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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 03:34 #41

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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 08:46 #42

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humanspirit wrote:
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Actually I share a lot in common with their views but not everything.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

^Thats closer to it.
So your a rothschild helper. :killinme: rothschild funded marxist and his communism

Would it make sense for a billionaire to fund Marxists and communists?
Sounds silly.

Actually, yes :)

Marx was hardcore authoritarian, he gave rise to socialism.
There's no evidence for sure who actually funded him but the rothschilds were pissed with the czars at the time and authoritarian socialism was used to quash the anarchists rebellion as per my link in the other post.
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:24 #43

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andyh wrote:
gremlin wrote:
andyh wrote:
gremlin wrote:
Actually I share a lot in common with their views but not everything.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

^Thats closer to it.
So your a rothschild helper. :killinme: rothschild funded marxist and his communism

Marx was the enemy of bakunin who was an anarcho-syndicalist gremlin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_and_Marxism

Do try to keep up....sigh.

Upon his return to Russia, he settled down on his paternal estate where at the age of forty, he married an eighteen-year-old girl from the prominent Muraviev family. Given to liberal ideas

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

What a dirty GIT. Liberal ideas,

In 1844 Bakunin went to Paris, then a centre of the European political current. He established contacts with Karl Marx and the anarchist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, who greatly impressed him.
Bakunin renewed his contacts with revolutionary Poles and Karl Marx.

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While both social anarchists and Marxists share the same final goal, the creation of a free, egalitarian society without social classes and government, they strongly disagree on how to achieve this goal. Anarchists believe that the classless, stateless society should be established by the direct action of the masses, culminating in social revolution, and refuse any intermediate stage such as the dictatorship of the proletariat, on the basis that such a dictatorship will become a self-perpetuating fundament. For Bakunin, the fundamental contradiction is that for the Marxists, "anarchism or freedom is the aim, while the state and dictatorship is the means, and so, in order to free the masses, they have first to be enslaved."

Bakunin is remembered as a major figure in the history of anarchism and an opponent of Marxism, especially of Marx's idea of dictatorship of the proletariat. He continues to be an influence on modern-day anarchists, such as Noam Chomsky.

He's a dick
this is the only good bit
Anti-semitism

Bakunin was an outspoken anti-semite and has been severely criticized for this part of his writing.[49] Bakunin used anti-Jewish sentiments during his argument with Karl Marx; he claimed that Marxian communism, along with international banking cartels associated with Rothschild, was part of Jewish system of global exploitation;
“ This whole Jewish world, comprising a single exploiting sect, a kind of blood sucking people, a kind of organic destructive collective parasite, going beyond not only the frontiers of states, but of political opinion, this world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other... This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralisation of the state. And where there is centralisation of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, speculating with the Labour of the people, will be found.[50][51] ”

He has also commented that:
“ Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are everywhere -- commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it .... Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, closely and intimately connected with another, regardless not only of frontiers but of political differences as well -- this Jewish world is today largely at the disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand, Marx feels an instinctive inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem strange. What could there be in common between communism and high finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state centralization, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish nation -- which speculates upon the labor of people -- will always find the means for its existence .... In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack-regime, under which the workingmen and the workingwomen, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work, and live at the beat of the drum. The privilege of ruling would be in the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the national banks.

Nationalism

Bakunin stated:

"I feel myself always the patriot of all oppressed fatherlands. . . Nationality. . . is a historic, local fact which, like all real and harmless facts, has the right to claim general acceptance. . . Every people, like every person, is involuntarily that which it is and therefore has a right to be itself. . . Nationality is not a principle; it is a legitimate fact, just as individuality is. Every nationality, great or small, has the incontestable right to be itself, to live according to its own nature. This right is simply the corollary of the general principal of freedom." -Bukunin [quoted by Alfredo M. Bonanno in Anarchism and the National Liberation Struggle, pp. 19-20]

You pick and choose what you like about this guy don't you. But in your eyes you think people like the BNP are racist's. You lot are very confused.
He has some good points and some bad points.

YOU CHANGE THE PEOPLE OF COUNTRY YOU CHANGE THE COUNTRY. ENGLAND, YES IS A COUNTRY THAT THE REPTILES, ROTHSCHILDS WANT TO CHANGE AND IS USING MULTICULTURALISM TO CHANGE IT. I agree with Bakunin and with his nationality views. ;)
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:29 #44

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andyh wrote:
humanspirit wrote:
gremlin wrote:
andyh wrote:
gremlin wrote:
Actually I share a lot in common with their views but not everything.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

^Thats closer to it.
So your a rothschild helper. :killinme: rothschild funded marxist and his communism

Would it make sense for a billionaire to fund Marxists and communists?
Sounds silly.

Actually, yes :)

Marx was hardcore authoritarian, he gave rise to socialism.
There's no evidence for sure who actually funded him but the rothschilds were pissed with the czars at the time and authoritarian socialism was used to quash the anarchists rebellion as per my link in the other post.

Bolshieviks? carl marx was almost probably a ashkennazi jew. If you look at this world now the rothschilds or even the reptiles use both capitalism and marxism to to control human behaviour. Keep 2 sides fighting and use that energy for it's means. Now imagine a capitalist/marxist working together. NEW WORLD ORDER
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:34 #45

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You mean you 'just' agree with bakunin's xenophobia ;)

Good to see you're learning something anyway! The spanish civil war which orwell visited was backed by the same russian govt that tookover after marx and stamped out anarchism there too.
There is indeed some evidence that if not the rothschilds then at least schiff was behind the funding.

What I find strange is your support for authority grem when authority is precisely what rothschild and co succeeding in maintaining.
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:38 #46

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Bolshieviks? carl marx was almost probably a ashkennazi jew. If you look at this world now the rothschilds or even the reptiles use both capitalism and marxism to to control human behaviour. Keep 2 sides fighting and use that energy for it's means. Now imagine a capitalist/marxist working together. NEW WORLD ORDER

You've had a marxist govt running the UK for ages in case you hadn't noticed. Also both russia and china are now ridiculously capitalist, its hilarious...

The only thing thats new about the NWO is technological assist of authority.
Eg 100% digital money, RFID etc.
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:46 #47

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Bolshieviks? carl marx was almost probably a ashkennazi jew. If you look at this world now the rothschilds or even the reptiles use both capitalism and marxism to to control human behaviour. Keep 2 sides fighting and use that energy for it's means. Now imagine a capitalist/marxist working together. NEW WORLD ORDER

You've had a marxist govt running the UK for ages in case you hadn't noticed. Also both russia and china are now ridiculously capitalist, its hilarious...

The only thing thats new about the NWO is technological assist of authority.
Eg 100% digital money, RFID etc.

Tell me about it, marxist rothschild zionist controlled.
The only thing thats new about the NWO is technological assist of authority.
Eg 100% digital money, RFID etc.


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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:47 #48

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Gremlin doesn't even know the meaning of Zionism, how can you have a discussion with someone who doesn't understand the concept of Zionism in the first place.

The only thing people like Gremlin know is what someone else has told them and if it's told by a Neo Nazi then all the better cause it's bashing Jews.

There are two factions within the Rothschilds family gremlin which one supported the state of Israel and which one didn't?

This isn't a very hard question cause you bang on about rothschilds so you should know all about them?
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:56 #49

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You mean you 'just' agree with bakunin's xenophobia ;)

Good to see you're learning something anyway! The spanish civil war which orwell visited was backed by the same russian govt that tookover after marx and stamped out anarchism there too.
There is indeed some evidence that if not the rothschilds then at least schiff was behind the funding.

What I find strange is your support for authority grem when authority is precisely what rothschild and co succeeding in maintaining.

I have no support for anything and especially anarchy even after reading about this bakunin. It's a complete mess and I quote from terrence mckenna, 'the dominant ones have led the human race into a blond alley'.

Nationalism, at it's core celebrates diversity. multiiculturalism is destroying nationailsm.
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:57 #50

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What a dirty GIT. Liberal ideas,
Could you qualify why having a relationship with an 18 year old makes one a "dirty GIT" please?
He's a dick

Again, could you qualify that opinion please?
Anti-semitism
From reading the sections you've quoted it would seem that this Bakunin chap was guilty of a classic logical fallacy. As in some Jews are bankers therefore ALL Jews are. Poor thinking on his part tut. I can see why you agree with him though.
Nationalism
Bakunin stated:
"I feel myself always the patriot of all oppressed fatherlands. . . Nationality. . . is a historic, local fact which, like all real and harmless facts, has the right to claim general acceptance. . . Every people, like every person, is involuntarily that which it is and therefore has a right to be itself. . . Nationality is not a principle; it is a legitimate fact,

I can see why you agree with this. I must point out though that it is another example of poor thought on his part. Rather un-informed poor thought too.
You lot are very confused.

Ahhhhh, our old friend, the sweeping generalization.
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 09:58 #51

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Gremlin doesn't even know the meaning of Zionism, how can you have a discussion with someone who doesn't understand the concept of Zionism in the first place.

The only thing people like Gremlin know is what someone else has told them and if it's told by a Neo Nazi then all the better cause it's bashing Jews.

There are two factions within the Rothschilds family gremlin which one supported the state of Israel and which one didn't?

This isn't a very hard question cause you bang on about rothschilds so you should know all about them?

The hatred in your post is just comparable to evil. :couch:
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 10:01 #52

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Ok Grem, for arguments sake, the jews control the media...now what?
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 10:19 #53

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gremlin wrote:
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You mean you 'just' agree with bakunin's xenophobia ;)

Good to see you're learning something anyway! The spanish civil war which orwell visited was backed by the same russian govt that tookover after marx and stamped out anarchism there too.
There is indeed some evidence that if not the rothschilds then at least schiff was behind the funding.

What I find strange is your support for authority grem when authority is precisely what rothschild and co succeeding in maintaining.

I have no support for anything and especially anarchy even after reading about this bakunin. It's a complete mess and I quote from terrence mckenna, 'the dominant ones have led the human race into a blond alley'.

Nationalism, at it's core celebrates diversity. multiiculturalism is destroying nationailsm.

You come across as confused grem.
McKenna is correct to state that humanity has been LED. Thats what AUTHORITY is all about right?
Anarchism is the rejection of all authority outside of oneself. It is about individual responsibility, because it rejects authority it rejects everything that comes with it no matter if it 'seems' to be nice or nasty.
Anarchism rejects not just the welfare state but ALL of the state and its machinations and institutions.
Anarchism sees the solution to immigration which bothers you so much to be to simply let go of such things as welfare and borders and let people do what they do naturally which is to survive and thrive in their natural local environment.
For example...why would people emigrate if things were good at home? Why does money seem to move from one place to another? Why are resource rich countries so poor? It is obvious that it is a fix. The markets are manipulated by authority, not only are the markets manipulated but the money itself is manipulated and the evidence for this is ridiculously in your face now.

It is AUTHORITY which has created everything you see today, money, borders, flags, religion, etc etc the whole shebang.
It is an artificial creation to enslave the mind. It is there to create an artificial reality that is nice and comfortable for the elite and to keep the proles arguing with each other over pointless topics...such as immigration lol :p
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 11:22 #54

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Ok Grem, for arguments sake, the jews control the media...now what?

I come round make a cup of tea. :)
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 11:24 #55

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Anar­chism is the rejec­tion of all author­ity out­side of one­self.

To use a term from oioioi then what?
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 11:37 #57

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gremlin wrote:
Anar­chism is the rejec­tion of all author­ity out­side of one­self.

To use a term from oioioi then what?

Then all our 'problems' disappear grem.
Its as simple as that.

If there's no-one enforcing stupid rules that have to be adjusted all the damn time to suit various interests then its all gone isn't it?
Like a bad tooth.

If you support authority then you support the rothschilds, its that simple in my book.
The BNP, EDL, KKK and anything else you could care to shake a stick at including the tories, labour, lib dem...all of it is supporting the divide and conquer agenda.

The Swiss have the best model thus far, it doesn't go anywhere near far enough imho but they are light years ahead of the other countries. They have people power and small govt, they soon sorted the problem with mosques didn't they?
No EDL or BNP required...just 100,000 signature petition et voila...PWNED!.
If they ever tried to instil a govt like the UK or US on the Swiss they'd shoot the bastards, its that simple ;)
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Re: jews do control the media 09 Jul 2012 11:38 #58

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gremlin wrote:
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Ok Grem, for arguments sake, the jews control the media...now what?

I come round make a cup of tea. :)

Wonderful.

Can we lock this now then?
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I want to live in Switzerland :D

www.stephenhalbrook.com/articles/swiss_teen_rifle_festival.html

Theres 13 and 14yr old kids there who can shoot an AR9 with iron sights at a bullseye 300 metres away ffs lol.

They are educated and they respect weaponry, they KNOW what it represents and will NEVER give up the right to bear arms.
If you want freedom then you MUST be willing to kill or be killed for it. There's too many pussies imho which is why we get screwed over.
Politicians are AFRAID of the people in Switzerland, this is the way it ought to be.
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