you didn't :spliff:



Ohhhhh yes :D :D :D

If the Chinese press the button on us now it'll be good ol Rick they try to destroy.....

:D :D :D

I can see the headlines now, it'll be like watching saddam pulled out of his hole in the ground, except it'll be in grand gingervision!!!
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:39 #28

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Boots wrote:
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G'day Boots.

Thank you for posting that video mate. :thumbup:

Here's the trailer for another documentary that charts the rise of the evangelical right in America ...

Thanks for that IAAIA sounds like an interesting Doco.and show how easily people can be led.

G'day Boots.

No worries mate. :thumbup:

Have you seen Jesus Camp ? :O :O :O :O :O :O :O


Trailer:



Full Documentary:
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:44 #29

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Jesus, camp?

My word, that's outrageous.

On the other hand it's a bloody good cue for a tune

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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 01:56 #30

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psketti wrote:
Boots wrote:

Thanks for that IAAIA sounds like an interesting Doco.and show how easily people can be led.

Yes it does.
There are more Chris­t­ian Zion­ist than there are Jew­ish Zion­ist

I was unaware of this until this evening.
Falwell spoke for a large number of Christian Zionists in the U.S., Christians who believe that the modern state of Israel is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy and so deserves unconditional political, financial and religious support. Christian Zionists work closely with religious and secular Jewish Zionist organizations and the Israeli government, particularly during periods when the more conservative Likud Party is in control of the Israeli Knesset (parliament). Though Falwell claims to be speaking for over 100 million Americans, the number is actually closer to 25 million.

Mainstream evangelicals number between 75 and 100 million; fundamentalist and dispensationalist evangelicals, whom Falwell represents, between 20 and 25 million.

www.christianzionism.org/Article/Wagner01.asp
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 02:01 #31

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I AM ALL I AM wrote:
G'day Boots.

No worries mate. :thumbup:

Have you seen Jesus Camp ? :O :O :O :O :O :O :O


Trailer:



Full Documentary:

G'day IAAIA,

Seen that on TV awhile ago.

Talk about fucked up :villagers:
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 02:15 #32

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G'day Boots.

No worries mate. :thumbup:

Have you seen Jesus Camp ? :O :O :O :O :O :O :O

G'day IAAIA,

Seen that on TV awhile ago.

Talk about fucked up :villagers:

G'day Boots.

Yeah, it is totally fucked up ... but hey, that's religion for you, it's worse than a frontal lobotomy.
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 10:22 #33

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https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/15268-zionism


Until someone can prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Zionism and the elite are 100% hand in hand, all we can go on are the actions and words of those we see before us. My best Russian source (with indirect KGB and FSB connections) told me that in the 90's the KGB estimated the Rothschild family was worth somewhere in the region of $16 trillion. Best estimates put total world wealth at around $50 trillion. Others put it as high as $120 trillion. Whatever the actual figure really is, I think it's pretty safe to say that the Rothschild's have a truck load of wealth, power and influence. The fact that the country with possibly the largest annual military expenditure ever seen on this planet would not even dare to question Israel's unjust war on Palestinian men, women and children, tells us that the influence of the Rothschild's and others is massive. Not to mention that the Rothschild's own at least 25% of the US economy anyway. The only connection you might hope to find between the current British royal family and the Rothschild's is that they all originate from the same region of Germany. As many of us know, BOEN Ltd was setup to hide the vast majority of Lizzie's wealth ( https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_or_private ). My point is, trying to pin down everything to Zionism is as futile as spending ten years debating 9/11. For me, the bigger picture is pretty simple; There are highly coordinated efforts being made to depopulate the planet. Poisonous food, vaccines, fluoride in water, psychological media brainwashing, all manner of other nasties that mess with human reproduction and finally total financial control.

These are not 'End Times', they are slow concerted depopulation times. Zionists might well be planning to bomb the fuck out of their neighbours throughout the middle east. That alone will never constitute WW3. There has been constant conflict in the region for the last fifty odd years. Why all of a sudden now should it escalate into a global conflict?

'The REAL truth behind Zionism' is quite clearly laid out in the Jewish encyclopaedia (linked above).

If this thread had an appropriate heading, ie 'Zionists might bomb Iran', It would barely warrant a second look.

I appreciate your earlier points mister boots, not trying to be an arse. I shall stick my nose into any thread that mentions Zionism or WW3 with the veracity of twelve Buddhist monks, until the power runs out :D :D

Anyways...... that's my 2 deutsche marks and 3 french francs worth for now. :D :D :D
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 10:55 #34

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w00t! Tiff r0x!!
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 10:57 #35

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that's religion for you, it's worse than a frontal lobotomy.[/b][/color]

Fucken A!
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 21:33 #36

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Rev. Falwell's Moral Majority: How it changed politics and religion

By Patricia Zapor
Catholic News Service

WASHINGTON (CNS) -- For many activists in the 1980s-era Moral Majority, there's no doubt that the religiously based, politically conservative organization changed politics and religion for the better.

The election of President Ronald Reagan and a cadre of socially conservative members of Congress in the 1980s changed the direction of politics -- particularly by rebuilding the Republican Party -- and gave evangelical Christians a voice in elections and in public policy that continues to be strong. It also brought together evangelicals and Catholics in an alliance that raised the pro-life voting public to a position of prominence and power that it had not enjoyed as a primarily Catholic movement.

But for some of the Catholics who had key roles in the movement most closely associated with the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, hindsight suggests the Moral Majority's call to get evangelical Christians involved in politics worked out better for the politicians than it did for the church.

Rev. Falwell died May 15, a bit shy of 30 years after the Moral Majority brought the minister from the "Old Time Gospel Hour" in Lynchburg, Va., to the halls of Congress and the White House as a valued adviser.

When Paul Weyrich met Rev. Falwell in the late 1970s, he was a former reporter and congressional press secretary who had helped create the Heritage Foundation, a think tank, and other conservative political organizations. It was Weyrich who coined the phrase "the Moral Majority" that Rev. Falwell would choose for the faith-based political organization with which the Baptist minister was most closely associated.

Weyrich, a deacon in the Melkite Catholic Church, told Catholic News Service that one success of the Moral Majority was the change it fostered in how Catholics and evangelical Protestants worked with each other.

He recalled an event at an arena in Texas to support a minister who had been booted off his radio station because of preaching against homosexuality. Rev. Falwell introduced Weyrich by pointing out that "he's a Catholic," and adding, "if any of you want to leave, go ahead."

Perhaps five people stood up among the thousands in the arena. Weyrich said he saw that as "a change in the atmosphere from the time where Catholics and evangelical Protestants almost could not be in the same room with each other."

Another time Weyrich and Rev. Falwell were on a speaker's platform together when the minister observed that politics made the pairing possible.

"He said, 'If you and I were discussing theology we'd probably come to bloody blows,'" Weyrich recalled. "But we were not; we were discussing politics and so we were blood brothers."

Richard Viguerie is another Catholic who was a part of the Moral Majority at the beginning. Currently the president of ConservativeHQ.com and the author of several books on politics and the conservative movement, Viguerie has since the 1960s owned direct-mail companies that specialize in political fundraising.

He said Rev. Falwell always was ecumenical, working with Mormons, Catholics and Jews as well as the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the Unification Church, sometimes to harsh criticism from other evangelicals. That church is now known as the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification.

But the Moral Majority was not always on the side of the leaders of the Catholic Church, Viguerie said, especially on hot 1980s issues such as U.S. policy toward Central America, the civil rights act and government programs to aid the poor. But, then, neither were politically conservative Catholics like himself.

"Jerry was always on the same side as the conservative Catholics," Viguerie said.

He said that at his parish in Rappahannock County, Va., "when I would tell people that Jerry Falwell was a friend, they thought that was the coolest thing."

Viguerie said Rev. Falwell believed that "we have to establish priorities, to fight our common enemies -- communism, big government, liberals -- then when that fight is won we can disagree about theology."

Another Catholic, Deacon Keith Fournier of Richmond, Va., came to know Rev. Falwell because their circles of activities overlapped. Though never directly involved in the Moral Majority, he was in contact with Rev. Falwell in his one-time role as director of the American Center for Law and Justice, a religious liberty law practice founded by another television evangelist, the Rev. Pat Robertson.

Deacon Fournier has written several books, including "Evangelical Catholics."

Once a regular speaker at Moral Majority events who continues to admire much of what Rev. Falwell accomplished, Deacon Fournier has come to conclude that the religious right failed to live up to its promise, ending up "politically conservative, Republican and ... mostly an evangelical Protestant movement," as he wrote in an article published on the Traditional Catholic Reflections Web site, www.tcrnews2.com.

He told CNS that when it came to Catholic social teaching the Moral Majority only got part of the picture, primarily the one dealing with championing the right to life at all stages.

Deacon Fournier believes the breadth of Catholic social teaching -- particularly the call to support the needy -- was lost in the religious right, perhaps out of concern for political expediency.

Weyrich said when it comes to the advantages gained by tying itself to one party the alliance between evangelical Christians and the Republican Party has "probably helped the party. I don't think it has helped the faith."

He acknowledged a bit of personal disappointment at some directions taken by the movement he helped start.

"On occasion, Falwell and others would withhold a Christian position in order to accommodate a political position," he said.

John Carr, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' secretary for social development and world peace, has sometimes worked hand in hand and sometimes on opposite sides with the Moral Majority and the religious right since his days as director of the White House Conference on Families in 1979-80.

He lauded Rev. Falwell's ability to persuade a generation of evangelical Christians that their faith had public implications, particularly bringing their conviction to the pro-life arena at a time when it was almost exclusively a Catholic movement.

But, Carr said, as an evangelical acquaintance put it, the movement learned the hard way that "identifying with one party on one issue has political and spiritual costs."

END

www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0702860.htm
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 30 Jun 2012 22:20 #37

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'The REAL truth behind Zionism' is quite clearly laid out in the Jewish encyclopaedia (linked above).

Thats Judaism side of the story.

Do you understand what this thread is all about ?

Can you tell me what role Zionism has in the religious ideology of current event's?
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 01 Jul 2012 15:08 #38

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Boots wrote:
boywonder wrote:
'The REAL truth behind Zionism' is quite clearly laid out in the Jewish encyclopaedia (linked above).

Thats Judaism side of the story.

Do you understand what this thread is all about ?

Can you tell me what role Zionism has in the religious ideology of current event's?


Copy / paste / copy / paste.

Can I tell you what this thread is about..... ?
Once again, let's look at the title of this thread.
1. Zionism role in WW3, end times.

First of all, WW3, has not and more than likely will not happen. How can we talk about Zionism's apparent role in something that has not happened? Let's put this into perspective. How about I start a thread called 'John Doe's role in catapulting dead animals over a fence'. John Doe had never been near a dead animal. And furthermore he does not own a catapult. He has got some neighbours that he does not like, but as yet any evidence that he has some kind of hidden vendetta is pure conjecture.

2. The REAL truth behind Zionism.

As yet I have seen no logical arguments that reveal some kind of revelation regarding Zionism in this thread.

Religious ideology is just one of many varieties and flavours of controlling humans.

Let me ask you a question Mr Boots. What are you trying to achieve with this thread? What are the aims and objectives?


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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 01 Jul 2012 15:19 #39

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As yet I have seen no logical arguments that reveal some kind of revelation regarding Zionism in this thread.

Religious ideology is just one of many varieties and flavours of controlling humans.

Let me ask you a question Mr Boots. What are you trying to achieve with this thread? What are the aims and objectives?

Pretty obvious imho!
That zionism is actually an anglo-american project, it is about the creation of a nation state that has been used to control the middle east by proxy.
The manipulation is hidden by religion which ofc has always worked in tandem with the authority of monarchy/govt and maintained through time via the use of the corporation sole entity.

The original definition of zionism was simply a movement to create a nation state for the jews, this has already happened so todays definition has to obviously be quite different.

As for the jewish people, they are simply followers of a religion, there is no 'jewish race'. Its horseshit.
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Re: Zionism role in WW 3, End Times. The REAL truth behind Zionism. 01 Jul 2012 16:08 #40

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As for the jewish people, they are simply followers of a religion, there is no 'jewish race'. Its horseshit.
:thumbup:

It just seems to me that 'Zionism' is like the elastoplast of the truthy movement. You pretty much stick it on anything.

I guess you could pin my twitchyness about these types of threads down to the hundreds of similar ones I've seen not just on DIF, but all over the internets. Eventually someone will try to innocently point out something, like for example that a rather large number of the world's richest people subscribe to the Jewish faith. As soon as that happens, quicker than you can say 'ADL lawsuit' someone cries "Oi you lot are Nazis init!!", and then the whole thread degenerates into a pathetic powwow of insults and nonsense.
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